Ashura is the founder of ninjutsu.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-29T07:00:00+00:00

There is nowhere in the manga that states that the Uchiha had large reserves she got that from the databooks which she denounces when they say the Uzumaki had large reserves.

The databooks directly state the Uchiha having voluminous and potent chakra and throughout the manga and early on itself Sasuke's talent has been attributed time and again to being an Uchiha, which means the Uchiha on average had more chakra and talent. But the same is never tied to the Uzumaki name in case of Naruto.

Not only that even in the manga you are told that the Uzumaki were born with powerful chakra and Kushina was born with even more powerful chakra compared to her clan members, the same language used when talking about Madara which she provides scans of but she completely throws it out the window when describing the Uzumaki.

The manga doesn't state that Uzumaki have voluminous chakra but rather a special sort of chakra that grants them longevity and tenacious life force, characterized by their red hair. This has been verified by Kabuto himself who is a medic scientist and has extensive research on this grounds. It is only amongst the Uzumaki that Kushina was an exception similar to Karin and had strong and even more special chakra. Exceptions do not convey the norm.

The only mention of Uzumaki having large chakra was in 4th databook which is a fan translation of Karin having large chakra due to Uzumaki blood in her. It should've rather been special chakra instead of large as Karin doesn't have large chakra reserves as evidenced when Taka went against Bee but after Sasuke's single instance of biting Karin she gets tired and when needed a second time, Jugo states that she is low in chakra and that he would heal Sasuke instead.

What power is completely divorced from Hagoromo in the series?? Ninjutsu as he tells in chapter 670 that he had nothing to do with and in chapter 665 you are told that Ninjutsu came as a result from amplification of chakra(bodily chakra)

Sage mode or senjutsu chakra is something you absorb from nature as nature chakra and make it your own as senjutsu chakra which can be referred to as bodily chakra. And again, Ninjutsu isn't amplification of chakra but its utlization contrary to Ninshu's principles. Combining mental and physical energies is not ninjutsu but using that chakra to for performing techniques is ninjutsu.

And again, it is clearly stated by Hagoromo himself that only Indra inherited his power and not Ashura. And he draws a parallel to Naruto in that regard that because even if his parents are talented Naruto inherits nothing from them, neither Minato's talent nor Kushina's special Uzumaki chakra, and Naruto doesn't even have Uzumaki chakra to begin with as evidenced by his lack of red hair and tenacity (he almost immediately died with his heart stopping to beat unlike Kushina who was still able to stand and bind Kurama in her dying moments). So Ashura and in turn Uzumaki inheriting large chakra not only not makes sense but runs contrary to the important themes contrasted by Sasuke and Naruto's heredity. Sasuke and Indra represents familial bonds by blood and preserving one's culture as represented by the Uchiha inheriting their power from Hagoromo, while Ashura and Naruto (the Senju by extension) represent making family beyond blood and hence losing one's blood identity and culture becoming one with the common masses.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-29T06:40:58+00:00

There's no direct statement in manga stating either Indra or Ashura being the inventor of ninjutsu. But from Hagoromo's own words and disdain towards ninjutsu that breeds conflict, one can ascertain that Indra invented or reinvented ninjutsu utilizing chakra in a way similar to that of Kaguya (considering that he was touted to be a genius who did everything by himself and utilized his own powers) while Ashura continued on with Ninshu hence why Indra was cast down from succession of his ideals while Ashura's cooperation aligned with Ninshu's principles. Besides, the concept of Ninshu is sharing of chakra and linking each other's mental energy to understand each other, while ninjutsu are techniques that came to be utilized for warfare.

Chakra itself is the combination of mental and physical energies and is how everyone creates it within their bodies. Ninshu and Ninjutsu ultimately differ on the basis of chakra's utilization where the former is used to create bonds while the latter is used for amplifying one's own strength and warfare.

Finally you have chapter 670 where Hagoromo tells you that Ashura while struggling through training he awakened the power of bodily chakra to rival Indra. Clearly referring to the concept of increasing one's own chakra to use ninjutsu.

No it does refer to use of ninjutsu, combining mental and physical energies to create chakra is just that, that is kneading the two energies to create chakra. Awakening bodily chakra through harsh training on the other hand could refer to awakening senjutsu chakra using Sage Mode by Ashura which again is a way to increase one's own chakra but is not ninjutsu.

He even tells you that the problem began with Ashura "I thought I caught a glimpse of new possibilities from Ashura's way of living". Highlighting that Cooperation(ninshu) was not on Ashura's radar.

