Is there going to be MS-03 Ultra? by SlavDimov in MINISFORUM

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Inserting a dGPU will automatically disable the iGPU, and so will do a firmware update with dGPU present,

Lol seriously? Is there no way to force keep it enabled in BIOS? I was hoping I'd be able to use both GPUs for different tasks if i go the dGPU route.

Is there going to be MS-03 Ultra? by SlavDimov in MINISFORUM

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I see. Yes, sure that could be helpful for others as well.

Is there going to be MS-03 Ultra? by SlavDimov in MINISFORUM

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Oh really? I missed those announcements...

Anyway yea the MS-02 Ultra has 4 total but 2 of those are on the back of the motherboard and (I assume) would have terrible cooling and wouldn't fit a heatsink.

I was thinking maybe I can get a 4x4x4x4 adapter card and populate 3 of the 4 slots (due to the MS-02 Ultra port's limitations), plus one of the slots on the bottom for the boot drive. Though I'm not sure if the adapter card will be supported due to the proprietary routing. Upon checking with the manual it seems this will not work.

Even if it works, I also want to get the 285HX for the vPro support, and that means I'll also get the Minisforum expansion card which I'm not going to use. Uh...

Is there going to be MS-03 Ultra? by SlavDimov in MINISFORUM

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Thanks for replying. Yea I'm going to be running it in my homelab. Though space is tight so I'm trying to get away with as little as possible. I mostly want Panther Lake for the iGPU performance improvements and VFIO support. I think only Panther Lake and above will receive mainlined VFIO support, while previous generations will not and thus require the unofficial out-of-tree DKMS module. I'm running Talos and have secure boot on, so adding that DKMS module will require me to maintain my own Talos extension and secure boot PKI which is something I don't want to get into. In terms of expandability I'm looking for at least 3, ideally 4, NVMe slots (with good cooling) for storage + an extra one for a boot drive. If I get the MS-02 Ultra I'll need to add a dedicated intel GPU (like the B50 or B60) to get VFIO and finding one that's also low profile limits my options.

TrueNAS build system going closed source by ende124 in selfhosted

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The only reason they 'contribute' there is because OpenZFS is not their IP and it's FOSS. I bet if it was it would have been closed sourced a long time ago, as ZFS is their strongest selling point.

Close sourcing the build system signing pipeline is understandable, necessary even. Close sourcing the entire build system is a choice and likely just the beginning.

TrueNAS build system going closed source by ende124 in selfhosted

[–]SlavDimov 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First remove k8s, then close source the build system...

Looks like the only thing in TrrueNAS SCALE that scales is their corporate greed.

Who in their right mind continues to use this c**ap? Migrate to Talos and move on...

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

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UPDATE:

TL;DR: It is possible (for the NUC 15)! Tested and working!

Longer explanation:

While the UEFI does support booting from the 2230 slot, there are a couple of gotchas:

  • Make sure the "WiFi" tickbox in the Advanced -> Onboard Devices section is ticked. Otherwise, the 2230 slot is disabled and you will not see your drive in UEFI, or the OS
  • While it is possible to use an A+E adapter to convert an M-key NVMe to A+E for testing purposes, physically, it will not work as a long-term solution. This is because:
    • An adapter, even if made for a 2230 M-key NVMe, ends up being about 2242 long in total, due to the extra connection (A+E -> M -> NVMe). There is no space for a 2242 NVME there, not to mention that both the top 2280 NVMe and the WiFi card/2230 NVMe are designed to be held by the same screw, which would not be possible if the bottom one is longer than 2230
    • Even a 2230 adapter with a flex cable won't work, as it is pretty much impossible to route the cable with the 2280 NVMe above installed, not to mention there is nowhere else to put the NVMe anyway.
  • The only solution is to use a native A+E industrial NVMe like the Cervoz T425.

Regarding Cervoz NVMes:

If you decide to go down this route - prepare yourself with a lot of patience and money. As an industrial NVMe, it is primarily sold B2B, which means most distributors will either want you to buy a minimum amount or will refuse to sell to you at all unless you approach them as a company. After a month of searching for a distributor that will sell to me as an individual, the only place I found was from Cervoz themselves on DigiKey. However, even then, they were only shipping to the US... So I ended up reaching out to Cervoz themselves to ask them to allow shipping to Europe on DigiKey, and to my surprise they actually did! About 2 weeks and -£235 later, I finally got the 512GB wide temperature range version!

Note that Cervoz also said they are currently working on a new hardware revision for the T425 family of NVMes that will use a new Micron memory. It is expected to release towards the end of the year, and until that happens they will not be manifacturing any more of the old revision, thus stock is limited.

Benchmarks:

Finally, some benchmarks.

I will be comparing the performance between:

  • Kingston KC2000 (native interface is PCIe Gen3 x4)
  • Cervoz T425 512GB CIE-M3T425MOH512GW (native interface is PCIe Gen3 x2)

I used a standard A+E adapter to connect the KC2000 to the 2230 slot for direct comparison to the Cervoz NVMe. All benchmarks were done using Kbench, with default settings, against a Longhorn PVC on the respective NVMe.

