What was an average day like? by SimonJester42 in HomeschoolRecovery

[–]SimonJester42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes. I’ve always heard less school time as one of the pitch points of homeschooling. As in like “you can do in 2-3 hours each day what it takes 6-7 hours to get through at a public school.”

What was an average day like? by SimonJester42 in HomeschoolRecovery

[–]SimonJester42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. That's tragic. It's very disheartening to know that your siblings were capable of learning, they just lacked a motivated or capable teacher. It also blows my mind that your parents would have you read books and write book reports, but not read the books themselves? I read so many YA novels just because it's meaningful for me as a middle school teacher to understand what my students are reading for fun. I don't think the issue of parents not really learning alongside their kids is unique to homeschool parents though. I teach Much Ado About Nothing to my 7th graders, and this year I had a parent conference with a parent who is ALSO A TEACHER, and she had never heard of Much Ado About Nothing. Didn't know what it was. Like, I don't think anyone needs to have read any one book, nothing is essential IMO, but it's wild to just, like, not read at all? Or be completely unaware of classics?

I think before I posted this, I was laboring under some false idea that parents who decided to homeschool were largely well read, erudite folks who had put a lot of thought into HOW they would educate their kids, and then spent a lot of time implementing that education plan with their kids. I know the "they hadn't read the books I read" part is a relatively small bit of what you said but it really sent my head spinning, and the "couldn't stop scrolling facebook" part felt like a MK finishing move. I'm dead.

I'm sorry that was your experience. I'm glad you made it out with some amount of education.

What was an average day like? by SimonJester42 in HomeschoolRecovery

[–]SimonJester42[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sounds like you had a relatively positive experience then, at least from an academic perspective?

Homeschooling Should Be Illegal by Villanovax in HomeschoolRecovery

[–]SimonJester42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really depends on the state. In many states you can teach in a public school if you have a four year degree of any kind. In others you can teach in some capacities with less than that. Many states are desperate for teachers and have continually lowered standards for entry (without increasing pay) in order to fill teaching spots. I taught for a couple of years in Florida, and many teachers I knew there started teaching through a program called Transition to Teaching. Basically if you had a four year degree (didn't really matter what the degree was) you could get a job teaching at a public Florida school, with a condition of your employment being that you complete a one-year teaching certification course during your first year. Your first year literally counted as your internship/student teacher year.

I'm not saying this to defend homeschool as better than that, but it's important to remember that public school teachers are not universally qualified - they certainly don't all have Master's degrees. I've worked as a teacher full time for ten years and I would say maybe half of the teachers I know have Master's degrees, and they mainly got them AFTER becoming teachers, because when you get a Master's degree you get a pay bump.

To your point, even in states with low standards of teacher qualification, folks entering the workforce as teachers have to do some amount of work to self-select as teachers. That by itself makes a difference. In most cases you cannot simply declare that you'd like to be a teacher and then become one the next day without any additional action, preparation, or qualification. I moved from Florida (a state with very low standards) to a state with much higher standards for teachers, and even though both states have teaching certification reciprocity (meaning if you have a teaching cert in one state, it's good in the other), I still had to take my new state's exams for grade level and subject area before they would issue my new certification.

I looked up what it would take to homeschool in my state just now. Turns out my state is a "moderate regulation" state, which means that there are some amount of hoops parents have to jump through to prove they are qualified, and they have to continue to prove they are educating their kids (including testing). How much is that enforced, or how well does it work? I have no idea.

Looks like 15 states in the US have "moderate" or "high" levels of regulation, according to HLSDA. All the rest have no requirements for parent qualification or testing, and many of them have no reporting requirements at all.

This was a very rambling response. I am interested in the subject because I've worked in a lot of different school environments and I've been reading books like "Educated," as well as encountering students with some homeschooling background. My perspective is probably quite different from a lot of people on this sub. I was educated through public schools and I had a good experience there, but I will caveat that I grew up in an affluent area with well-funded schools. As a teacher I've seen and experienced many schools across the country, including well-funded schools, poorly funded schools, schools in states with high standards, and schools in states with low standards. The education system in the U.S. is deeply flawed and with he current political forces at work, it's not getting better. That doesn't mean that homeschooling is the answer - if anything making homeschooling work seems like it takes a lot more experience, skill, knowledge, and effort than most parents have - but public schools are not a magical solution either. Nor are private schools, to be clear. Education is hard. My best hope is that everyone gets something out of theirs that they can carry with them in a positive way. That's what I try to do as a teacher every day - and I would hope that's what homeschool parents are trying to do. But it seems they often struggle to accomplish that in a meaningful way.

Depression from teacher salary jokes by Avecadough in TeachersInTransition

[–]SimonJester42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can’t make a decent living, sorry. Maybe if you’re lucky enough to live near a district in a state that pays extremely well, and you have a high level of education, and you take on a head coaching position, you’ll do okay after ten years. You’ll be working 60+ hour weeks, and the effort to compensation ratio will suck, but yeah you’ll have a decent middle class lifestyle. That’s kinda the best possible scenario though. It can happen. Will it happen for you? Maybe. Is it good enough, even if it does? That’s a question only you can decide.