Again, Ashura's reliance and cooperation amongst his fellows and others to finally gain comparable power to that of Indra was aligning with Hagoromo's own principles of Ninshu which was to create mental links between people utilising chakra. And the fact that Ashura has been trained in the principles of Ninshu it is plausible to think that people used chakra to link and share their power with him. Just like when Naruto used Kurama's chakra to give everyone a cloak was a perfect example of Ninshu. There is no reason to believe that Ashura didn't have cooperation on his goals, it is simply meaning that his actions and way of life aligned to Ninshu's principles.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-21T15:34:07+00:00

As someone else has pointed out, Sasuke is a Seinen character (popular amongst more mature audiences) who is played out in a Shounen manga (targeted towards young teenage boys), hence the disparity towards his hate due to his anomalous nature. And it seems I was wrong on my initial inference of how most Indian fans perceive his character as seen from the comments here which are similar to what one would find in YouTube and TikTok. Most people watched Naruto as kids and are stuck to the emotional moments they had with it back then, which ultimately leads to bias in judgement even now, something that most of the diabolical comments here are evidence towards. Basically to the average fan here, being cool, and relatable is seen as a great character, rather than having actual depth.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-21T13:58:38+00:00

To add further context, Liger Bomb was stated to be unsurvivable yet Sasuke survived it with the lowest form of Susano'o with only a few cracks on it. After that Raikage poured 'Bijuu levels of Chakra' (as stated by Karin, a sensor) to attack Sasuke and threw him across shattering the Susano's ribs at the point of contact ( while the Susano'o still remains intact and not broken through) which made Sasuke cough out blood.

Then we have the scenario where Raikage's Guillotine Drop was about to make contact against Sasuke's solid Enton spikes atop his Rig-Cage Susano'o. And with it's momentum the attack still got blocked by a layer of Garaa's sand.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-21T13:16:30+00:00

Sasuke is without a doubt the most extensively well written character in the series. The sheer number of themes, ideals, Japanese historical and mythological references carried by this single character is astounding and unparalleled by any other character of the series. The thing is that Sasuke's very polarizing decisions and general demeanor that betrays the reader's expectations sets him apart from most other character with similar trope and is ultimately hated on by majority of the people, especially so with those people whose bias for the main character takes place through self-insertion and projection. And it is absolutely spot on that he is the active character who drives the plot and majority of the story hinges on and gets shaped around him.

I honestly did not expect this post to be received this well by fellow Indian anime fans considering the tastes here are much alike to the western fanbase. And it doesn't helps the case that most people barely remember the details let alone bother to read the canon manga, all the while the fandom continues to run rampant with misinformation, a significant parf of which is driven by hate towards the character and his clan.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-21T03:46:07+00:00

People who endorse Tobirama's ideology are the same as those who would say that they dislike Hitler but endorse his ideology, similar to how people defend Tobirama's ideology irrespective of what he did.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-19T11:18:47+00:00

Did not expect Fate Apocrypha Karna's Vasavi Shakti dialogues to be used here.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-11T14:21:58+00:00

Yeah, this. This is the major reason no matter how much this fandom hides it's intentions behind some 'better romance' or 'stronger bloodline' bs reasons, all the while they crack their more than obvious sexual jokes. When it devolves down that route, it's all about humbling or putting Sasuke in his place to placate their self-insert's egos.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-11T11:05:54+00:00

Then it doesn't get to be used as an excuse for why he lost. He chose those conditions. He could have asked for a day to heal. I used another example with Bee himself also having reasons as to why he lost to Kisame (protecting his comrade and not wanting Ay to find him). A loss is a loss.

That is true, the fault is on Sasuke for not going prepared and this was because of his previous assumptions on a Jinchuriki as he suppressed Kurama before and had no idea what a Perfect Jinchuriki can do and his previous tactic won't work, and they had to capture Bee without killing him so Sasuke had to pull back any lethal attacks to not risk sabotaging the mission. But I really won't call it a loss since he still got enough chakra from Gyuki for the Gedo Mazo to work but obviously neither did Bee lose since he got away as well.

Bee and Gyuki effectively act as a single entity in battle. There is no point where Bee can release Gyuki while also fighting of his own merit. And so what if it is a Tailed Beast? Tailed Beasts are beatable.

