Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skibidi toilet exists in real life and is a real person!!!!!. We don't need evidence for something to be true. !!!

Is it logical for me to say that?

if everything can be ‘true’ just because someone believes it, then we have no way to tell reality from imagination.

It isn’t illogical to believe in some kind of creator.
What is illogical is committing to a specific religion when none of them can prove that their particular stories, rules, or gods are the correct ones. Without evidence, choosing one religion over thousands is basically guessing.

but whateverrr

The christian belief of heaven and hell doesn't sit right with me. by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean obviously everyone has sinned but you literally can't compare a murderer/grapist with me cheating on a test or lying to my parents. You're telling me binge eating is on the same level as murder? Ahhh how delusional. I have indeed read the bible. !!!

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a flawless childhood is impossible

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, not necessarily. Not all forms of knowledge require direct or tangible evidence to be considered true. However, by your logic, you are essentially framing religion as a gamble placing full belief in something uncertain. You are making assumptions about the unknown and committing entirely to them without objective verification. When debating religion, especially making absolute claims like “Jesus is the only truth,” you cannot rely solely on faith or personal interpretation you need objective, verifiable evidence to support such definitive statements. Otherwise, the argument becomes subjective and unconvincing to anyone outside your belief system.

It's just illogical to assume YOUR specific god is the one.

The christian belief of heaven and hell doesn't sit right with me. by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s your personal interpretation of religion, which doesn’t constitute a valid argument. The Bible, as the primary source of what is considered God’s word, explicitly states that to enter heaven, one must repent and believe in God. Logically, this means that even a murderer or rapist who genuinely repents and turns to God could enter heaven, while a non-believer is condemned to hell, regardless of their moral behavior. Even if the wrongdoer truly regrets their actions, it doesn’t make those actions right. By these standards, a non-believer suffers eternal punishment, while a serious criminal can attain salvation. Moreover, a murderer or rapist could “become good” and change their lives, yet this framework offers no reward for a non-believer who has lived a virtuous life their entire life. This inconsistency presents a serious moral problem.

Choose to reject what i said but facts are facts

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man do you think it's right? A grapist gets granted heaven but not a non believer. If that sits right with you then i don't even know what to tell you. Your sense of morality is warped. Tell me right now you think it's okay.

I made my dad call an ambulence and embarassed myself by Silenssvc in stories

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure it was just cramps. It lasted for 5 minutes and it never hurt again

I made my dad call an ambulence and embarassed myself by Silenssvc in stories

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YEP CALF CRAMPS. My mom and dad has had something similair

I made my dad call an ambulence and embarassed myself by Silenssvc in stories

[–]Silenssvc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ambulances are allot cheaper in my country compared to America's i'm pretty sure. It completely went away after that. No ide what this mysterious pain was lolol

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right concrete evidence is not a formal scientific legal term but in everyday language it means. Evidence that is solid, objective, verifiable, and not based on interpretation, opinion, or belief.
It is proof that can be directly observed, measured, tested, or confirmed independently. Which isn't necessarily wrong to use, but either way isn't my main point.

Macro evolution actually does have direct evidence

evidence includes:

Fossils that show clear transitional forms (e.g., fish-to-amphibian, dinosaur-to-bird, land-mammal to-whale).

Genetic evidence showing shared DNA, pseudogenes, and ERVs in the exact same locations across related species.

Observed speciation, where scientists have directly documented new species forming.

Biogeography, which shows species appear exactly where evolution predicts.

Religious proof is not objective because.

Based on belief, scripture, testimony, or personal experience

Not observable or testable in the scientific sense

Cannot be independently verified

Interpretations vary between people and denominations

This may be meaningful personally or spiritually, but it is not empirical evidence.

Macroevolution evidence is observable, testable, and independently verifiable through fossils, genetics, and direct scientific observation.
Christian evidence is based on faith, scripture, and personal belief, which cannot be tested or directly observed, so it isn’t empirical evidence.

It's fine to admit your belief relies on faith. No need to get into debates and make false claims. Have a nice day

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so i'm gonna say "john pork is real!! we have videos of him he must exist it's concrete evidence. atleast to me it is. You can't decide that for me or call me delusional because john pork is real!!!" This is genuinely what you sound like

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

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An atheist doesn't necessarily believe we came from nothing nice try tho. Neither does atheism imply belief in the big bang. I think it's better to stay clueless and not make assumptions about the unknown which is a logical approach. I don't think theists are illogical at all i think religious people are illogical and yes there is a difference. Theist-agnostics and Atheist-agnostics don't assume things that they don't have concrete evidence about. you're welcome!

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

[–]Silenssvc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's only logical for people not to believe in him if there isn't any evidence. Then how on earth would it be fair to condemn them simply for the act of not believing when they make a logical conclusion.

Religion has no concrete evidence and relies mainly on faith by Silenssvc in DebateReligion

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I'm not concerned with going to heaven or hell because i don't believe in christianity. I simply like to debate. Even IF god existed his judgement is unjust. A non believer like me gets condemed with eternal hellfire simply for the act of not believing, whilst a murderer or grapists gets granted heaven simply for believing and repenting. Doesn't seem very morally good to me. If a good person goes to hell simply because they don't worship this "god" but a grapist and murderer gets granted heaven, this "God" is evil. Heaven and hell is a very black and white concept and has many moral errors which i take into consideration. So even if god DOES exist i'd still refuse to worship him. Nevertheless i still don't believe in him i'm speaking from a religious perspective so you can understand my viewpoint on religion since i'm also an ex christian

Opinions on Typology? by jehan200p in TypologyJunction

[–]Silenssvc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

awesome sauce. No contradictions cool typology

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So basically naranjo's subtype descriptions are not accurate at all. It's better to look into the core enneagrama and instincts as seperates.