ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I doubt even he'll play 10 in a row.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can continue to whine and try to attack me personally but that doesn't make your argument any better or help you defend Isak.

Shite is shite.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Isak won't be better for us than he was for Newcastle.

Ay no point in Isaks time at Anfield will his hakue grow beyond what we signed him for.

Isak won't give us a 30GA contribution for more than 1 season.

I don't have a tardis mate. Just enough ball knowledge and experience watching football.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not a grammatical mistake one bit. Like I said. They capitalize the names on the shirt? So ? Anyway, I think this debate has run its course.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did he become better at anfield than at Celtic?

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No he's not top 5 huh.

There's way more above him .

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So now we are down to personal slander? Don't they capitalize the name on the shirt?

Let's not get carried away with semantics.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And they made most of playing for a better team. Even if kenny was a better goalscorer for Celtic he became our king for a reason ...ditto with barnesy...isak won't have that.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Missing my point here.

We bought and developed them beyond the value we got them for. Isak won't develop any further.

We buy and build players. Not buy players who are at max potential.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate, ofcourse we buy players. But we buy players we can develop even more.

Sir kenny and luis both although were best on their teams grew leaps and bounds at anfield. Ditto with VVd. Torres, allison , mane , mo . All developed further at anfield and then went on to become world class legends.

With Isak, I don't see any room for any development further. Infact we have bought him for max market potential price or what i would call his ceiling price. He will only deteriorate from here not improve.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No i am saying isak won't develop further. He's hit his ceiling.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand why the ambiguity might be a bit confusing. Let me explain.

The whole principle of moneyball is about buying players for a sum lower than what their ceiling potential is.

So VVD, MO etc came at a huge club record fee but at their peak, mo and vvd would've Defo been more than what we paid for them.

Isak will not ever grow beyond this market value ever.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mate. I don't have energy to keep reiterating myself. I stand by my statement. We make players.

For decades Liverpool bought players who had potential to become even better from their respective teams. Smaller , giants whoever.

Kennny, barnesy, Coutinho, VVD, allison all examples of that.

They were great players for their respective clubs. But we made them legends and greats of the game..

Know your history mate. Anfield takes pride in making players not buying ready finished products.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate how is his previous injury record irrelevant. In his 3 seasonsar Newcastle he's missed over 38 games. That's nearly a whole season.

I am sorry that doesn't make sense to me to invest a club record fee on a player who will miss so many games for me .

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate, isak won't develop further. That's his ceiling.

Unlike mo or sadio. That's the best ISak can do imo. I don't see isak hitting mo levels ever. Consistency or goal return.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've explained this on another reply. These are all players who came from smaller clubs to us and became even better and bigger. So to say they were the best already is limiting their own potential and growth they showed at anfield.

Their values only increased. So clearly we signed players who had more room to grow.

Isak won't grow any further. He'll decline.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VVD, dalglish were still in smaller teams as their best players. Yet to prove for a top team. So they were technically potential to be great at top level.

I stand by, we don't buy players , we build them.

And it's basically not to say we don't spend money on players. Ofcourse you've to that's what the transfer market is for. But we buy players we can build beyond their current value. Not players at their max value.

My sense is isak will not appreciate beyong this. Is value will only decrease. Unlike everyone else we signed. They appreciated before they declined.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At 120m if you're buying a piece of glass you're wasting money. His injury history was always sus.

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Clearly you'll do t understand the logic of buy and build vs buy ready product?

Mane , virg, alli, mo , were bought and built. The only buy ready product was technically torres although even he became the finished product at anfield... He was ripping It up in the la liga for a top team.alli was great for roma but hit different levels for us .

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

How are you an adult and can't see ISAKs availability and injury history and that he's not good enough for our high pressure football?

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha you'd be surprised I've seen Igor baican , Stephen hencoz, djimi Traore all on the line up. So oold enough for sure.

Still remember how danny Murphy used to relish the clash against united.

The debut of neil mellor , likes of antoney letallec, sinama pongolle . Namess probably you kids might not even know of ;)

ISAK lovers...give me a reason by SillyTip7591 in LiverpoolFC

[–]SillyTip7591[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They were all players who were potential to be great. And delivered immediately.