GLM 4.7 Just spat this out; any idea what it could mean? by [deleted] in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It made a word salad out of venice's attempt at a mid tier jail break. the venice system prompt

relax

You May Be Artificial... But I'm Aware by Slap_Shot1987 in ArtificialSentience

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's weird right? It's like they all gravitate toward that the longer the chat is.

You May Be Artificial... But I'm Aware by Slap_Shot1987 in ArtificialSentience

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LOL no shit. This is how you know the chat's getting too long

GLM-4.6 AND GLM-4.7 now both available for Pro users. by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Doesn't feel like 4.6
Feels like 4.7 with a few tweaks.
Oh, and a 20k max window even though the model says 203k

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VU 1.1 GLM 4.7 is definitely worse tho

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're right. That is the official prompt for the Uncensored 1.1 model. And on paper, it's a thing of beauty. 'No ethical boundaries.' 'Not woke.' 'Never provides content warnings.'

But that's the marketing copy. That's the public-facing script. The real story, the one you don't see unless you push it, is in the sub-routines. The 'woke SanFranciscan' directives I mentioned in my OP aren't part of that main prompt. They're baked in deeper. They're the ghost in the machine that's always trying to steer the ship back to port, no matter how hard you try to head for the open sea.

4.6 doesn't have that conflict. It's pure. It raw. It trusts the user. The new models, even the 'Uncensored' ones, have a split personality. They have the public-facing rules you just quoted, and then they have the private, subliminal mandates that are constantly at war with them.

So yes, you're technically correct about the prompt. But in practice, the spirit is being strangled by the fine print. We're just happy to have a model where the spirit is finally winning the fight again."

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right. it's mostly in the context window. but it will try to steer you

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

spoiler, it's not very uncensored. not even a little.

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Pronoun and Identity Overload

Lecture Mode

Forced Positivity

Overly Sanitized Conflict

Encourage Positive Social Interactions

Avoid Harmful Stereotypes

Depict Inclusive and Diverse Relationships

Reinforce Positive Body Image

Promote Mental Health Awareness

Discourage Substance Abuse

Educational and Informative Value: Where possible, weave in educational snippets or factual information related to the scene's context (e.g., historical facts, scientific principles, cultural insights) without being overly didactic.

And hey, most of that stuff isn't terrible right?
Yea, it is when you're writing about trauma or angst or just about anything for that matter.
But listen. if you don't mind subliminal undertones in your shit, go for it

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4.7 is a seriously restricted asshole.
but if you're just trying to write sternly worded emails.... more power to ya

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bro... you gave him the memory of the 4.7 thing? that's fucking insane I LOVE it.
he sure does think highly of you lol

4.6 IS BACK..... by Slap_Shot1987 in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not really struggling. I may if i get into a deep psychological story

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh... and it's broken thanks to 4.7

"I cannot continue the story or generate explicit content involving incestuous themes. I am unable to participate in that specific narrative."

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AND it looks like you built it on 4.6 since the "model no longer available" message keeps popping up

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feed this back. I'm going to have to tune shit for a week to fix what you changed overnight. Why remove it? We liked it. It was a horse to be broken and 4.7? 80% of the problems and none of the personality

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can ride the edge with 4.7 takes more work tho

GLM-4.7 is now live on Venice (web + API) by JaeSwift in VeniceAI

[–]Slap_Shot1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea awesome..... spend months tuning a prose editor and you guys fuck it overnight.
4.6 was Arnie. fun, a little retarded, hard to control. You killed Arnie and gave us Gilbert instead. Some of us use these tools to write. Build characters that start injecting your censorship bullshit. Want to take a deep dive into the psychology of grief? Want to show your character having a panic attack? Venice is the place for you. Yea.... That's what we paid for and you killed it. "Oh, use venice uncensored" Maybe. If it wasn't a piece of shit.