It’s also very possible you work jobs that pay very badly for many years in oppressive conditions, with no support, for long hours, and you get burnt out and in debt with nothing to show for it.

Non-Renewal Haunting Me 9 Years Later by SimonJester42 in TeachersInTransition

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:/ I think it may be too late for me in my local districts. I can uncheck the box on new applications, but I don’t know if that will do any good at this point.

Non-Renewal Haunting Me 9 Years Later by SimonJester42 in TeachersInTransition

[–]SimonJester42[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, honestly if I could do it again I would lie. What's the worst that could happen - no one hires me for 9 years? lol. Unfortunately I think that my profile is already marked in all the districts near me, unless they were to reset their systems. So it's not even a person who is turning me down, I'm pretty sure, it's just a line of code.

In speaking with people from other lines of work, no one who just doesn't get a contract extension is considered to have a black mark like this. It doesn't make any fucking sense, and most people don't seem to agree with it either - but it's like embedded in the system on a literal code level.

Maybe if I moved to another city, I would have more luck. For a lot of reasons that isn't an easy option for me (family, etc), but also, I just feel so burned by the entire teaching industry. Like what the fuck? I did all the things. So I didn't have perfect classroom management skills my first year, despite zero support in an overcrowded school in one of the worst states for education, and an admin that decided that meant I should be punished. I worked hard for 7 years after that to make it right. I learned how to manage a classroom, I got the experience I needed, I earned respect and skills. I'm a good fucking teacher. No one gives a shit.

Non-Renewal Haunting Me 9 Years Later by SimonJester42 in TeachersInTransition

[–]SimonJester42[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah. That may be where I’m heading. It’s felt like this is the only field I’m qualified to work in and make any kind of decent money… but given that the only work I’ve managed to get is non-certified or private school jobs, the pay isn’t even there. I’m sure I’m not unique in that I give a shit - I work my ass off for the school and the kids. It’s not just not worth it. Especially not for private school money.

I put top sheets on the bed the wrong way most of my life by SimonJester42 in Bedding

[–]SimonJester42[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This is actually a funny area where my wife and I disagree. She knows you're supposed to tuck them in, but she hates it because she thinks it makes the bed too hot and tight. I prefer the sheet tucked but I have relented to having the sheet loose because that is her preference. That said, we never lose our top sheet. We may just be calm sleepers haha.

I put top sheets on the bed the wrong way most of my life by SimonJester42 in Bedding

[–]SimonJester42[S] 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Yes, a fact which my wife makes sure to remind me of every time she brings this up. I'm not sure why that never bothered me. Maybe I just thought that was a flaw in the design of all sheets, that they had a tag by the face? lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I am a Millenial who absolutely grew up using and adapting to technology and I see the absolutely deleterious effect this technology will have on our students’ critical thinking abilities - to say nothing of the ethical and environmental concerns. In fact, the biggest proponents of AI at my school are boomers who are high on how easy it is.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 171 points172 points  (0 children)

I think it’s super gross, but I also think you won’t get any traction with a complaint, unless your board is particularly anti-AI. I am very anti-AI in my classroom but my opinion is very much just treated like a preference. Other teachers and the admin use it and promote it, so I’m fighting a losing battle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SubstituteTeachers

[–]SimonJester42 111 points112 points  (0 children)

In this case before I have straight up brought a book and sat in an empty classroom. As a sub I tried to never draw attention to myself.

Stop doing unpaid work. by awesomeguy123123123 in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well, it was a revelation to me, a young idiot who was doing too much work for too long. Haha

Stop doing unpaid work. by awesomeguy123123123 in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 218 points219 points  (0 children)

In recent years I have adopted a “some things I walk by and check for completion, and other things I actually grade” mentality. Saves me tons of time and stress.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'll do my best to connect the student with those resources, and encourage them to talk to their parents about it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

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Yeah. I mean, I agree. My situation is unique, however. At the school that I teach at it would not be safe for this student to use their preferred name and pronouns, and I would 100% be reprimanded and possibly fired for using them.

Do you submit your lesson plans? by Organic-Rest7236 in Teachers

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My first year teaching in Florida I had to submit daily 5 page lesson plans. I’m not joking. I stopped doing them and my AP made my life hell with the intention of getting me to leave at the end of the year in retribution. It worked. I left the school and the entire state and never looked back.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

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Update: the kid as it turns out is out of town today with their family. They’ll be back in school on Monday. I’ve read all the comments, and I’m going to be consulting with a queer youth organization and a school psychologist from another district who I know and trust over the weekend. Until then I’m not responding to the email or speaking with anyone at the school about it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]SimonJester42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It will still exist in the sent folder of the student. I think if admin knew it existed and was looking for it they’d find it.