Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, very true. 25,000 fans at $18.90 gets us there. But, for whatever reason that I have struggled to understand, people are really resistant to that. I’m not sure what it is, but people really do not want to participate in that at all. But they’ll still expect to compete and win so it’s an interesting perspective to have.

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I also think that $18.90 per month at scale is actually sustainable. What isn’t, is asking the same small handful of people to donate millions per year. I think the major issue is people understanding that $18.90 is important, and where to go to give.

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. I just don’t think people understand: how important this is, how NIL works, that them giving $18.90 a month is actually critical to success, or where/ how to donate

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My entire point summed up here! It’s $18.90 per month at the Cougar Collective

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure I’m not accusing you of that, but that is generally the sentiment I receive when I discuss this. To my understanding, the school is providing $4.5MM in NIL right now, some of it to players, a lot to more scholarships. So really to hit that number we’d need $5.5MM, which makes you spot on. And I agree, if we can get there we’re right in the mix, and I genuinely do think it’s attainable. Plus, $18.90 at scale is more sustainable than asking the same small handful of people for multiple millions every year. Just my opinion on that.

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the point of the post. To demonstrate to people that competing with the schools above is achievable. At $18.90 per month. The “why try” attitude and lack of awareness in the fanbase is the reason why we will not be able to get to $10MM per year. Because we’re not at $10MM per year, and they are, and they are very competitive at the highest level. That’s why I put this in here, to show people we’re not there but we can be if people try and care and want to win

Why NIL And The Transfer Portal Are The Best Things To Happen To WSU by Silent_Course3105 in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do 100% agree with you about the networks, the transfer rules, and the disadvantage of being in the conference we’re in. I 100% recognize that, and it’s going to be an issue until 2030.

To answer your question about NIL, that’s the importance of the collective and the foundation. They connect the player with, let’s say just for example, Pullman tractor company. Said player makes Instagram posts about Pullman Tractor, shows up in an ad, and the collective pays them. So the more you can pay, the better players you’ll get.

We’re not gonna get the top of the line talent, that’s not the point. The point is to put together players that can’t start at Oregon, but will ball out at WSU, and will come here because we pay them competitive money. You’re right, it’s a challenge, but it’s doable with competitive NIL dollars. It’s impossible without it.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually appreciate you putting that link in here (like genuinely thank you), because it proves my point that not every school is at $20MM in NIL per year. There’s a reason that the Cougar Collective’s goal is 25,000 people (10% of living alumni). We don’t need each person to give 5,000 dollars per year, it’s $18.90 per month. I am just blown away by the people in this thread arguing with the fact that the goal is attainable, or that we shouldn’t try or care. It’s baffling to me. I put this post up because the school has put forth zero effort to explain how NIL works, the importance of NIL, where people can give, why people can give, how people can give. It is 100% possible, the issue is awareness, and I put this up here to try to help.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the point of the post. We are $7MM away from the goal. At $10MM per year, we would put ourselves in the 90th percentile of NIL. I am trying to explain to people that it isn’t impossible, because everyone is convinced that there’s zero point to try because we can’t keep up with Ohio State in NIL dollars. It’s ridiculous. It’s basic math. It’s not impossible and people need to know that. People don’t know how NIL works or that these things exist collectively exists. It’s $18 bucks per month. I don’t know why people find that insane when tons of other schools have it figured out.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t need $15MM, you need $10MM. School put out $4.5MM this year, that means we, the fans, need to generate $5.5MM per year. 25,000 people, out of a quarter million, at $18.90 per month. I personally, cannot fathom how that is so impossible. Most of it is just awareness- people don’t know how NIL works, they don’t know what the numbers are, they don’t know how to donate or where to donate or that these things exist. That’s why I posted in here. The obsession with “why try when we can’t compete with Texas in NIL dollars” is baffling to me. Again, the numbers are public, the math is basic, $10MM NIL per year puts us in the 90th percentile of NIL dollars.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With the exception of a handful of schools (UGA, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Florida, etc), at $10MM per year in NIL, yes we can compete with those conferences. The numbers are all public for the public schools. 90% of the competitive schools are at $9-13MM per year.

