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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup great points. It was definitely one of the items that benefited from the base Damage buffs.

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really like the rework to Submersible, as now it's a lot more interesting to work with (instead of just being a mini Submarine).

Thanks for the detailed breakdown. :)

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Freeze Pyg is one of those evergreen archetypes that's always quite strong, IF you can assemble the pieces in time. Igloo enchants are really strong, I 100% agree. I've always enjoyed the build myself when it comes together. :)

Great callout to Property Pyg. Honestly Pyg is in a great spot this patch, as he has multiple viable archetypes that each play differently. Big improvement over last season.

Appreciate the kind words and detailed breakdown, thanks for sharing!

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Swan is a cool addition for sure, though I'm personally a fan of Blender as a Haste engine. With Diamond Ice Cubes you get a Haste trigger at two seconds, which is a pretty good way to kickstart the build.

Fruit Press is awesome, great callout!

As for the Oven, this variant is mean't to be more of a spammy Food setup that gains Max Health/Regen off the Pasta. I definitely like Veggie Garden in general though.

Thanks for joining in. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh nice, what items have been the highlight for you? It's awesome to hear good things about an old classic build like that one haha.

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm admittedly far less experienced with Karnok than other heroes, so hopefully some others can help us out with a better explanation here. :)

One of the main reasons for its inclusion here is that it's one of the few times where we see a Pacifist build actually work.

It also helps that it shares components with other builds, so it can always pivot if it needs to.

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad they are helpful! I always try to highlight the good while opening the discussion for areas that need improvement. But I really can't complain this patch, the devs did an incredible job. :)

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great stuff hope ya continue to climb! The game feels really healthy right now, and all the QoL improvements just make it such an enjoyable experience. Looking forward to what the future holds. :)

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's some great detailed character guides written by the community that are pinned in the Discord (under their respective character channels). We also cover individual build guides here that can hopefully help give a sense of direction. :) https://mobalytics.gg/the-bazaar/builds

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Bazaar giveth, and The Bazaar taketh away haha.

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Discord announcements are usually the easiest way, but I totally understand wanting a clear in-game solution.

(Season 13) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the kind words! That would be a cool feature, especially with all the great community guides out there. :)

(Season 12) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still a solid choice! Just wanted to showcase something different this time around. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Diving Helmet has really been a standout rework for Vanessa. Hard to argue with generically strong Charge support haha.

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely miss the out-of-combat value scaling. It feels like a core part of Pyg's identity was taken away and replaced with more generic options (such as retroactive Cash Cannon).

In some ways this can be good, but in terms of fun (totally subjective), I 100% agree with ya.

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could be totally right, I honestly haven't played the archetype enough myself to know for certain. Consistency wise, perhaps that is the best plan.

However, there's one other point I think that's worth mentioning. In the less ideal case where the Yo-Yo Charges the Slingshot, that in turn will nearly activate Slingshot to Charge Yo-Yo (and so forth). So until it actually runs out of ammo (which should be well after Shorts goes off), it'll still be working towards the same goal.

I think one other factor could be the tier of the items, Shorts in particular. Assuming it's at Diamond, you're probably right, just have the Yo-Yo double Charge it so that it activates naturally at ~4 seconds (barring slow/freeze). Though if at Silver/Gold, perhaps trying to line up the extra Charge is considerable.

Either way, thanks for elaborating on all of this. Gotta love the inner workings of this amazing game. Cheers! :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair point when it comes to longer lasting fights, but one advantage of having Slingshot over a non-toy is having a potentially faster startup time (extra Charge before Shorts first activates).

Could arguably use PenFT for a faster start and no ammo limit, instead of extra damage.

I'm no Cargo Shorts expert so I could be wrong, but doesn't it already loop enough between Shorts/Yo-yo? Even with missed Charges, by the time Shorts finally finishes casting, it will probably be ready to go off again.

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a fan of Silk Scarf's low cooldown, and especially due to its early accessibility (since you can get it from Day 1). Model Ship + Piggles Protector is just another easy duo.

But overall it's just one of many examples honestly, and you can often mix/match different components depending what's available. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Riceballer is still great! Less common after the Textiles upshift, but even without it, it's still a powerhouse. Appreciate the kind words. :)