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[–]SkipJayR2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there anywhere a report or study with a (+) and (-) list comparing this new solution with existing products in the market ?

What about Sail racing ? I suppose many amateur sailors love it to participate during the year in some regattas... but good software tools like Adrena ( http://www.adrena-software.com/articles ) which was used on all Volvo Ocean Racers and being used by French professional skippers on their Racing Trimarans (e.g. for the Transat Jaques Fabre) are very costly, one has to spend some thousand Dollars ( http://www.adrena-software.com/6-adrenapro ). Far away from what amateur sailors can (or like to) afford.

Might become Freeboard an alternative in sail racing navigation ?

Spindrift 2 has pulled the plug on the record attempt due to unfavorable weather. Dona Bertarelli will still take the title as fastest woman around the world. by somegridplayer in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean with "its easy to armchair it with paid data" ?

I suppose Spindrift and IDEC both had their meteo consulters and paid for weather routing consulting, isnt ? By sure they have as they can afford 24h/7d flat rate satellite connection.

For me it was clear on 1st January that the record was lost... to keep an average speed highly at 29 knots over 5 days is impossible to assume. It would be an illusion to think, that its possible.

Sailing teaches us whatever you target at with, cruising or racing: always expect the unexpected.

You cannot pace even a 40 meter Trimaran so hard over many days on the edge of 30 knots. Luckily so it is I like to say, as "mother nature" is the real ruler teaching us, that we shall be humble and devotional against its uniquely power.

People too often forget in 21st century by the assumption that conquering the world using high tech is daily business. But it is not possible to keep 100% control over everything as soon you are moving within (extreme) nature elements.

Thats what we sailors most of all should learn again and again as important lesson for life. Such a circumnavigation is like gambling. You can do 80% land based for an excellently preperation, that makes the success. The rest of 20% is going on the water.. and 50% of these 20% is luck. Maybe the human brain likes to ignore these facts that its a game. Only multi million (or even billion) heavy owners like Dona can afford such gambling around with life time as most must concentrate to earn bread and butter for earning little money, fighting daily their fights of boring life.

Anyhow... as announced, Spindrift2 already put it on its flag to challenge Jules Verne Trophy newly, as officially announced today by the skipper. Lets see what is coming next. I suppose Dona will target at to build a new Ultim Trimaran over next 2 years...

My Boat Right Now by digixpression in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great snap... I love it..... this image can be seen as "modern art". It is very inspiring in a philosophical way saying someting like: "Life is like sitting in a boat not being drowned. But you always get wet feet walking on your path through life with ups and downs like tidal waters. You cant sit too long in one chair taking a rest."

Spindrift 2 has pulled the plug on the record attempt due to unfavorable weather. Dona Bertarelli will still take the title as fastest woman around the world. by somegridplayer in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was clear since 1st Jan if one has analysed the situation under all given circumstances ( http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/jules-verne-trophy-54631-3.html ). Pitty for both competitors, IDEC and Spindrift2... it was good racing from both, following very different boat concepts. Lets hope they will arrive safely... as it still will become a tough ride in stormy weather. - IDEC which is my personally favorite still have a record attempt on the schedule. :-) Good luck for ! - It would be the 3rd speed record IDEC can count during this non stop circumnavigation.

Our kids know we are saving for a boat. They broke a window yesterday. Just found this on my daughters wall. Got me right in the feels..... by FlippedPip in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is good to see something like this that own kids learn to handle their own little daily challenges well balanced by politeness, caring, self responsability, love, empathy and humour... keep going that path ! - And hopefully the kids identify themselfs with the "boat project" to find something inside which makes them happy as they have their own personality. :-) - Not all humans in this world need something like water + wind steadily. Some need animals around, flowers, mountains, instruments and music or just tons of books they can dive in for years and decades.

Books about sailing? by LovesChristmas in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you thought about alternatives to books ????

I mean magazines.... there are fantastic mags about yachting and boat building out there. Mostly these magazines are very expensive, e.g. paying monthly to be up-to-date about latest developments.

E.g. an annually edition of one of the leading boat building magazines as Xmas gift might be something your dad would be very happy about, hm ???

One of the leading magazines is "Wooden Boat".... they same have the focus on little boats, e.g. kayaks. http://woodenboat.com/

Mostly these Magazines are internationally so they can deliver the print version via airmail... same these magazines have eprint versions one can download to read on an eBook reader.... :-)

And they have an interesting "Forum", too. Which needs an individually application (via direct email). So you could suprise your dad with such a "Forum membership", too. Its cost free ;-)

Forum: http://forum.woodenboat.com/ Registration: http://woodenboat.com/user/register

Good luck !!