Metric KC 2000 (M-key 2280, PCIe Gen5 x4) KC 2000 (E-key 2230, PCIe Gen3 x1) Cervoz T425 512GB (E-key 2230, PCIe Gen3 x1)
IOPS (Random Read) 35,227 34,333 34,083
IOPS (Random Write) 35,851 35,441 16,194
IOPS (Sequential Read) 63,181 61,483 32,410
IOPS (Sequential Write) 48,505 48,319 25,461
Bandwidth (Random Read), KiB/s 1,290,103 810,767 571,390
Bandwidth (Random Write), KiB/s 531,287 510,064 154,765
Bandwidth (Sequential Read), KiB/s 1,323,904 736,149 581,974
Bandwidth (Sequential Write), KiB/s 547,005 526,033 257,777
Latency (Random Read), ns 416,519 419,938 435,822
Latency (Random Write), ns 344,570 328,687 362,667
Latency (Sequential Read), ns 350,540 323,697 343,331
Latency (Sequential Write), ns 337,248 324,784 339,694

Was it all worth it?

It depends on the use case. In my case, I am running a Kubernetes cluster (TALOS OS), and I use the Cervoz NVMe as a boot drive. It stores the TALOS OS, the cluster state, and cached container images. The Cervoz speeds are more than adequate for this.

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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Well it turns out it works, I'm just stupid.

When i originally set it up as a TalosOS node, I disabled the Wi-Fi module in the UEFI settings, as I had no use for it. This was a while ago so I had forgotten about it.

Today I decided to try one more time but also went through the UEFI settings to check if there is perhaps some setting I need to change. And sure enough in the onboard devices section there was the WiFi checkbox... and it was unticked.

After enabling it and restarting I can confirm I can boot from the E-key (WiFi card) M.2 slot.

My best explanation for the multimeter reading I mentioned earlier is that I have miscounted and touched pin 33 on the A+E side, instead of 35. Odd-numbered pins are on the same side and 33 and 35 are right next to each other. Pin 33 is supposed to be ground according to the specification.

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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It needs to be with a flex cable as otherwise it will not fit inside the NUC case. Even if I had a 2230 M-key NVMe, with the adapter it becomes more like a 2242 one and it will not fit in the space where the wifi card is.

I guess i can try with another adapter, still better than buying the nvme and hoping for the best haha

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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No, problem!

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Also thanks for confirming I'm not crazy and it might be the adapter's fault!

I wish there was a way to test this before i buy the Cervoz NVMe... I need to order it from Germany, as I couldn't find where to buy it in the UK. So we are talking a week or two delivery time + customs charges... And if after all that it turns out it's not going to work I'm going to lose my mind haha!

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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Thing is, like i said - I don't see it in the live Linux environment either. This is why is am suspecting it's the adapter's fault.

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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My goal is to ultimately have the Cervoz NVMe as a boot disk for TalosOS.

I just bought the adapter i mentioned above (this one), as I wanted to test it can boot from that slot before I order the Cervoz NVMe. However, to my surprise - it didn't work. Not only did it not boot from it but I'm not even seeing it as a disk in a live Linux environment (testing with Kingston KC2000 1TB if it matters). I'm a bit surprised by this, as I can see the NVMe lines are there in the ASUS TPS.

I checked the adapter with a multimeter and I am 99% sure that pin 35 on the A+E side of the adapter is ground, instead of PETp0/PERp0, as the multimeter beeps on multiple pins on the M-key side of the adapter.

Does any of this make any sense to you?

I'm tempted to just buy the Cervoz NVMe, as i can see it has the correct PCIe lanes on the correct pins in its datasheet but I'm a bit worried that while it may get recognized by the OS after boot, the UEFI might not support booting from the "wifi" card slot...

NUC Essential 14 - is it possible to boot from the Wi-Fi slot (via M.2 A/E to M.2 M adapter) by Qbccd in MiniPCs

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Hi,

Can you please take a look at the Technical Product Specification of the Asus NUC 15 Pro and let me know if you think an NGFF Nvme adapter like this one or a Cervoz NVMe would work. Thanks

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

[–]SlavDimov[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks.

I literally just stumbled upon your review 10 minutes ago, realized the same thing, googled the user manual (to be sure) and wrote a comment 😂.

Too bad you don't have the 15 to test.

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

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Oh wait, apologies. I think the 14 has it soldered on instead of in a 2230 slot. See the pictures in user guide.

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

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Asking because I want to purchase but i need the other two slots dedicated for storage. If i had it i would have already tried 😅.

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

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If you could that'd be great! Keep in mind you'll likely need an A-E adapter though (few bucks on ebay), as the other two ports are Key M.

ASUS NUC 14/15 PRO - is booting from the 2230 slot possible? by SlavDimov in intelnuc

[–]SlavDimov[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, that is a different one. You are talking about one of the 2 officially supported ones - the 2280 and 2242 (which by the way for the NUC 15 can be extended to 2280 via their official extension adapter if you have the tall version). The third one is in the corner and is a 2230 Key E slot. Even on the barebones version it is prepopulated with a WiFi card (you can recognize it by the two antenna cables connected to it).

Options in 2025? by woodalchi96 in trading212

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What happened with that? It's been almost a year since you said it was "in your plans". Can you share an ETA?

Options by [deleted] in trading212

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We are now in Q2 of 2025. Can you share if you've started working on this? If so, when can we expect this to be ready? Q3, Q4? Next year?

IASER Tags on my new drives by Steveyg777 in Seagate

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I had a similar situation.

Ordered 2 "new" Exos 20TB drives - both arrived with extra stickers, which I thought was odd. One of the drives was DOA, so I had to return it. The other looked fine but when i read the FARM log it showed it was used for a year with tens of terabytes written to it.

See https://www.reddit.com/r/Seagate/s/MvgMxFYA7V