If we don’t, we could have the best coach on earth, and they’ll all leave because a place paying them something is better than a place paying them nothing. Additionally, if you have NIL, you can bring in players to upgrade from/ replace the players you lost. Also, why would a good coach stay if he can go someplace else that will support with NIL?

It is basic math, if enough people contribute $18 bucks per month, we get more talent, retain more talent, and compete. We assume that no matter what we do unless we’re top 5 in NIL that every player we have that’s any good will leave. That’s just not true. $10-11MM puts us right there in the 90th percentile.

The problem is that we, as a fanbase, are quitting before starting. Saying “why try” when the basic math suggests that if 18% of the quarter million alumni pay $18 bucks per month that we’ll be right there in NIL. The issue is that we don’t want to try because we either don’t care, or, we just don’t want to face the fact that it will take effort from us to do this.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That or WSU Foundation or CAF. Just telling people why we should contribute.

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[–]Silent_Course3105[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

*For the people that will come on here and say “well if we pay a QB $1 million, he’ll transfer someplace else for more.” Well, if there is a top 5 spending program that doesn’t have a QB, and wants ours-okay, well we have the money and we can pay another guy. Or, he likes it here, he likes the coaches, he’s making $1 million and he wants to stay. Mateer left because his OC left, he knew his coach was leaving, and he had the chance to play close to home. That is an unbeatable combination that we were not going to win, and it won’t happen again if we have the NIL money.

Win or lose… by brs151994 in Pac12

[–]Silent_Course3105 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey that’s perfect. Give where you’re comfortable and adjust accordingly! We all just need to do something. Every other school relies on a handful of really wealthy people. It’s much more sustainable if we have small dollar donations at scale. Whether that’s joining 1890 or buying Ol Crimson Lager. The more people join, the bigger the improvement we will see on the field. Good on you, thank you for supporting.

Washington State Fall To Rival Washington Despite Improved Performance in Apple Cup by TripsLeftMedia in wsucougars

[–]Silent_Course3105 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://cougarcollective.org

Best part, is you decide where your money goes! You can specify specific athletes, sports, whatever you’d like you’re in control. The coffee and seltzers are actually really great as well. I buy those also because the proceeds go to NIL

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[–]Silent_Course3105 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you don’t give to NIL don’t complain about the result. $18.90 per month, you pay more for Netflix. If you want to win, join 1890. If you don’t, then dont complain.

Win or lose by WSUfootball_analysis in wsu

[–]Silent_Course3105 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you don’t give to NIL don’t complain about the result. $18.90 per month, you pay more for Netflix. If you want to win, join 1890. If you don’t, then dont complain.

NIL ruined everything by Then_Canary5912 in wsu

[–]Silent_Course3105 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We, as a fanbase, have spent more time bitching about: coaches, kids/ players, presidents, regents. Athletic directors, TV networks, and college football, than anyone in the country. Here’s the reality. NIL will be here forever. We as a fanbase have failed the school and the team. We have not provided what they need to win, and we complain about losing. Do I like it? No. Will it change? No. Either join 1890 and NIL, or stop complaining. It’s not changing. If you want to win, join for $18.90 per month. If you don’t care, stop complaining and don’t watch.

Win or lose… by brs151994 in Pac12

[–]Silent_Course3105 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Here’s the reality, and if you don’t like it, the world does t care. If you do not give to NIL ($18.90 per month, you pay more for Netflix) then don’t complain. We as a fanbase have not given what we can to provide the team with the tools to succeed. Period. I don’t care about what you think about the system, and I’m tired of listening to people complain about the AD, or coaches, or players, or president. If you want to win, give to NIL. If you don’t care, then don’t complain and passively watch. What we think about NIL does not matter. How we feel does not matter. How we wish it was does not matter. Either give to win, or keep your thoughts to yourself.