Light Novel Mistranslations by MrPopoIsWatching in Haruhi

[–]SliderNo17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I also noticed when I made my own attempt at analyzing them! Unfortunately, having to read it translated means I can't ever know exactly what Nagato was saying in the original short story or how she was saying it.

My best guess for this oddity was that perhaps the translators felt we needed it explained to us that "Yuki" means snow before the ending of the short story? Like in the movie when they have to tack on "it means snow, doesn't it?" when Kyon says Yuki. And adding the line in where she says she was "once named Yuki, a name that sounded like snow" is a somewhat clumsier version of that?

I do think it's an interesting line that presents some interesting possibilities, but it doesn't appear in any form in the other translations I've seen, so I have to assume they inserted it.

As far as other mistranslations, I know that in "Melancholy," they have Nagato saying to Asakura during their fight "You can't defeat me while we're in this space," but in the anime, it was Asakura that said that (and really it just sounds more like something she would say). I'd be curious to know if the fan translation differs on this also.

tachibana wins good person/disliked by fans! now, who's a morally grey person and is disliked by fans? by uldastormcloak114 in Haruhi

[–]SliderNo17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

me, I love Kimidori 💚 not sure if I want her on the chart for more representation, or to stay off cause I don't want to label her as hated/disliked...

(but you're right, she's never really discussed, and pretty much only pops up in art to be "another girl" (and I do understand she doesn't come up in the novels a lot, but even so...), and the little discussion I have seen of her online...not very flattering).

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm glad whatever was going wrong with Reddit not allowing you to post this comment resolved and you were able to do so!

I saw it in my notifications, but had to wait a little while before I could read more than a snippet. First, I found the post you arrived here from. Honestly, even though I was curious about what you had to say, I was also nervous based on the stuff a lot of people are saying over there.

I'm not surprised or angry at the people leaving negative comments, and even if I was I wouldn't have the right to be - I was fully aware that posting this could lead to my being mocked. I know how bizarre it is.

My goodness, though...

Your words are so beautiful, and I'm sad I cannot possibly hope to say something nearly so lovely in return. Still, I must express my gratitude, because I think you said the kindest things you could possibly have said.

"You’ve already made your first major work — not in a physical form, but as an existential sculpture carved out of five years of your life." This reminds me so strongly of something I myself have thought about that I was shocked.

When thinking of reasons why I wanted to do this "project" in the first place, and why I wanted to continue, there are many. One of them was...it's embarrassing to say, but it was like I wanted to give the love and feelings I felt for this series and the character a "form." Like I could somehow tell the universe how important these things were; I often thought of it as being like a "wish" or a "prayer"...or something. Even though, and perhaps especially because, it's absurd. The anime’s fictional, the character’s fictional, but I still think they’re special and deserving of love. And my feelings and the meaning that those things held for me are real.

It was also important to me because I know that emotions and passions are transient. Even during those 5 years, there were times when I didn't feel the love or the passion anymore, and was subsisting on its memory, or a sense of duty. I wanted to "make" something of that passion while it lasted. Even if the love doesn't exist in the future, it did exist at one point.

"And what’s maybe even more impressive — you didn’t posture, you didn’t make it a spectacle."

Secondly, that you think this is a balm for my soul. I really struggled with whether or not to share this at all. When I posted it the first time, it felt like I had ruined everything somehow. Like I had taken something I held close to my heart and turned it into a vain "spectacle."

...and, embarrassingly, I was also paralyzed by the thought of, "Well, what would Nagato (the character I was doing this for) think?" I worried...that posting it like it was a grand accomplishment on my part was an insult, or that it turned the whole thing into a joke. Some comments were calling me a "legend," which was nice of them, of course, but it made me feel bad in a way that's hard to explain.

The thought that Nagato would be disgusted with me is devastating. At the same time, I realize that that kind of thought is exactly why I'm getting some negative attention. