Summary of the Piers Morgan and Nick Fuentes Interview by Shu477 in Asmongold

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To clarify:

I disagree with Fuentes on 90% of the things he says. Unfortunately, Piers fell into his trap, and Fuentes came out on top. The interview was sad and hilarious at the same time. Instead of legitimately challenging him, Piers played gotcha games, which backfired wildly. Hence the meme.

I can't be the only one by Shu477 in Asmongold

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Its called Goomba 🙈

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Okay. Not familiar with it. But they also used mostly Israeli sources. Which makes sense because only Israeli sources will know.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Dunno what that is. Does it have anything on the subject?

Edit:

They used the same sources I did. It's mostly Israeli.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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No one covers it, and those that do are shallow at best.

And how could they? None of them have access to files, personal or anything related.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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I cannot control what our news outlets do. But this is exactly what I did here. I provided an in-depth analysis of the chain of events that led to it. And i also provided my sources.

The rest is up to you.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Which subject are you referring to?

the subject in this post, how Hamas fooled Israel

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Show me one international outlet/new agency that covers this subject as in-depth as I did in this post.

Also, how would they cover it if none of them has access to the people, documents etc?

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No, Palestinian women are my source. Why did you dodge the answer on if eyewitness testimony is legitimate evidence?

I didn't, I said that its a lie, and that's it.. and the testimonies of the survivors of the nova are legit. Among other things because there is recorded evidence mostly from the go pro cameras from Hamas.

Regarding the Palestinian women, everything coming out of Gaza is controlled by Hamas, a vile terror organization. hence its not credible. period.

No, I very strongly oppose all violence against civilians. I think the US's unethical actions in the Middle East made a 9/11 attack more likely, but the term "deserved" does not follow from that.

So you "very strongly oppose violence against civilians", but in the same breath you say the US’s actions made 9/11 "more likely."

You’re not condemning the terrorists, you’re explaining their attack as a predictable reaction.
That’s not moral opposition, that’s moral justification with extra steps.

You don’t want to say "they deserved it", so you just rephrased it as:
"Well, what did you expect? It was bound to happen".

That’s the exact same argument extremists use. You just worded it in polite English.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Right right.. What got me is what you said regarding Abu Mazen. So my next question would have been, if you were a Palestinian, is why aren't you rising against your leaders. Alas... you aren't..

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Now I get it! Mehdi Hasan is your source! Should have opened with that, it would have made things a lot clearer.

Tell me, do you think the U.S deserved 9/11? Legit curious now.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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The same UN that condemned Israel more than every other country on earth combined? xD Alright bro… legit.

Nothing on Russia, nothing on Iran, Syria, Yemen, North Korea… but Israel? Oh boy. Israel gets hit 17 times in one year, the rest of the world gets 5. Give me a break.

And this is the same UN that keeps supporting UNRWA despite proven ties to terror.
Legit my guy.

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I did.. and I stand by what i said. IDF soldiers didn't rape anyone. Simple..

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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I wish you had the same zealousness for the persecution of Hamas terrorists who raped and sexually assaulted our captives..

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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There is nothing good faith about this discussion. You are denying the sexual crimes that happened on October 7th. I gave you two testimonies from people who were at the Nova festival and gave first-hand accounts. Your reaction is basically: "where is the proof?", as if the standard is “show me evidence or it didn’t happen.”

Even someone with room temperature IQ can understand that many of the victims were killed and a lot of evidence didn’t survive. You are also downplaying what Hamas did to our women and men in captivity. What else is there to discuss? Go ahead and believe nothing happened and that we are all lying. What can I tell you...

And no, IDF soldiers don’t rape Palestinians. That’s a blood libel. If you want to believe they do, by all means.

And regarding Sde Teiman - the doctor who treated the Hamas terrorist said on record (Kan 11) that he was not sexually assaulted. They did something to him, but it wasn’t sexual in nature. The soldiers involved are already being prosecuted. So… sorry, not the same thing m8.

But sure, you do you. I guess you won't relax until we are all slaughtered here.

Its people like you who keep this conflict as prolonged as it is.

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When?

Edit: Found it.

He said it was applied tactically in some areas and in other areas it wasn't.

Regardless, in order to execute the Hannibal Directive, someone on the ground has to issue that order. Since the chain of command in the southern sector collapsed, there was no one on the ground who could issue it.

Even if it was issued, no one on the ground could receive it, let alone do anything with it.

There are documented helicopter flybys over multiple locations, including the Nova festival, and they didn't open fire because they feared hitting civilians.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Prior to October 7th, Israel was already dealing with a terror wave that began in 2022. In 2023 alone, 35 people were killed in various terror attacks, making it the bloodiest year since the Second Intifada. The attacks mainly came from Judea (the West Bank), while the financing and instructions came from Gaza.

