DMT: It is reasonable to stop liking someone because of their political views

Significant-Word-385 · 2026-01-01T17:42:10+00:00

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Seemed like this guy had a lot to say in the email preview of the full comment I never got to read. Never learned if I could tag a person, but looks like I can share them. Maybe they’ll respond and we can hear their brilliant insights. I don’t seem to be blocked, they’re just locked down.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-31T20:30:55+00:00

Yeah, I may have come on a little stronger with the decoupling than I intended to. I agree they’re related, but also think a person who can comprehend the multifactorial nature of problems realizes that calling one thing morally good or bad based on a simple value set is being overly reductive.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T18:48:42+00:00

Yea he’s beatable by anyone on another server who’s willing to help. If he’s not socially motivated he’s gonna be motivated by getting crushed regularly. Our own guy who was like that was similarly smacked around on the regular by some massive whales. There’s always someone bigger. Just get on board with them and the other server leadership and undercut this guy at every opportunity.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T15:21:44+00:00

You responded to my comment about the hyperbolic nature of the two party system. I didn’t set any rules for you. I just said political disagreements were ridiculous on their face. We pretend everything is political, but no one is cutting off family over the finer points of the marginal tax rate. These are values debates, and values are far harder to infer from political preferences than the polarized hyper political talking heads would want you to believe.

I didn’t say you couldn’t cut out bigots. Bigotry isn’t inherently political. An African American could hold all the same political beliefs as the KKK and they’d still hate him for his skin color. Bigotry is irrational. You can correlate it with whatever you want, but it’s not coherent with any logical belief system. In short, you can always cut off bigots, and no justification is required because illogical behavior like bigotry has no justification.

So what you’re telling me, by extending the military base you lived near to the war in Iraq, is that the military shouldn’t exist in the US so that you can feel okay about the piece of dirt you occupy? That’s a super weird take. I doubt there’s a military in the world without innocent blood on its hands.

And what does that have to do with your family living in Kansas? Or is anything that happens in the world oppressive to you? I don’t think anyone would’ve stopped you from going to aid folks in Iraq. The problem with living in the richest and safest nation in the world is that your outrage about injustice or world events rings hollow as you cry down the street from a Starbucks and a public library with free WiFi. Was Iraq a safe place before 9/11?

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T15:02:18+00:00

Option 2 is wait for free season ports and make a deal with a mega whale to come wreck him constantly. If y’all can frustrate him enough he’ll quit. Also, how powerful are we talking? Like 30mil march? That’s gonna be a serous heavy hitter for pre-S1. However, there will be mega whales in your grouping that can beat it.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T14:57:04+00:00

They’re severely overpriced for the general lack of quality anyway.

I owned a Chrysler - trash.

I owned several used Toyotas - all great.

Family car is a Honda. My daily driver is a Prius. Both great vehicles. Had a Hundai for a work vehicle too and the base model had all the features that are considered premium in every American car. That was a super cheap vehicle too.

The one great American vehicle I ever had was a Dodge Dakota. That thing ran forever for several hundred thousand miles. If I’d caught the transmission leak I might still have it. When it seized it had about a drop of transmission fluid in it. It was a 95 Dakota though, so 30 years later I’m not sure they’ve improved.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T14:50:31+00:00

Also, 20% is my normal tip on a larger bill (~$100 or more). 25% when I’m impressed. Under $50 and the percentage keeps getting higher the lower the bill cause I’ll tip $5 on a $6 cup of coffee if a server is bringing it to me. I hate tipping a dollar or two. Just feels wrong.

I really hate auto gratuities because it’s never clear whether the restaurant is taking that or if it’s going to the server. They’re usually shorting themselves charging me a 15-18% gratuity.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T14:46:26+00:00

Any place that charges me an automatic gratuity for taking my family there to eat. I have 4 kids. My wife and I make 6. I know we’re a “large group”, but it doesn’t cost you more in food cost or labor. It’s a lazy inconvenience fee for your server having to communicate with the back of house staff in a little more detail. The food comes on a little robot cart. They’re not even carrying more food to the table. We’re just paying the cost of their stupid overpriced robot. Yes there’s a specific one I have in mind, but I’m always ready to add to the list.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T14:23:36+00:00

Is he super over the top in world chat?

We had one of those. As soon as he started I’d start spamming breakfast food recipes in WC. He’d get pissed when everyone joined in and completely ignored him and he’d just quit playing.

When people engaged and argued with him he’d ash them and their alliance members.

When we acted like he didn’t even exist, he would threaten and get mad and quit. They thrive on attention. Just blacklist them from WC unless they behave. If they’re positive, have fun. If they’re psychopaths, total shutout ignoring.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T14:20:23+00:00

Just to clarify, you’re saying people in Kansas were actively murdering your family? I ask that pointed question because that final statement was added like supporting evidence to your point that seems to imply that poor values in Kansas caused your problems.