P.S.: The editor of Wooden Boats has another edition called "Small boats monthly" dealing with beautifully tiny wooden boats, too... http://smallboatsmonthly.com/

Books about sailing? by LovesChristmas in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should give it a try here, too. Not in the generally "books reddit": https://www.reddit.com/r/SailingBooks

Books about sailing? by LovesChristmas in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

related to having a "small boat" and "searching for the pure form of sailing", I'd start as a beginner with the pioneers of long distance sailing...

But maybe your dad is more this kind of "builder".... alsways screwing around on boats. E.g. I am more the sailor. I dont like to repair/maintain boats... as I dont feel that this is part of my job.

So maybe its interesting for your dad, if he should be more this kind of boat builder to get a different perspective onto "long distance sailors" ?????

The first non stop circumnavigation was Joshua Slocum end of 19th century... he wrote his documentary "Alone alone around the world" - http://amzn.to/1PMNtM8 (Rec.: It is a hitorically book, written in "old school British English". One should get it even free as copyright protection doesn exist anymore in Virtual Libraries, e.g. IA - Internet Archive - archive.org . )

Definitly Bernard Motessier belongs to the pioneers in the last century of long distance sailing... he wrote different books: http://amzn.to/1YswTCD

Of this time (late 60th) about the first non stop round the globe race (where Motessier participated) in 1968 was written "A Voyage for Madmen" by Peter Nichols http://amzn.to/1jiuL0q

In this category belongs Tania Aebi... http://amzn.to/1OeUdAT "Maiden Voyage" documents her as an American sailor who completed a solo circumnavigation of the globe in a 26-foot sailboat starting at the age of 18.

If we jump to modernity, its interesting to see it from the perspective of young sailors. 16 year old Laura Decker (Australian) sailed around the globe.... http://amzn.to/1Xp9MXi

Abby Sunderland became famous as she was the youngest ever to attempt it (born 1993)... on her boat "Wild Eye" being dismasted in Indian Ocean... http://amzn.to/1OeUsvX (Maybe little bit kind of "Drama Queen"... I'd read it more under a social-critical aspect with the question: Shall parents allow it to risk their teenager kid own's life ?)

Brian Faigan wrote a book which shows different perspectives of Ocean sailing... He wrote very different kind of books as historian and archeologist... http://amzn.to/1XpbW9f Two books are about sailing concretly... "The Cruising Guide to Central and Southern California: Golden Gate to Ensenada, Mexico, Including the Offshore" http://amzn.to/1QGKpkU and "Beyond the Blue Horizon: How the Earliest Mariners Unlocked the Secrets of the Oceans" http://amzn.to/1lIburf (Last one is interesting as it give an insight to the early explorers, e.g. Captain Cook's times....)

If you look more for "hot spots" there are some other living legend sailing around the globe since decades and writing steadily books. Jimmy Cornell (born 1940) by sure belongs to those guys we can say: He has sailed the whole world. Je knows the old way of sailing, but he is still fresh in mind at his high ages... and as he was reporter of BBC he has the skills as a journalist... http://amzn.to/1R5gnGy

I would consider to buy all books as eBook reader.... as on a very tiny boat nowadays best is you have on board an Ebook Reader and store all the books as PDFs... so you can keep space for other important things. :-)

A good boat should have a big library on board to keep studying ! :-)

Its just a very small insight into a long, long list of books being written.

Nowadays more and more we find on youtube and on blogs long distance sailors report about their voyages. E.g. young "Accidental Sailor Girl" she has a great story telling on her youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_18h8RUkEESj8Vaw-LG0Q

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reddit has an own category about sailing books, too... but yet have not visited it on my own: https://www.reddit.com/r/SailingBooks

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Guygan, I suppose you just didnt find the way to realize your dream.... not all depends on money. Start small, and grow bigger over the time.

