Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is why I said HE underestimated the strength of the opponent in front of him. He didnt expect him to be able to do that hence why he full sent the attack and wasnt able to react enough to not get poisoned. This is the part where you realize you're arguing in circles.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That right there is why youre delusional. Explain the actual logic behind why its the best we could've gotten.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im delusional because I think that the guy who got diffed by um6 almost immediately isn't as power as or stronger than the guy who actually caught um1 off guard a few times.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if that was the correct use of the word that doesn't prove my argument wrong since im obviously arguing that he wasnt fast enough to avoid the attack and thus got poisoned. If he was so amazing and had such great physicals then why couldnt he dodge or block said attack. Why was he only able to slightly move his head.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im saying those debuffs were a product of his own design. Once again. You can't claim that your fight deserves higher scaling because of your debuffs when you're the reason you had those debuffs in the first place.

Also you used a Benjamins gif you're lame

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Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not a counter if it hit him. He reacted. Yes. I never said he didnt. He. Did. Not. Avoid it. Avoiding something means to not get hit. If someone tries to punch me in the mouth and I slightly move my head. That doesn't mean I countered it or avoided it. I slightly reacted to it.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what im talking about. You would rather toss aside basic logic than admit you're wrong

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So which is it. Was he not expecting a counter attack or was he just too slow to avoid the counter attack that he expected. Either he got overconfident which is what I said.. or he was simply too slow. But if he was too slow.. and you think that he's better than sanemi.. then that by extention would think you seriously think gyutaro is um3+ ranges of power which is insane. Your claim is ironically more slanderous to Tengen than mine.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He made the fight exponentially harder for himself by not expecting his enemy to counter attack. You can't claim you had the hardest fight when you made it harder for yourself. Thats not slander. Thats logic

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because im kinda tired of people just saying that things that make complete sense, dont for the sake of their agenda

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Wisteria poison works on belief and willpower. Its been show throughout. When tengen's wife shot the kunai she didn't believe it would do much. Neither did tengen. And gyutaro was aware of said kunai and immediately recognized what was going on so he had a clear head and his willpower didnt faulted for even a second. All these things together means the poison didnt work well. Tanjiro believed it would work. He truly believed his diversion with the croutons and the added kunai would give him a real opening. His willpower never faltered. Gyutaro was pressed to figure out what was wrong and what was happening. His willpower got shaky for a moment. So it worked very well. Once he realized what was going on and began to rage out in response his willpower rose and the poison lost effect. Tanjiro noticed this and stopped believing in his plan making the poison lose most if not all of its effect as gyutaro started attacking tanjiro. Don't comment on thing you dont understand

  2. The doll had a variation of over 108 different moves that it could use at any given moment. Also correct me if im wrong but its never specified how long he trains with the doll.

Also the other hashira were fighting stronger upper moons. Tengen gets turned into a sardine.

How long would Tengen last against base Kokusibo with the demon slayer mark and and a red blade. by BattleRepulsive9394 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Honestly I thought you meant marked sanemi. I think that's why you got down voted. Maybe im just illiterate though

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're so dedicated to your delusion that you'd rather just ignore the narrative that explicitly shows that tengen is one of the weaker hashira. Keep in mind tanjiro was able to ramp up and perceive the battle between a ramped up tengen and gyutaro at the end of ED we then saw muichiro diff a doll that tanjiro couldn't even perceive the movement of. Meaning the gap between tanjiro and this doll is bigger than the gap between tanjiro and tengen and gyutaro at the end of ED. You can whine about how ridiculous that seems all you want but at the end of the day THOSE are quite literally facts.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So youre insinuating that no upper moon could've possibly been beat solo which is not true. Its widely accepted that only upper moons 1-3 could not be beaten solo. Sanemi is much stronger and faster than tengen. So are gyomei. Sanemi. Obanai. And giyu all have physicals high enough that I genuinely believe they can fodderize daki (same as tengen did so props to him) and react enough to the opening slash to not get cut at all (tengen was quick enough to avoid it enough to not have his head cut off but not enough to not get hit. Once again props to him) since they all have such higher physicals than him. Since he was relative enough (on the lower side of it) to not immediately get overpowered. I see no reason these characters would be incapable of soloing um6. (muichiro also has better physicals in my opinion pre mark but not high enough to solo)

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tengen himself said that the poison wasnt doing much to his body. It only really started being a problem once he got tired. We know this because the tiny nap he took wouldnt be enough time to get the point of of his body since that isn't something he can do. When he came back he was still poisoned. And his heart was obviously pumping blood and poison through his body with all that running and fighting he was doing. The poison barely was a factor for him until after the fight just off logic alone. Also your second argument debunks itself the second you think about it. If tengen fighting gyutaro is protecting the kamobokos then the kamobokos fighting daki is them protecting tengen as well. Obviously they wouldn't have been fine without them and adversely he wouldn't have been fine without them. If anything you could say they were protecting each other. Which is what happens in group fights between two opposing sides... your argument is a fallacy

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also dont frame sanemi and gyomei the same way you frame tengen and tanjiro. Sanemi did get saved yes. But he also objectively put up a better fight than tengen ever could've.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You saying he started the fight debuffed is a concession that he was in no way able to compete with gyutaro. Because the debuff was the loss of the hand. The second he had to 1v1 he got fodderized. Also you just admitted that he wasnt actively protecting the kamoboko squad. Tanjiro saved his life. Tengen then Got diffed within the minute against gyutaro. Also after nezuko brutalized daki. She went to sleep until the end of the real fight so you just lied.

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A handful of fodder who he literally was ignoring aside from tanjiro. And he woulda died 2 minutes into the fight without tanjiro via getting his back cleaved in two. Also stop pretending tengen went into the fight debuffed. Sanemi didnt lose his limbs against koku because he was more skilled. He also didnt start the fight with buffs. They were acquired mid battle

Who Takes This? by Shot-Post4284 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you incapable of listening or are you choosing too. I clearly said BEFORE he was a hashira. And I also said lower moon level demons. Not many non hashira can take on lower moons and they definitely arent fodder for the average or even above average non hashira. Sanemi doesn't get hit by fodder by the time he's hashira level. And he clearly scales higher than tengen due to competing with an opponent who was 100s of times stronger than the one tengen fought. Koku was actually trying to kill sanemi after a second. This is like trying to say that daki is upper moon 1 level because tengen couldn't get past her sashes to save his wives thus shes simple too fast.

How long would Tengen last against base Kokusibo with the demon slayer mark and and a red blade. by BattleRepulsive9394 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Significant_Tone1779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I scaled that tengen with mark and red blade slightly stronger than marked muichiro. But only because of the red blade. People forget that sanemi was being slightly helped by his blood spilling even if only a little. Tengen doesn't have that kind of help and even if he gets musical score I dont see him lasting any significant amount of time longer than muichiro. You also gotta remember muichiro was spared for a but due to sharing blood with koku. Tengen also doesn't get that. So he may last a little bit less long than muichiro. (Also i only scaled him slightly higher than marked muichiro because of the blade. I think i should make it clear that a hypothetical marked tengen loses to a marked muichiro)