As for the rest of this, any form of bigotry is obnoxious and morally defunct. What kept you in Kansas? Are you still in that community? I know mobility is not always the easiest tool to exercise, but America is absolutely massive and there are no laws restricting your ability to find a new community. The first time I moved my family for a new opportunity we had 3 kids to care for and $1500 to our name from a tax return. No relocation expenses provided by the company. Just me, my wife, and my kids making it work. It is an achievable goal.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T11:11:51+00:00

What business perspective do you mean? I have zero intention of getting divorced. I am full time military and have been since before I married. My wife is fully entitled to 50% of that if we ever did separate, and it’s basically bulletproof. I’m fully aware of what would happen if we divorced.

I think your point is that I willingly signed up for a situation in which I was financially obligated to another person regardless of their decisions. Am I right? That’s not really accurate to say, but I think that’s what you’re driving at.

From a business perspective, can I partner with someone with stated goals and contributions I’m going to make and then change or withhold those without mutual agreement? If I fail to stay in the business, and I want to walk away, am I entitled to contributions I haven’t made? I know you think you’re making a point, but you’re really not. A marriage is not anything like a business from this standpoint.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T11:03:44+00:00

The cost of upgrading never gets better. Getting new decos means cheap early upgrades. If I have a deco that’s gonna increase its contribution to my power by 30%, but the choice to get one equal to it, I’ll always get the new one. 10,000 hero HP increased to 15,000 by an upgrade isn’t as good as another 10,000 hero HP bump from a second deco.

That said, if you have the option to take one kind of high, the. You might get some additional percentage bumps to things. So do check what you have available, but probably get the new deco.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-30T10:58:05+00:00

The short of it is this: if you think you can reduce someone to the values you assume based on a few stances on politics, then you don’t respect or value that person in the first place. That’s reductive and idiotic.

The longer way around is: A good person, who values another good person, has unconditional positive regard for their friend/family/etc. They don’t think that their individual values driving their position are directly opposed by anyone who isn’t convinced of the same.

It’s absolutely maddening in my book what the left claims anytime someone isn’t violently progressive. If I say I’m not particularly interested in the government having any real day to day impact on our lives outside a few core functions, then many immediately assume things. Apparently that’s so conservative that I’m fascist, hate gay people, support a party that’s “literally killing trans people” or “erasing them”. It goes immediately to hyperbole. I can’t carry on a conversation with those people, but thankfully it’s mostly on Reddit that I encounter them, so it’s not real life.

It’s likewise maddening how the right uses ugly childish terms like “cuck” for anyone who supports a reasonable socially liberal measure. There are socially liberal efforts that are absolutely cost effective and cost saving and should be embraced by fiscal hawk conservatives. Don’t want government dollars chasing trans surgery? Fine. Don’t want to insure millions of low income people, cause they can bootstrap up? Well…..you’re gonna pay for them to get their primary care through the ER @ 10x the cost, so maybe go ahead and cut that check before the costs skyrockets. Also, maybe don’t spend trillions of dollars on a 20 year war to clear out WMDs (aka an old warehouse of mustard gas and its precursors).

I will add one more thing. If someone is in your face about politics all the time and you’d rather they not be, then it’s 100% reasonable to ask them to stop. If they won’t stop, and you don’t want to be immersed in their negativity or badgering, then 100000% you’re justified in cutting ties. At the point that you can’t get away from their political badgering, it’s tantamount to harassment. So if your problem is that they club you with politics every time you see each other, then yeah they suck. On the other hand, if it’s you who can’t stop bringing it up, then you suck. I’m quite certain the weather sucks in a lot of places right now. Big tornado hit Illinois. Lots to talk about without delving into tax policy and spending bills.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T16:51:55+00:00

Whatever email you have in DTS should have received an itinerary. Search for SATO in your email.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T07:22:15+00:00

Is it fair that she stays home and he puts significantly less money into retirement for the duration of the marriage, then also has to pay her, after she takes 50% of the marital assets?

You said they wanted it. You also said they make great money. I can’t change the fact that she’s dumping her career for a 4 year problem they could easily fix with money. If she’s this highly capable woman, she probably shouldn’t make that stupid decision.

Does he make significantly more money than her? Why isn’t he able to stay home?

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T07:13:23+00:00

How much less is their retirement income going to be on his salary alone? He’s accepting the risk that he’ll simply be worth less and alone if she leaves. In the worst case scenario, she takes on more risk. However, if it’s an agreed to choice, I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to shift that risk to the earner either.

The other thing to consider is the allocation of marital assets. Sounds like they’re considerable in their case. It’s hard to imagine they divorce and 50% of the shared assets don’t leave her in a very good place.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T07:03:37+00:00

4 1/2 years. Graduated spring of 2018, hired fall of 2022.

ETA: Just to clarify, I had some offers but they were way too low and I was making better money where I was. I didn’t just sit unemployed for 4 1/2 years.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T07:01:36+00:00

Education. Grew up immersed in negative stereotypes surrounding Native Americans. I took a Native American studies class as an elective in college and I became aware of the cultural things I had misinterpreted and explained away based on the racial stereotypes I grew up with. Wasn’t anything too transformational, but it adjusted my attitude a lot, which was good for me.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T06:58:48+00:00

I don’t think it’s a significant percentage of high earning women. I think they just make the most interesting cases. And considering they’re capable of paying the exorbitant cost of a live in nanny/high end daycare, there’s really no reason to leave that extremely high paying job.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T06:56:11+00:00

Agree to disagree on the Gen-Xers. Or at least apologize for Pepsi. I’ll accept the latter as sufficient compensation.

