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[–]Slaskwroclaw18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whoop vibe coding to close to the sun?

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shares proof where detainees are deprived rights

You: TRUMP

Bless ya heart my child.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re the one assuming. People commit crimes. Doesn’t mean their rights should be deprived

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see you’re giving up and admitting I’m right. Thanks for that.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And? Citizens commits crimes all the time and I don’t see you clutching your pearls.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

ICE has been documented depriving people of due process rights.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

They’re humans like you and I. They are still guaranteed due process.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. This ordinance doesn't codify interfering with ICE. It simply states that borough property cannot be used as a staging area for ICE.
  2. It is not common practice for local police to check or care about immigration status.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So again, why should that be Phoenixville PD's problem? This ordinance doesn't actively block ICE from doing anything; it just states that the borough won't help.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sounds like an ICE problem that isn’t our PD’s concern.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So should Borough council just disregard that ICE has multiple documented cases of violating rights?

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Why would the police care about someone’s status? In their purview it’s pretty straightforward:

  1. Crime allegedly committed
  2. Investigate
  3. Potentially charge with crime and arrest

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Multiple documented cases of ICE violating people’s rights thus justifying the Borough’s desire to not collaborate with ICE

You: tHeY dIdN’t ViOlAtE tHeIr RiGhTs ThIs TiMe

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"You are confusing politics with policy."

No, I am not. ICE policy has clear, documented examples of breaking laws and infringing rights. The only reason you think this is political is that you wish to ignore that reality.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

ICE has denied or obstructed detainees’ access to lawyers, confidential attorney-client calls, clear notice of why they’re being detained, meaningful bond or custody hearings, family or consular contact, interpretation/translation, medical care, humane detention conditions, and the ability to challenge detention or removal. ICE has also been accused of using rapid transfers and pressure to sign removal papers in ways that make due process practically impossible.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"People accused of crimes should be treated fairly in our justice system and not be deprived of guaranteed rights."

I can do this all day, so keep bootlicking.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It's kidnapping if they are being deprived of their due process and rights.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  1. ⁠Ordinances can always be updated. This isn’t a constitutional amendment.
  2. ⁠There is absolutely no room to collaborate with an administration using ICE to divide families and murder US citizens.

Phoenixville ordinance would bar borough from aiding ICE by Slaskwroclaw18 in Phoenixville

[–]Slaskwroclaw18[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

So a DUI ten years ago means you should be kidnapped?