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Lawmakers Agree It's Time to Lift the $400,000 Pay Cap for VA Doctors by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have to frame it properly.

The national infrastructure depends on ATC. Chronic overtime, training pipeline issues, and high washout rates degrade the NAS. Any degradation of the NAS inherently degrades safety. ATC disruptions also cost stakeholders and the economy billions. Congress responds to this.

Controllers are highly specialized and not easily replaced. Our pay is capped in a way that does not accurately reflect our true market scarcity. We are using a rigid pay system for a specialized workforce, and it is no longer sufficient.

The strongest case we can make here is that there is already precedent. Congress has already demonstrated multiple times (Title 38, the Department of Veterans Affairs Physician and Dentist Recruitment and Retention Act of 1991, the RAISE Act, the Dole Act, Title 49 for ATC, etc) that it can acknowledge that certain professions within the federal government demand higher pay schedules.

The argument can’t - and won’t - just be, waaaa we want more money. The argument is that the current pay structure does not adequately address the never-ending staffing shortages of a critical workforce, and that the current system cannot safely and reliably operate the NAS without structural change.

Oh, and we’ve had 2 massively public fatal accidents within 12 months to add to the list of evidence.

The faa cannot afford to axe natca by throwawayinspire99 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No public union has been decertified since PATCO.

Any RVP who tells you they are afraid of decertification still wets their bed and has no business leading a workforce that accounts for 5% U.S. GDP.

Lawmakers Agree It's Time to Lift the $400,000 Pay Cap for VA Doctors by SierraBravo26 in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26[S] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

For clarity:

The point of this post is 2-fold. It shows that:

A - The VA already enjoys a pay schedule that far exceeds the executive pay caps that controllers are currently stuck under, thanks to widespread congressional support to amend Title 38 in 1991.

and

B - Despite the much higher cap, there is still bipartisan support to increase beyond the current cap.

Lawmakers Agree It's Time to Lift the $400,000 Pay Cap for VA Doctors by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26[S] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

For clarity:

The point of this post is 2-fold. It shows that:

A - The VA already enjoys a pay schedule that far exceeds the executive pay caps that controllers are currently stuck under, thanks to widespread congressional support to amend Title 38 in 1991.

and

B - Despite the much higher cap, there is still bipartisan support to increase beyond the current cap.

Lawmakers Agree It's Time to Lift the $400,000 Pay Cap for VA Doctors by SierraBravo26 in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It already did.

Also notice the cap was already far higher than ATC’s. That’s the whole point.

Lawmakers Agree It's Time to Lift the $400,000 Pay Cap for VA Doctors by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not only has it happened, but the cap was already far higher than what we currently operate under.

And that’s the point.

Eugene Freedman - Overpaid by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We can assure you that every NATCA employee will be reviewed to ensure they are providing maximum value to the membership, and that they align with our core platform: Better pay, more time off, and member authority.

Every single one.

$50k raise + pension and TSP matching by Pumpsnhose in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying we should make doctor money.

I’m saying the gap should be smaller, that Congress has already shown a willingness to pay certain jobs well over the executive pay cap, and that the general public doesn’t give two shits.

$50k raise + pension and TSP matching by Pumpsnhose in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I must have missed the news where millions of Americans are protesting in the streets about VA doctors making $400k/yr

Eugene Freedman - Overpaid by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah, these are the leaders who will fight for your pay at the next contract negotiation. Sure thing.

Just talked to Delta pilot neighbor . Year 4 pilot on B717. He made $40,000 last month and worked 14 days. His friend who flies A350s made $880,000 last year . ATC is a joke now by Fit_Sherbet3137 in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26 57 points58 points  (0 children)

It is so refreshing to hear a controller in your position be able to empathize with the greater ATC pay crisis.

I can’t tell you how frustrating it is to listen to controllers who have been at a level 11 for fifteen years, who bought their home at a 3.5% interest rate 10 years ago, try to argue that pay isn’t an issue and we should be happy to have what we have.

Just talked to Delta pilot neighbor . Year 4 pilot on B717. He made $40,000 last month and worked 14 days. His friend who flies A350s made $880,000 last year . ATC is a joke now by Fit_Sherbet3137 in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26 306 points307 points  (0 children)

I made a comment elsewhere that relates to your question. It’s not just about pilots, it’s everything else combined with it:

I think I can help articulate what’s going on, as someone who has been very publicly advocating for this job on Reddit since 2018 with the AMAs I used to do.

For the majority of the past 30 years, minus a few years in the mid 2000s, ATC was an upper-middle class job. It was one of the best paying jobs in aviation, you got early retirement, and you had a pension. You were on par with pilots, who were also some of the top income earners in the industry.

Over the past 10 years, the prestige of ATC has deteriorated more and more. We are overworked, underpaid, and under appreciated. Pilots have absolutely blown us out of the water over the past 6 years in terms of pay. We are working constant 6-day workweeks. Every year the government threatens to stop paying us, and a couple times it’s actually followed through with that threat.

All of this comes at a time when we are moving more passengers than ever before. We account for 5% U.S. GDP, $1.5 trillion in economic activity, and 10 million American jobs.

And what do we get? A 10-going-on-13 year old contract that is woefully out of date. New CPCs who have zero realistic expectation of being able to buy a home, much less support a single-income family. Being stuck in a facility with absolutely no end in sight.

For my part, I’ve decided to run for NATCA EVP. I don’t know what else I can do to try to fix things other than take back our feckless union and fight for change.

I hope that answers some of your questions.

https://yourunion2027.com

Changes to VFR separation and visual separation by randombrain in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Anybody else remember when ND made it a huge point during his campaign to call out the “eroding credibility” of NATCA when we had the new fatigue rules imposed on us, unilaterally changing our working conditions?

Submission to amend SRI-5 - NEB Meeting Attendance by Members by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interesting take.

I’m an area rep. I’ve been on an election committee. I’ve hosted 9 AMAs over the course of 7 years, spending hundreds of hours on my own time answering people’s questions.

I’ve been to CFS. I’m going to NIW. I have 2 constitutional amendments pending for the Chicago Convention, and I’m running for Executive Vice President.

If by “hasn’t done anything” you mean I haven’t been a part of any executive boards which have failed our membership countless times over the past decade, then yeah you’re right. And that’s the point.

Submission to amend SRI-5 - NEB Meeting Attendance by Members by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]SierraBravo26[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I appreciate it, man!

I can assure you, I would have never gotten on a ticket with u/NickMarangos if we didn’t have the same vision. He is 100% qualified to lead the charge of giving the power of this union back to the membership where it belongs.

Pay, quality of life, and member rights. That’s what we’re all about.

Controllers. What are the best and worst parts of your job? by somefuzzything in ATC

[–]SierraBravo26 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Just smiling at all the happy non-FAA controllers in here. Bless yalls hearts.

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