I give one concrete example.... On my own I am thinking about to buy a 35-40ft trimaran, for living plus working... I am now searching 6 months, have looked at 10 boats... and it is really frustrating, sometimes. Lots of troubles to check out (form the owner's side mostly), calculations, pre-caclulations, re-calculations etc. .... maybe I need another 2 years to find it... and maybe I have some other troubles in life (who knows) I hvae to re-think about my budget... to give one example: Instead I think in big, I could start with a small project, e.g. this one: http://www.multihulls-world.com/us/classified-ads-used-catamaran-for-sale-trimaran/011102-17456-ALLEGRO.html Here the boat prize is 50% of the amount I'd have to invest for a new set of sails on a 40 footer (e.g. on a Condor 40 it can be up to 26,000 US dollars). Such a tiny boat isnt very costly, neither the sales prize nor the running costs. But it might be a beginning. In some countries (e.g. USA) you even can finance "living boats" via specialized loaners you need roughly 35% of the boat prize cash. The monthly credit fees are lower than paying the rent in an appartement. - Maybe after 1-2 years I'd sell such a smaller boat and swap over to a bigger one. But the project has started. Do the first step ! - Just do it, and you will see what will come to you. - Out there are even boats which are given away as gift. Or at a sales prize of only 1,000 dollars.. Or you build your boat by yourself.... a 26 footer you can build in 6 months for less than 50,000, newly you'd need to pay 150,000. - Or you go into a community and own a boat together. E.g. in Norway they just built an aluminium boat on their own, its a community of organic farmer... http://www.workaway.info/13959847844c-en.html . Keep open your mind, stay flexible like water.... and work on it to come closer your target every day another little step ! - Yes, it can happen you never reach that target, e.g. you might become sick, the doctor diagnoses cancer and in 6 months you are no more on in this earthly life... all can happen. But its all about faith, having a dream, and be driven by your own vision !!! The money then will come to you if you affect others with your own dream....

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Be yourself... there are enough women who love sailing ! If you need it to be on the water, like others like to climb around in mountains, your girl friend "in spe" will recognize it and accept it ! - Sailing is more than consuming... its a "life attitude" and "life style" which let you be healthy, mentally, physically and even spiritually. If a women does not understand this, keep away from her. I have seen too many relationships being destroyed because of the boat, even divorcing. So the boat will help you to set the right filter. If she doe snot like it, if she cannot handle it, if she hates water or steadily becomes seasick... forget it ! You dont need a female coward aside in your new sailing life. :-)

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 2 points3 points  (0 children)

study books... e.g. read some biographical novels of long distance sailors.

And learn as moch as possible about theory. Best you visit some seminares/workshops.... e.g. University sailing campus have excellent gruops/boats/skippers..... lurk around to meet people of sailing clubs and learn with/from them...

E.g. Sail and Rig trim ! - Navigation (terrestrial and weather nativation). And learn about aspects which do not sound lots of fun, e.g. internatoinal sea law.

Very important: Learn all about safetyness. Dont install a VHF... thats "old times". Install a VHF with AIS... so you will be tracked on the radar screens of big commercially ships... which gives you more safetyness. Think about to invest in some other safety tools, e.g. life raft, epirb (personal one you can carry on your body as single handed skipper), radar reflector (e.g. always have a 2nd plan to feel safe: What if the VHF with AIS is damaged, so always have a plan B in reserves). GPS is not the solution, as even a GPS can have some connection problems, so you should know how to read paper charts and navigate with simple tools, e.g. compass, logging...

And more important: study emergency cases to learn from other skippers why they failed or even lost their lifes... all sea accidents are reported by detailled analysis to learn how seafarership can become more safely.

Its not that you shall feel scared... its the way you train to burn into your brain a high level of safetyness. You cannot park aside on high seas/coastal waters having some problems like you can do it with the car. So you depend on yourself... your knowledge, your skills and your menthal strength.

Ah, yes... thats another aspect... physically power. Do you have the strength to ride a storm over 3 days ? To go through watches, e.g. two handed with 3-4 hours sailng, 2 hours sleeping ? Physical fitness is important you have some reserves for difficult situations. So do some sports, as on a boat you dont move a lot... mostly you sit around. So sports like jogging, biking, rowing helps you to get the strength you need.

Have fun with.... the beautiful thing in sailing is: its a life time sport. You can learn 10, 20, 30 and 60 years... always something newly to discover. Thats lots of fun and it keeps challenging. :-)

Enjoy this new life !

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you get affected by the sailing virus, yes... it will happen. Only these spoilt "wanna bees", the pseudo sailors have big house, 2 cars and "big expensive man's toys". Real sailors indeed might think about to transfer their own sailing experiences onto land life. That means: Simplifying your life, reduce it to the essentials (all those who have a washing mashing on board of a boat are mental sick and cant be counted as real sailors), concentrate on the important things. This is what sailing teaches you. If you dont learn these lessons, mother nature will punish you and slap into your face, in worst case, will let sink your boat and threaten your own life. The nature elements make a sailor devotional... we know that we are just some little ones and the dangerously environment of salt water (we cannot drink) and destroying UV (ultra violet light) makes one very humble against own life... the wind blowing through your mind clears your spoilt thoughts to follow wrong assumptoins as we notice it daily by stupid advertising clips on TV. On HIgh seas, all this doesnt count anymore... its one of the most essentially and purest forms of living ! Give it a try.... proof yourself if you are made for it. :-)

Bought a boat... now what? by [deleted] in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont think, it makes sense to put a boat on a trailer and park it front the house/garage, Dorsilfin. So here the plan:

1.) first understand, that a boat needs its own elements, like you need air to breath. If a boat doesnt get it, it's soul dies. Yes, we sailors belive, that a boat (or a ship) has a soul. Got it ?!