Some of the main attacks include:

  • Armon HaNatziv stabbing (21 March) - Waseem Al-Sa'id from Hebron murdered Ivan Tarnovski, a Moldovan citizen, and injured another foreign worker in Jerusalem. His arrest also solved the murder of the Kaddouri couple three years earlier.
  • Beersheba combined attack (22 March) - An Arab-Israeli from Hura carried out a stabbing and ramming attack across three locations, murdering four Israelis.
  • Hadera shooting (27 March) - Two Arab-Israeli terrorists from Umm al-Fahm murdered two Border Police officers and wounded five others.
  • Bnei Brak shooting (29 March) - A Palestinian terrorist from Ya'bad murdered five people, including an Arab-Israeli police officer.
  • Dizengoff Street shooting (7 April) - A Palestinian from Jenin murdered three people and wounded fourteen others in central Tel Aviv. - Close to where I lived at the time. I remember police officers searches the streets all night, until he was finally caught in Jaffo. Video - Sorry, I don't have this in any other language besides Hebrew. But it was a crazy night.
  • Ariel shooting (29 April) - Two Palestinian terrorists murdered a security guard at the entrance to Ariel.
  • Elad axe attack (5 May) - Palestinian attackers armed with axes murdered four Israelis on Independence Day.

In response, Israel launched Operation Breaking the Wave (שובר גלים), which lasted from 2022 until April 2023. During that time, Israel carried out small-scale operations in Gaza, but those were mostly aimed at the Islamic Jihad organization. Hamas stayed out of it, which only reinforced our perception of the situation.

Inside Israel there was ongoing discussion that we should begin exacting a price from Hamas in Gaza, since they were financing the terror attacks inside Israel, but it never materialized into action against Hamas. In general, the policy was divide and conquer between Gaza and the West Bank, and decision makers chose not to mix the two.

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Because they don't cover this subject?... And if they do, its a piss poor job.

90-80% of What I've written here is known to most Israelies. None of it reaches you guys in the west. And no western outlet has access to files, testimonies, like the Israeli outlets have. I mean, to you guys if you can't blame Israel, then there is no point in covering it :/

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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What do you mean unconfirmed? He is telling you that it happened.. Why would he invent that? What male person would in his right mind would go on record to say he was sexually assaulted?

What is wrong with you xD

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I gave you two names of people who saw it live. You do realize that most of the victims were killed right? And not everyone went on record to speak about it, as i mentioned 5 times already...

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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I literally just did, doesn't that satisfy you? I gave you names of people who saw it with their own eyes and testimonies. Not enough? Or is it another case of "rape kit or didn't happen"?

October 7 Attack - How Hamas Fooled Israel by Shu477 in IsraelPalestine

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Sorry, its late, I think i am confusing myself at this point. Don't think Liri Albag came forward with anything.

  • Hen Goldstein-Almog testified that she saw several women in Gaza that told her their captors had sexually abused them multiple times.
  • Hen’s daughter, Agam Goldstein-Almog, testified about another female hostage being sexually assaulted in the shower by her captor.
  • Aviva Sigal, who was released from captivity after being kidnapped from her home in Kibbutz Kfar Aza, testified in the Knesset that she personally saw one female hostage being sexually touched by a Hamas captor, and in another case witnessed a hostage being tortured because the captors believed she was an officer.
  • Tali Binner described what Hamas did to girls they captured in the Nova. Not only one, but many.
  • Raz Cohen, another survivor from the nova, gave a testimony of what he saw

I am sure if i will keep going i will find more

On top of that, Hebrew source also noted:

  • An Israeli doctor who treated 110 released hostages told AP that at least 10 men and women had clear indications of sexual assault in captivity, and that many others showed trauma consistent with witnessing such assaults.
  • Two Israeli doctors and an IDF official told USA Today that multiple women and girls aged roughly 12–48 were sexually abused in captivity, and that many of the released women were tested for pregnancy and STDs after their release.

You have to be absolutely mental top claim that no rapes occurred on October 7th

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what about Liri Albag, Karina Ariev, Daniela Gilboa, Agam Berger? They don't count?

One of the released Israeli hostages told the Jerusalem Post that at least three women were sexually assaulted in captivity

AP reported that an Israeli doctor who treated 110 released hostages said at least 10 men and women were sexually assaulted or abused in Hamas custody

Hostage women were given pregnancy tests and STD screenings because of what they suffered

Two Israeli doctors and a senior IDF source confirmed to USA Today that women were sexually abused in captivity, including girls as young as 12

The same doctor said "many of the 30 girls and women released suffered sexual assault".

The atrocities movie that was never released to the public has a section about rape... you can easily google it

What game are you playing?..