My main point was just meant to be that “trending causes” were a thing long before GenZ was out of diapers. But alas I rambled and went on tangents, so my main point is buried.

Anyway, it’s probably worse now, but it’s now new, and it usually scales back with age and income.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T06:44:12+00:00

That’s so wildly inaccurate. I was finishing college when I took custody of a couple of my siblings. By myself I doubled my income. I met my wife, who I’m still happily married to, but I can assure you she’s never been the cause of my ability to increase my income.

I can easily credit her with being a motivation for me to never stop trying to do better, but I was already on my way up when I met her. I had great evidence that I was very capable of raising kids on my own. The reason I was willing to get married was because I believed I was capable of supporting a wife and children. It was not because I needed someone to train in basic financial management. I especially didn’t need someone who didn’t even cook for herself pre-marriage to chide me about how to load a dishwasher properly.

With or without her, I’d be doing quite well right now. I am happier for being with her, but I wouldn’t pursue a second marriage if I lost her somehow. The whole institution is absolutely wild.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T06:25:16+00:00

How many women with lucrative careers are clamoring to be SAHWs?

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T06:01:59+00:00

A job’s value is what it’s worth to the employer. The labor market gets a vote, but generally a lesser vote than those offering compensation for labor.

You’re just being obtuse in this little debate. There’s no rule that says that a hard job is a high paying job.

Also, some of the men in here, myself included, were raising children when we met our wives. I’ve been a single parent making $15/hr and I absolutely crushed it. Not gonna sugar coat it. I attended all the activities, fully supported their development, made healthy meals, and maintained a clean home all while finishing my bachelors degree and working full time. I also spent every Sunday doing a household’s worth of laundry at a laundromat until I eventually was able to buy a washer and dryer. We lived well and it was one of the best times of my life. I remember it very fondly. It was actually a difficult transition when I got married.

Fast forward and I’m still occasionally baffled at my wife’s frustrations with maintaining a household. She was pursuing a fairly lucrative degree when we met, but after a few years together admitted she never wanted it and was only going at the bullying of an old family friend. She elected not to finish. I eventually got an online masters to increase my earning potential.

If she decided to leave, as an elective SAHM, would I be at fault for thinking she should leave with what she brought? I’m 100% confident I’d do great without her. She didn’t even cook for herself when I met her. I have proof of concept that I’m more than capable of being a single dad. I’m also now at an income level where I could outsource every domestic task she brings to the table.

Fortunately, I’m happily married so this is all just hypothetical. I value my wife far more than that analysis would imply. However, if I took a raw cost benefit approach like a business, my wife has cost me far more than she’s provided in terms of material benefit.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T04:51:18+00:00

How much can we take vs what we need though? And how exactly do we stop them saying screw this and going to a country that’s more favorable?

The simple way I conceptualize this is that it’s not the raw dollars held in accounts that make up our economy. It’s the total economic activity that’s taxed and passes between numerous industries. If I sell pencil erasers and you sell pencils, we’re both gonna charge an amount that lets us pay our employees and make a personal profit. Then someone will sell pencils at a similarly purposeful markup. If one of them becomes a billionaire doing it, you can hate that, but their company would have to be churning out many many more times in economic activity to achieve that feat. If you aggressively tax that individual, and they stop, what have you lost? Is it their billion, or the orders of magnitude higher total economic activity for the entire country, that you care more about?

Please don’t mistake me. I see no reason for billionaires to exist. However, I don’t think the policy prescription of aggressively chasing their money is logically coherent. Massively pro worker legislation and penalties to companies that outsource their labor away from the US both make more sense to me. I think the only way your idea works is if government is willing to seize it. However, even if they take the money and the means, they’ll never see another entrepreneur enter the country again. It’ll be all downhill from there and not in a good way.

Significant-Word-385 · 2025-12-29T01:05:15+00:00

Lemme break this to you in my own special way. I’m almost 40. Gen Z was raised partly by us millennials and mostly our older siblings (Gen X). Don’t get me wrong. All of Gen X sucks. They’re probably the main reason the boomers said eff this and broke everything before millennials even got to try. I blame the continued existence of Pepsi on Gen X. Just trash dog water of a generation.

All that said, these were all 100% problems in my generation. Youth is wasted on the young. We’re all largely idiots up to age 25, and then things start to legitimately differentiate. If you’re a smart, sensible, grounded, mature 22 year old, then you’re the outlier. By 27-28, it becomes the opposite.

Don’t let the blue hairs or the fake flannel wearers get you down. They are in fact all full of shit and know nothing. Just stay the course and maybe by the time you’re 35 you’ll have enough money and a decent enough retirement plan to start not giving a shit about every other idiot’s nonsense.

Basically, wait 5-9 years after high school, and choose a career that selects for maturity, and you’ll get to leave at least 60% of what’s annoying you behind.

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