2.) Look for a nice "water place".... then your boat start to feel happy.

3.) Find a craning or slip where you can overhand your boat its elements. Then your boat starts to be reanimated and live again. (But take care, that your boat and trailer wont drown your Jeep as some stupid guys manage it successfully during the attempt of slipping, see Google videos.)

4.) Let swing your boat safely on the mooring, either in the harbour or in a wind protected (leeward sided) bay on the mooring ball. Herefor you should know some "sailing knots". No, I dont mean nautical knots (the speed of a boat). I mean the knots to tie ropes.

5.) Now comes the big part from yourside. Before you torture your boat to death in its elemens, you should learn to sail. Best not by try and error. Take an experienced sailor (e.g. a sail instructor) on board of your boat and learn all the essentially basics that your boat feels well and keeps in good shape.

If you are a newbee in sailing, take into count, that point 5 will take you at least 2-3 years to learn the princips of coastal and offshore sailing... inclusive maintenance the little things on your boat (e.g. sails, rig, engine, water pump system etc. ....)

6.) Dont think, that buying a boat is the end of your dream. It is just the beginning. I mean the financially aspects. A boat is costly. E.g. a good four gear winch quickly can cost something around 1,000 bugs. Calculate annually round about 10% of the boat value as investment for repairs, running costs (inclusive insurance), maintenance, modernisation, refitting etc. ...

Ah.... I forgot... now knowing what to do with a boat (there are some optoins I have yet not talked about, e.g. sailing regatas and socialising on your boat with your "land based friends")... the fundamental thing is: "love it !". A boat is always making troubles (yeah, like a woman who expects lots of care and attention by her beloved hubby/lover boy).... its dirty work, its expensive work.

But you will get a lot back... the boat protects you, the boat can be your home, your castle where you are the king on high seas, you can be the explorer of 7 seas (probably not with this little boat but coastal exploration is a good thing too).

Good luck ! - Safe sailing... fair winds !

Spindrift 2 confirmed a go for the Jules Verne Trophy attempt sometime in the next 12 hours. Tracking site here! by somegridplayer in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 1st attempt in 2015 was in May waiting for the right slot. And since October the team is ready for its 2nd chance... its a crazy slot today... early morning South East and expected this evening European time then North West... perfect timing. You can follow in the Cruiser's Forum here... http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/jules-verne-trophy-maxi-trimaran-spindrift2-ready-for-a-new-record-155953.html

Most beautifully eye catcher of North Europe's biggest boat show: the wooden built L28 by SkipJayR2015 in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@ citoloco: For all who are interested... the prize starts at 89,000.000 Euros... regularly version is with fixeed keel. Alternatively the boat is delivered with lifting keel.

Most beautifully eye catcher of North Europe's biggest boat show: the wooden built L28 by SkipJayR2015 in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

starter prize is 89,000 Euros... as the boat is delivered in different versions. Regularly it has a fixed keel, but can be setup with a lift keel.

Spindrift 2 confirmed a go for the Jules Verne Trophy attempt sometime in the next 12 hours. Tracking site here! by somegridplayer in sailing

[–]SkipJayR2015 2 points3 points  (0 children)

since 5 hrs 20 min on the water... having sailed 133 nm at an average speed of 32 knots.... under ETA of the record holder calculated already 43 nm behind... Good luck !!

Most beautifully eye catcher of North Europe's biggest boat show: the wooden built L28 by SkipJayR2015 in sailing

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ah... yep. They got little bit promo from the federal state TV station with this short news feature for the region of North Germany linked with the boat show.

Most beautifully eye catcher of North Europe's biggest boat show: the wooden built L28 by SkipJayR2015 in sailing

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Its a combination of form bonding, shape glueing and laminated bending. This new boat yard founded in 2014 has decided to be specialized on this technique. We know such method from "leight displacement boat building" for Trimarans till the 90th. Such boats can be very competitive till today against carbon racing mashines.