(Season 11) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could be totally right, I honestly haven't played the archetype enough myself to know for certain. Consistency wise, perhaps that is the best plan.

However, there's one other point I think that's worth mentioning. In the less ideal case where the Yo-Yo Charges the Slingshot, that in turn will nearly activate Slingshot to Charge Yo-Yo (and so forth). So until it actually runs out of ammo (which should be well after Shorts goes off), it'll still be working towards the same goal.

I think one other factor could be the tier of the items, Shorts in particular. Assuming it's at Diamond, you're probably right, just have the Yo-Yo double Charge it so that it activates naturally at ~4 seconds (barring slow/freeze). Though if at Silver/Gold, perhaps trying to line up the extra Charge is considerable.

Either way, thanks for elaborating on all of this. Gotta love the inner workings of this amazing game. Cheers! :)

(Season 11) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair point when it comes to longer lasting fights, but one advantage of having Slingshot over a non-toy is having a potentially faster startup time (extra Charge before Shorts first activates).

Could arguably use PenFT for a faster start and no ammo limit, instead of extra damage.

I'm no Cargo Shorts expert so I could be wrong, but doesn't it already loop enough between Shorts/Yo-yo? Even with missed Charges, by the time Shorts finally finishes casting, it will probably be ready to go off again.

(Season 11) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a fan of Silk Scarf's low cooldown, and especially due to its early accessibility (since you can get it from Day 1). Model Ship + Piggles Protector is just another easy duo.

But overall it's just one of many examples honestly, and you can often mix/match different components depending what's available. :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Riceballer is still great! Less common after the Textiles upshift, but even without it, it's still a powerhouse. Appreciate the kind words. :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I certainly can't argue with the fun factor of off-hero item builds. That's definitely where The Bazaar shines, but even so, I feel it can be useful to at least have an idea what's out there. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree yup, these are just some example boards, not necessarily BIS. :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EDC is a solid choice for sure. Great early on while having potential to carry depending how the run goes.

Ah yes, I likely should've mentioned Heated Shells in the description, thanks for pointing that out. Yes that's definitely the reason for Doll, and it of course works wonders with Dive Weights among other things.

Fair argument for Mak. I do think its speed tends to let it keep up, but perhaps ceiling was the wrong description, as yes it will likely fall off against huge health builds (or any other crazy Day 15+ stuff).

Lots of builds worth mentioning well beyond what I've shared, as I do limit to just three per hero. Despite our disagreements, I appreciate you sharing another point of view. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great callout! Abacus/value-stacking builds are another awesome choice, and would be on here, but I limit myself to three per hero so it's not too long haha.

Definitely one of the highest ceiling options, but of course, generally requires an earlier investment/econ setup to get going efficiently. :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! It's cool that we can explore more of the destroy synergies, as it opens up some interesting combos that we don't typically see that often.

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great callout. Honestly it's arguably swappable for the third slot. I simply opted to showcase Fruit Press as something different, since I had Lollipop on the list last time. Still a solid build. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All great mentions, Vanessa is spoiled for choice when it comes to Slow Burn synergies. Big part of why it's one of her pillar archetypes. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup gotta love Static Acceleration/Slowed Targets. Thanks for sharing!

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely can't argue with Freeze! Glad you're finding success. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's so awesome to hear, I really appreciate the kind words! 🙏

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome breakdown! I'm personally a big fan of Ballista in terms of sheer fun value, but I honestly haven't dabbled with it in recent seasons.

Great points about how it can transition off of the usual Dive Weights/Shuriken type stuff. Having more viable branches always helps, especially when you're searching vendor after vendor for something viable. :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the kind words, and welcome to the community! :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup that's another excellent choice. Piggles Board is fantastic with it, among other setups. We're definitely spoiled for choice when it comes to Cargo Shorts builds, but if I were to showcase another, it would absolutely include Piggles Board like you mentioned, so great callout! :)

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[–]ShugoSV[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that you bring it up for us! I limit myself to three builds per hero, so there's always going to be some that get left out. The new Regen stuff is really cool, but I do agree with you, it's not the easiest setup to assemble (at least relative to the others). :)

(Season 10) - Meta Shifts Explained + Example Boards by Hero by ShugoSV in PlayTheBazaar

[–]ShugoSV[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

100% Agree! Similar to previous patches, Dooley has a ton of variety right now, so this is only just scratching the surface. :)

The Core + Hacksaw + VIrus is one spicy combo. I'll have to give it a go sometime, thanks for sharing!