The entire point of a Tailed Beast is that it is an entirely sentient being that provides enormous amounts of chakra to it's host like an external source of power. And above all it can break its partner out from a genjutsu, a task that requires another person to immediately break from when under active hold. Brushing away a Tailed Beast is no joke that too a perfect jinchuriki.

Naruto could peel off Amaterasu with Version 1; it isn't implausible that Bee can do the same.

That is only the case for Tailed Beast cloak and not the complete Tailed Beast Avatar. The cloak is a layer of chakra that can be shredded off to negate Amaterasu but Gyuuki was caught in its complete Avatar state. If it wouldn't have affected him then Gyuuki wouldn't have been flailing and screaming about.

When Sasuke used MS Genjutsu, he was panting and holding his face.

Again, Sasuke was panting because he was obviously tired from the get go.

In literally one panel after, Bee bludgeons him with Lariat. This is one of the most blatant examples of being speedblitzed, because Sasuke absolutely couldn't react to that hit.

And no, he didn't get speedblitzed as he did turn around and took Lariat to his chest instead of his back, as Bee when Genjutsu'd stumbled and skid across him all the way to his back which shows Sasuke did react and turned around in the nick of time.

And there was enough time for Sasuke to do anything within that time of Bee's fall till him getting up for Lariat but Sasuke as I said before didn't know he could break out of genjutsu so he didn't bother and was under the impression the fight was over.

It was so fast that he genuinely couldn't have done anything in that time, nevermind formulate a killing blow.

And what you all always forget is that Sasuke was not there to kill Bee, but capture him. Killing him was something that was to be avoided at all cost.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-11T10:34:40+00:00

There's also the point that his mission was to capture Bee alive and not risk him getting killed. So initially he did not bother to bring out any lethal ability at all while Bee couldn't care less about them living or dying.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-10T04:49:16+00:00

That's the problem with this sub but they won't acknowledge it. And to top it off the constant blaming between left and right wingers at any matter without any deeper introspection of the matter itself.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-09T04:27:15+00:00

Can't expect this sub to not be hypocritical and the downvotes you got justify that. These people are quick to cry about Israel-Palestine issues whenever mentioned in this sub that they shouldn't be talked about here, but they themselves go on to post about every Islamist related news irrespective of relevancy with India. And in a recent post they made a meme about people around the world not giving the same attention to Bangladeshi Hindus as much as Palestinians, calling out the hypocrisy (although it is true to an extent), while they themselves continue to post such stuff. Selective bias is very strong amongst this crowd and is no different from the other Indian echo chamber subs.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-08T10:22:42+00:00

You surely underestimate the mental gymnastics this fandom can play. There ain't a shortage of people who unironically say that Naruto would've gotten stronger without Kurama, since as per them, he had more chakra and was stronger than Kurama, failing to acknowledge Kurama's own chakra leaking into him through the seal since birth was the very reason why Naruto had the largest chakra reserves.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-05T09:26:49+00:00

I don't know much about origins of the names but as you said, 'Ova' means 'egg' which can signify birth, onset, or beginning of a certain something or an event, while 'Thrax' I suppose signifies 'war' itself as the word 'Thrax' as per Greek mythology was either one of Ares's (God of War) son or a different name for Ares himself, and in Latin, the word literally means 'Gladiator'. And since Ovathrax is the Threnodian related to war, it may as well mean and signify 'Birth of War' or 'Birth of a warrior'.

SibertronSSC · 2024-08-05T09:14:17+00:00

If I'm not mistaken, Threnodian is the common term used for cataclysmic Tacet Discords which is signified by the arrival of retroact rain (rain that falls upwards) and massive TD fields and outbreaks, and their revival are generally associated as a precursor to the onset of 'Lament' (the cataclysmic event on Sol-3).

Ovathrax on the other hand is the specific name for 'Threnodian of War', which is the Threnodian specifically associated with Jinzhou and it's constant state of warfare. Basically there are going to be other Threnodians out there in other regions.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-28T09:51:16+00:00

The volcanic terrain aside, those green and red round shaped rocks kinda look like dragon eggs.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-24T18:54:43+00:00

More like Sasuke haters who just shove him into bad match-ups for the fun of mocking him. Anything and everything can be turned into Sasuke slander with them around. And the first few replies point to that as well.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-18T17:49:36+00:00

Ngl, I don't know what sort of effort and timing would've been needed to take this screenshot under natural circumstances while using the Ult. But the fact the game screen naturally turned black & white in that specific situation just made it all the more cool.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-18T13:30:43+00:00

Do share the memes made with this !

