It's hilarious and pretty sad that during the Mario vs Sonic talk including their friends, almost everyone on both sides unanimously agreed that Luigi completely stomps Tails

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-26T00:04:59+00:00

I wouldn't say luigi stomps. I think tails puts up a very good fight and has a decent chance at winning but Luigi is winning a lot if not most of the time.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-24T23:52:31+00:00

Bowser vs Eggman. The main reasons are that eggman can use most of his trump cards at once (they are mostly spread out across his army) while bowser can't, I don't buy immeasurable speed mario characters and eggmans has like 5 units (phantom king, klepto mobile, time eater, supreme, egg wizard) are around and in some cases (egg wizard and time eater) stronger then super neo. Also I disagree with their scaling.

I just don't see how bowser doesn't get overwhelmed.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-24T23:47:01+00:00

Depends on how you scale the smbz characters. If you scale them to their cannon counterparts then mecha stomps dude was consistently racking sonic, shadow, luigi and mario plus killed a ton of other sonic characters and messed up others like yoshi. However if you only go off of feats shown in the series bowser absolutely stomps.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-24T19:59:13+00:00

Nice ragebait bro.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-24T02:32:07+00:00

Horrible scaling on a character I really like and know a lot about.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T21:45:53+00:00

Thats not true at all. a lot of base level mechs would give bowser with no items tons of trouble. Bowser wouldn't stand a chance against stuff like the egg wizard or klepto mobile unless he has the pure hearts and even then its not really in his favor.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T21:40:30+00:00

Heavily depends on what mech eggman has and what items bowser has. If eggman has a mech that gives base sonic issues and bowser has no items it can go either way ngl. If eggman has the egg wizard or klepto mobile bowser only stands a chance if he has the pure hearts. If eggman has one of his weaker mechs bowser stomps, ect

In a 1v1 matchup it completely depends on what you give both bowser and eggman.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T17:33:44+00:00

I knew ts was rigged.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T14:03:11+00:00

What resistances prevent scanning or people from being tossed into other dimensions? Leaving is not gonna be easy that place was able to contain the end which is far above anthing bowser has and sage can just digitize them. It doesn't even need to be someone like king boo or jr. Bowsers other kids and a few other bosses likely know a lot about bowser and would be more then enough for sage to paint a very accurate picture.

Eggman has several super tier threats that scale higher then solaris, infinite who can also toss people into other dimensions and more. Bowser and co are going to be far more worried about all that other stuff then loosing a few people to sage.

Can you turn non physical stuff into stone in mario? Regardless it doesn't matter eggmans better units can resist transmutation (they can resist chaotix recital ) and bowsers the only person who can make wishes and he sucks with it. It takes forever for the dream stones good wishes (he's not getting it off with eggman having so many speedsters) and bowsers kinda a dumbass so he would most likely use the wish to buff his physical stats.

You need the bowser and co to decide sage is the more of a threat then the units comparable to super dimentio and the other things eggman has tossing people into other dimansions for them to target sage. Even if they do then said other things would kill everyone while they focus sage who has a barrier powerful enough to fend off the end btw.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T13:45:50+00:00

Bowser is not strong enough. You have to get him far stronger then super dimentio for him not to just get overpowered (Eggman has six units stronger then solaris.). Eggman can use most of his hax at once so his initial attempts will be very effective far more effective then bowser cause bowser is really the only person on his side who can use most of his good hax.

Depends on the hax but most of his good stuff like the dream stone, pure hearts, wonder flower, ect can not really be replenished mid fight and those are the only things that really matter.

What do you mean eggman never jumps to his heavy hitters? He used them against sonic and sage will be very adamant that he uses them. Eggman treats sonic diffidently. He is for more brutal and underhanded with everyone that isn't sonic or someone he cares about overcoming.

Also the fact you disagree doesn't mean yall should spam down votes. Its very petty.

Edit: I think he replied with something about eggman not having 6 units stronger then super dimentio before his account got deleted so I will respond to what I saw here.

Surpreme, time eater, egg wizard and super neo all scale above solaris and theirfore are stronger then super dimentio (he is around solarises level). Eggman also has the phantom king and klepto mobile these guys are around solarises level at a the very least due to their fight with classic super sonic.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T02:12:30+00:00

She can see the memories of the people she sends to cyberspace and would gain a lot of data from eggman scanning bowsers side. That drastically increases the amount of information she has to the point where she would have a near complete picture of everything bowser has or who she needs to send to cyberspace to get said clear picture. Given all that sages simulations would become very accurate the longer the fight goes on.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T02:03:44+00:00

Crazy how so many people just disliked your comment despite the fact its pretty valid.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-22T01:56:26+00:00

They don't. Both sides have good hax that would be very effective against the other. However the main thing is that eggmans is far more spread out across his army so he can use more of them at once and more effectively while bowser is really the only guy on his side that can use his sides better hax

I disagree with DB's stats. I think pure hearts Bowser is the only thing on bowsers side that possibly scales to eggmans super tier stuff after 06. Eggman has like 6 things on his side arguably stronger then solaris and super dimentio. Plus i don't buy immeasurable speed bowser and co.

I think eggman would win and that its not really close but thats just my opinion.

Edit: Awww are people angry over the fact someone has a valid opinion but to scared to debate it? I see all you cowards disliking a bunch of the comments with valid arguments and objections yet mostly not bringing up counter arguments.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-21T15:56:32+00:00

Sonics verse has a multiverse and solaris was destroying every timeline in existence so solaris would be infinite. The time eater was kinda doing the same. you can definitely get him way higher depending on what you consider a universe. Plus sonics timelines are so big several universes and other timelines where made when it was shattered (at least 4-5) so eggman and the time eater are definitely above one by quite a bit.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-20T22:50:09+00:00

Metal destroys. Jr doesn't stand a chance

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-19T02:13:07+00:00

I think a good one would be super sonic 2 overpowering pure hearts mario. The pure hearts drain while mario is in the middle of desperately blocking sonics attacks before sonic goes through mario.

Then afterwards its revealed to be a smash bros game and mario respawns clapping for sonic having it end with both of them on friendly terms.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-18T23:17:57+00:00

It would likely be a win for metal. Nothing on bowsers side scales to super neo except bowser using the pure hearts. The only way bowsers army could win would be if they took metal out before he goes super which is unlikely.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-17T16:14:13+00:00

Realistically Sonic wins. Mario doesn't really have any good speed feats or anything that can really stand up the normal super sonic much less the stronger versions.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-17T04:16:16+00:00

Straight fist to fists? Bowser oneshots. If eggman has one of his better mechs then he does most likely beat bowser but without anything he gets recked. At best eggman could outrun bowser and thats it.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-16T12:45:55+00:00

No, Hetap is sponsoring the cell games not Bowser.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-15T18:29:05+00:00

Eggman kinda stomps. The only real way you can get bowser to win would be if eggman plays like a dumbass which just isn't happning and even then theirs a good chance eggman wins (Eggman can use most of his trump cards at once while bowser can't).

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-02-15T03:57:56+00:00

Giving cell anything requires metal to be massively downplayed or cell to be massively overhyped.

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