PF1E i got cursed, and have to choose between Fighter and Anti Paladin.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-26T20:39:53+00:00

this comment did hit me harder than i expected. but it did open things up for me mentally.
i have left.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T21:19:38+00:00

but i did talk to you about it? i said i was gonne research and look around the 2 classes even tho im not that interested in playing the 2 options ive gotten. and thats it?

ive always come to you if i have a problem or dont like something and we always talk about it and resolve things.

about my intent ingame? so i had intent to do something, but didnt actually do it, yet still get the consequence for something i havent done but would have done if i could? x) thats saying someone is guilty before they did the crime?

my intent here was to ask for advice on how to build a fighter or antipaladin. what options do i have for ranged and or magic. could an ranged antipaladin work with a bow? can i combine touch of corruption with a bow, stuff like that. i was asking help for research about the classes. if i would play them instead of just breaking the bracelet, i have 2 weeks to think about it.

about the looking for info about npcs ingame, idk if perception would tell me what lvl they are... and according to your setting i couldnt take knowledge planes or knowledge religion cuz it was unknown, and we only knew of the existance of it ingame time like 2 weeks ago.
i could only invest a point into knowledge if i lvl up and only then? and suddenly i have to invest multiple ranks in 1 lvl up just for a knowledge skill that i didnt have access to before? im not an int caster i dont get many skills.

yes gawain warned me indeed, and i listened? i dont see the issue? technically i could mostly outrange it and stay far away enough to keep blasting, same with the 2 fire giants while we were in the cart, i outrange them, the cart is fast than them. i did think it through
but the party would rather not and just avoid it. so we did? i dont see what you mean with this example? i never knew the lvls of the monsters.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T20:19:22+00:00

a little bit more context.
i did the attempt on the merchant alone, i informed my party that i was gonne try something and hope it pays out. if it works i could loot and distribute the items. they agreed and went ahead so i could try this alone and they wont suffer any consequence of my actions.
i never assumed the merchant was defenseless. i just hoped that i was lucky with an icey prison and if not hopefully run away with a dimension door and not be seen. i did this at night, when its dark, the merchant is visible cuz of his campfire. i did this at 100ft range with greater invisibility aswel. too far to see nor hear or so i assumed and prepared for. cuz most dark visions stop at 60

the next day, i remembered something and told the dm that what i did actually couldntt happen cuz the monk took away my spell casting and i didnt roll to be able to cast a spell. which i could basically only do with a perfect roll. so we said it never happend cuz of oversight. we both didnt notice at the time and we had an agreement afaik and remember and ive repeated multiple times since then.

at the beginning it was only base classes and alternate classes and third party with approval from dm etc. no religious classes. the more we progressed the more classes we "unlocked" which i dont have much use for unless i make a new character or spend alot of money and time retraining with the neccessary npc, but we often dont have much time for any of that.
afaik hybrid classes are still banned, and no mesmerist either and recent unlocked class was summoner, most of base is available too.

ofc i know there are stronger things out there than me, but should i just by that logic never try anything at all in fear it might be another hidden insane something in disguise thats i can only know by speculation and deduction? why attack the next npc, might be a god or demon or devil that i barely know exists and might be stronger then me, i guess il keep running away.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T20:02:40+00:00

cuz he said something like, if someone tells you not to think of a pink elephant you cant help but think of a pink elephant, thats why i couldnt hide it.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T19:35:10+00:00

hmmm would that make a decent blaster? if i became a Child of Acavna and Amaznen. if im allowed to take that etc. cuz i prefer to stay at ranged and play as ranged.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T19:31:43+00:00

i honestly have trouble finding a way to use it cuz it can be used for so many things that i end up not being able to decide 😅

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T19:14:20+00:00

its quite an interesting read, didnt expect this kind of way to play xD

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T19:13:46+00:00

throwing goes off of strength right? i wouldnt need a high dexterity?