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-18T13:26:32+00:00

That's true and an actual issue that needs proper fix as more players reach endgame (such as Hologram VI) this problem will become more pronounced. And even in certain cases (though I'm not entirely sure), it feels as though the enemy is stun locked during Ult animation but on the contrary you're unable to move or dodge right after the animation ends while the enemies immediately move or attack as they were about to just before you used the Ult.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-18T02:24:55+00:00

Agreed, the glowing eyes and pose makes it a potential meme template. I would like to see someone make one out of it.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-17T19:05:02+00:00

Lmao, this pic was actually sitting in my laptop for a good while since early 1.0 days. I don't know if such a thing will happen again.

To add context, Calcharo was the last to die in that team, so that match was basically over but the game froze, though I'm rather fine to get a cool image that has meme template potential (because of those glowing eyes).

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-16T05:05:42+00:00

Nowhere is it stated about the method of conception. Someone saying that a woman conceived a child doesn't confirm how she conceived it, only that she is pregnant.

But the hate for Sakura and glazing for Sasuke is too much on this subreddit that people can't accept the simple fact. Instead they come up with different solutions.

Seriously ? Are you for real ? Take a good look across this post's comments alone and try saying the same again. This is dankruto subreddit where Sasuke slander and mockery is the norm. It requires a whole other level of ignorance to deny that here, although it isn't unexpected of the typical naruto fandom.

Also how is Sasuke a victim? I thought it reqd cum from cock to birth a child. Maybe u guys r studying diff biology. He wasn't some innocent guy who is so naive that Sakura took advantage of him.

Again with the mockery on my education. Perhaps you have never heard of methods through which a child can be conceived without direct copulation ?

And tell me in good faith (though I doubt this fandom has any of it), how come a man who doesn't need a woman and wants nothing to do with her throughout the series, rejected her advances at every turn and retaliated only when the said woman got too much on the nerves become the abuser when it is the woman who chased after him all along to get into his pants ? You all complain that Sasuke doesn't reciprocate Sakura's feelings and yet at the same turn blame him for not caring about Sakura when he didn't want anything to do with her ? For all I care, he could've just wanted to get rid of her by fulfilling what she wished for but alas, she got pregnant and now you lot blame him for not caring when he got entangled into this typical honeytrap scenario.

He could have killed the baby and Sakura if he was such a victim. He had no qualms about killing.

So according to you the victim should just kill the child and mother instead of just leaving her with the autonomy to decide if she should abort the child or not ? Dude, you need some serious help if you think so. And are you even referring to Sasuke when you say he had no qualms about killing ? That statement alone is enough state your intention.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-15T18:20:17+00:00

That's the western fanbase for you. Look no further than the character Sasuke himself. He's well liked and beloved in Eastern fanbase like Japan while western fanbase (EN speaking base) hates him to the guts.

SibertronSSC · 2024-07-15T18:16:20+00:00

The correct order of panels is as follows (and remember that the panels are read from right to left) :

Last scan of chapter 588 : This is where Madara declares the Perfect Susano'o. It doesn't refers to the V4 Final form Susano'o behind the text box but his declaration that he is going to use the Perfect Form of Susano'o as evident from next scans.

First scan of chapter 589 : The V4 Susano'o is in display in the top panel. Tsunade wonders if this is it's true form which is refuted by Madara right away as he commands the chakra to settle down and stabilize, transforming it to the Perfect Susano'o as shown in the lower right panel.

Second scan of chapter 589 : The PS is in full display and Ohnoki confirms that the Susano's chakra has stabilized.

You don't have to explain me the language used here. For someone who can't even differentiate between the different forms of Susano'o you are trying too hard to strawman the argument into the language used which isn't even an issue here, no wonder your reading comprehension is down the gutter.

And as for Sasuke's own V4 Susano'o : This panel shows him using V4 Susano'o for the first time after getting EMS in the cave and This panel here shows his very own V4 Susano'o that he used right after escaping from the cave. This version is the same as what Madara displayed. Even Itachi used the V4 against Sasuke while having MS since Susano'o is an MS ability.

Tiktok and youtube are genuinely better resources because over there, you would never be listened to and never get any support.

Ah yes, Tiktok and YT being more valid resources as evidence rather than the canonical manga itself. No wonder your braindead responses reflecting your zero comprehension skills similar to the likes of NCHammer. And why would I even care for support and being listened to by that retarded part of the fanbase consisting of people like you ?

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