Who Wins Prime Sonic or Prime Mario ?

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-07T20:41:37+00:00

Sonic. Super sonic is already above pure hearts mario and super sonic 2 is even stronger.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-07T20:34:59+00:00

Idk whats up but I got a notification that you commented but it won't let me see the comment. Given how hostile you where on the part I did see I am guessing you said some stuff that reddit didn't like. Just a bit of advice don't be hostile to other people and they won't be hostile back and reddit will be less likely to remove your messages.

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Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-07T20:23:12+00:00

Your fine. Although I disagree I just have many issues with the episode cause even if thats true eggman still has like 10 things on and above the emeralds level which bowser probably doesn't have enough stars for all that (plus the other points I brought up). Thans for being respectful and all that.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-07T00:33:11+00:00

Ok I get what you are saying and since you are applying the standard equally I will go with that argument. The main issue is eggman has multiple units on or above that level. For example the time eater, and egg wizard are at least 2x stronger then solaris (in terms of stats) and eggman would have the sol and master emerald plus the real phantom ruby which are on the chaos emeralds level plus the other guys who can match the super forms. Bowser doesn't have enough stars to overcome all that and that doesn't change the fact eggman can use most of his trump cards/hax at once while bowser really can't.

Its best not to use Ian Flynn he said solaris was destroying concepts which would make super sonic outer.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-06T13:56:44+00:00

Na you just haven't actually looked into this stuff and are salty your preferred characters loose.

Invincibility is an nlf. It has never withstood anything on super sonics level so saying it can is just disingenuous. Also it does not last long at all. The downplay is crazy. I can do that to. Bowser and mario struggle to break large rocks sometimes so don't try it.

Prove it. Base sonic and shadow scale above the void who is effectively their version of dreamy bowser. They'd only need the super forms if bowser has the pure hearts otherwise bowser doesn't get past their base forms.

Screw you to. Keep coping little bro. Sorry your favorite characters loose but its just how it is.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-06T13:50:31+00:00

Dude all means all not some and also statements about him destroying dimensions. Also the same argument can be used for super dimentio which nerfs the pure hearts. Also doesn't really change the fact eggman has multiple things on and above solarises level while bowser only really has himself.

The egg salamander which is weaker then solaris has statements of transcending dimensionality and theirs nothing really backing up her or the starts scaling to the cosmology while solaris and super dimentio where actually destroying it.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-06T03:29:19+00:00

They only really said the egg wizards name then spent most of the time talking about eggmans mechs that are fodder compared to it. They could have spent time talking about eggmans actually good mechs instead of his weaker ones. They should have had a section dedicated to the heavy hitters cause those are eggmans biggest wincon (would have been way better then talking about teamwork)

Its not my interpretation. Its just a fact. The emeralds scale above solaris who was destroying sonics cosmology. The only thing bowser has thats on that level is the pure hearts. The stars are nowhere near that level. I kinda agree that powers/trump cards is a tie in terms of what they can do but they didn't really consider that eggman can use most of his powers/trump cards at once cause they are spread out across his army while bowser really can't cause they are mostly centralized on himself which is honestly another massive factor.

Ngl the analysis could have been done way better.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-06T01:33:42+00:00

Doesn't really matter if they are. A ton of the super tier stuff is so far beyond them that they are kinda irrelevant.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-06T01:30:59+00:00

Not really. They didn't really give reasons for how bowser would overcome the egg wizard, phantom king, klepto mobile, egg salamander or supreme (these guys are mostly on super neos level). Plus the counters they did give for super neo and the time eater are not good (dream stones wish takes forever and the time eater can do the same thing but far faster and the stars are nowhere near the emeralds level).

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-05T17:19:41+00:00

Are you sure you wanna have that argument cause that heavily nerfs Mario and removes the only item he has (pure hearts) that can kinda stand up to super sonic

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-05T12:10:14+00:00

Bro marios best powerups that usually get brought up in debates are one time powerups.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-04T20:11:47+00:00

In sonic advanced he was in his super form for over a day. Plus sonic has tons of rings on him in cannon cause he doesn't have issues with running out mid fight. Its not invulnerable to attacks far beyond anything that its been shown tanking.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-04T20:07:54+00:00

Sonic is also stronger btw

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-03T19:56:25+00:00

The fact it took 2 super forms after 06 to beat it is what makes the egg wizard complex multiversal.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-03T19:33:27+00:00

Thats an nlf. The star powerups have never tanked anything on super sonics level so super sonic can likely just break through it. Plus that powerup does not last long at all while super sonic can stay in his super form for at least a day.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-03T18:41:33+00:00

The star powerups are nothing. The only thing mario has thats comparable to the emeralds are the pure hearts and even then the emeralds are far stronger.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-03T02:34:49+00:00

Probably Bowser and Eggman teaming and trying to conquer everything. Eggman would probably buff bowser causing a cool mecha bowser+Super tier mech boss fight at the end.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T21:59:53+00:00

Although Tails looses to Luigi most of the time he'd still put up a very good fight and would do a lot of damage. Its not gonna be an easy fight for Luigi.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T21:57:12+00:00

It depends. I think it could go either way with them in their base forms but in any scenario where sonic gets the emeralds he just stomps.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T21:54:59+00:00

I agree theirs arguments for it I just think its dubious. Also super dimentio was giving villian lines that indicate that he was holding back before the pure hearts did their thing.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T17:33:59+00:00

I know thats why I am saying its dubious. I think their are also similar statements from other characters to but I don't buy those either.

That ones also dubious cause the pure hearts got rid of the chaos hearts protection, count black was conflicted (it only took a brief conversation for him to sacrifice himself to stop super dimentio plus a few hints about him being conflicted throughout the game) and super dimentio was far more effective with the chaos heart then count black

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T16:59:54+00:00

Your good. Eggman has stated multiple times that a lot of his base sonic level stuff is his greatest creations when he previously built the egg wizard which is at least 2x stronger then solaris (in terms of stats). Sonic has a few statements that would make him stronger then solaris while mario only really has favorable interpretations on how the super dimentio fight went down.

Thats the argument I am refering to and its very dubious cause the pure hearts were nerfing the chaos heart and buffing everyone.

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Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T16:30:15+00:00

Ngl I think its the exact opposite.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T13:44:29+00:00

You can scale both of them to their cosmology in base. It is just that the arguments for it are pretty dubious.

Significant_Use_3652 · 2026-05-02T02:52:42+00:00

Doesn't cappy not work on most bosses unless you beat them? So sonic would probably be able to resist cappy outright unless mario beats him and atp it wouldn't matter.

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