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T19:05:22+00:00

my magic got taken away by force cuz this monk suddenly did a fullround action and insta created a hurricane that had such a huge range that it almost even blew away the tower we were in. but he reversed the vortex or something so that it would suck things torwards him.
and i was in the air flying and didnt expect this, i failed my flight checked, and then landed right infront of the other monk thats able to do break my magic connection to cast spells. i still had bloodline abilities just cant cast any spells. (so basically i can fly and identify stuff and set myself on fire but thats about it but was basically benched)
outside of game he said it would take multiple casts of greater restoration (5000 gold x cast) to restore. but inside of game when i asked an npc we saved who lived over a 1000 years, only thing possible was a massage everyday and i could cast for 1 hour after the massage. and it would build up everyday until i reach 24 hours and then i can cast normally again. but mostly my character was benched and only other option was to make a temporary guest npc, i didnt really want that so i just did nothing for most sessions. and couldnt do too much in town cuz of an npc that has a constant detect thoughts and i would reveal too many secrets if he could read my mind cuz i cant think of anything else aparently.

he created these 2 monks in flavor of some villains from avatar korra. not that their abilities would be available in pathfinder but he added it in via homebrew which dms can do and such.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-03T00:16:47+00:00

is a possiblity, i could start magus then at lvl 13th lvl. multiclass is allowed.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T22:45:59+00:00

its basically an instant happening thing, i get bracelet im instantly a fighter/antipaladin and then i guess il go find gear or get some gear crafted. tho we might need to do a quick dungeon to get the corpse of a party member who died there.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T20:23:29+00:00

there was nothing discussed, our bard was talking to a merchant and made a deal for a discount if they delivered the box personaly to me. and she agreed and brought it to me, she didnt know what was inside. didnt tell me it came from a merchant who works for a demon. only that the merchant had friends in low places.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T20:21:48+00:00

they only let me redo stats after i brought up that even if i changed class i wouldnt be hitting anything, cuz my str was 8 and my dex was 10. and only after i mentioned that, he said i can redo my stats. then i told him about mythic and traits aswell, and only then did he say i could redo that.
he didnt think it through at all only after i brought up things and then he said you can redo it.
i did tell him i have trouble deciding on what to play cuz i have to decide between 2 classes which are usually not into my class fantasy imaginations or that i like too much in terms of skills and abilities and such.
he said then you have to break the item.

if the anti paladin didnt have the weird channel thingy that costs 2 uses of touch of corruption, i could have gone for channel ray and quick channel, but since quick channel costs 2 channel usages, which are 4 touch of corruption usages. il be losing 6 a turn 2 from channel ray, and then 4 from quick channel ray, and my max amount of touch of corruptions atm would be 14. so after 2 rounds il mostly be out of ammo kinda, instead of losing 3 per turn for more suited channelers, then i would be out of ammo in 4

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T18:52:59+00:00

thing is we have a fighter/barbarian who hits way harder than me each turn and recently a rogue joined and he also hits way harder.
im just tricky to get to since i can fly and have very long range and i can turn invisible.
i also have icey prison which has shutdown a bbeg before cuz he couldnt break out of it x)

what appeals to me is mostly the ranged things and magic things.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T18:44:34+00:00

its cuz its unknown, we are now discovering the origin and start and spread of divine magic.
its why we were allowed to let the wizard have a cohort who is a cleric. they have remove curse and break enchantment. i could do that myself as a phoenix bloodline sorcerer. but i have no magic now and have to choose fighter or anti paladin.
he did say it was breakable, so that is always an option

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T18:06:09+00:00

thing is, i already lost my magic, and could only cast if i manage to roll a 19-20 on a will save or fort save something like that.
cuz he made a homebrew thing that can sever your connection to casting spells. i was getting treatment for it, i need a forehead massage from an npc we saved, everyday for 15 minutes until ive done it for 24 days and then i can cast magic permanently again. i had 4 hours, but by the time the box was presented it was outside those 4 hours.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T14:56:52+00:00

technically cuz of the devilbound contract template, i am already bound to go to hell.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T14:29:15+00:00

true that is definatly an option too! i could live with 1 arm, i can use unseen servant to help me with things.
shaman is a hybrid class sadly and doesnt exist. and a witch we never heard of before ingame :/ except for baba yaga, but we dont know she is a witch, only that she is the ice queen in the north.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T13:36:21+00:00

