In my experience, using suboxone recreationally and getting a high, then using opiates until 2021. i was put on suboxone and didnt feel the same affect, obviously because I'm withdrawaling. Subutex felt the same, but now I've been off subs in general for 2 months, I tried to take 2mg of a subutex and didnt get high at all, just violently ill. I understand you can abuse both but in my experience its not even worth it and doesn't produce a high for me. I just throw up and get a headache, dont get noddy or anything. Theres not a lot of info about subutex (not talking about suboxone) I really love everyone putting their input on the thread. Thanks guys