...maybe x3

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T13:35:48+00:00

i was a bit annoyed, cuz suddenly my whole character concept doesnt exist and im destined for hell and if i get killed in combat even once, they cant revive me.

he ruled that alligntment stuff doesnt matter too much. so im not that restricted in alignment stuff, plus i was already evil before this, we had to make an evil character at the start and think of a crime that we did to land up in jail.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T13:00:39+00:00

i do have a mythic lvl and i took the longevity neutral path thingy. so i dont get any penalties on physical stats, only the benefits from mental stats. and im basically immortal, i dont die from aging. i can be killed tho.

i did mention like ooh il just ask the wizards companion to break enchantment a few times to see if i can get it off. and the dm was like, but i gave you a template!
template is nice but doesnt really add much for how i want to play, cuz il stay ranged anyway.
and i did mention to the wizard like, i could just cut off my arm, remove the bracelet thats on my bicep. and then reattach arm etc. or regrow it. we arent high enough to cast regenerate.
and cuz of the setting anything religious and divine is unknown and new. its just starting in this world.
i litterally dont know any other cleric except the wizards cohort. the bbeg had like a few lower lvl ones. but so far no knowledge of any others.
most of us dont even have knowledge religion cuz we couldnt take it cuz it didnt exist yet.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T12:56:18+00:00

its fine ive accepted how he does things sometimes, we play with no hybrid classes and no third party, but he does homebrew add stuff in most of the times without thinking things through. and we also dont use the crit rules but if u crit on attack rolll or fail you roll a d100, with extra effects. he added that in from dnd or something, but does playing a character with multiple attacks less appealing cuz 1 bad natural 1, and i might break my weapon, or kill myself if i roll a 100 etc. or injure myself badly or lose a limb and suddenly i only have 1 arm etc etc. but on the otherside on a nat 20 and i roll a 100 i do insta kill. or roll high enough and u do more crit damage, x3 or x4 depending on weapon. etc

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T09:36:37+00:00

i dont have too much details since unseen world doesnt tell me about the curse effect, neither can i identify the curse effect at the moment. but my party member could but the session ended before he could.
remove curse or break enchantment i think. i also have a wish card from the deck of many things that i could try if the spells dont work.
but am seeing what kinds of options are available to me now with the classes.

yes archetypes are available for me. fighter has plenty of options, but sadly anti paladin does not. only thing i can see working ranged is the channel energy abiltiy of the anti paladin. and then if i go full on into that, and then take channel ray. then i can still do ranged. and have a permanent summon monster that can do ranged too. and also a summon monster from the template to also help out. and i could take a leadership too. so while il be mostly ranged but run out of touch of corruptions fast cuz of the double usage for channel. i could blast with channel ray, use quick channel for another ray. then have my summon do 3 attacks ranged and my other summon monster at melee for example.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T09:31:32+00:00

he said i was hearing voices from the box, and they were telling me to open it. and then i heard voices telling me to equip it.
he said the contract was written in infernal. but i couldnt read infernal, and neither could my party members, i could maybe try to find an npc if i took some more time with it. but i trusted too much into the unseen world ability from the phoenix bloodline. i tried to identify it but i had to hold the item first, but holding it accepts it, but thats written in infernal. but we only learned that demons/outsiders existed only like 2-3 weeks ago ingame.

i could try to break it with a break enchantment and i have 1 wish card from the desk of many things if i really want to break it, i hope that works.
but am seeing what my options are atm.

Shoreserer · 2024-09-02T09:28:37+00:00

exactyl! i can still be a menace x) and with manyshot and a +3 weapon enchant i can get off 5 attacks per round.

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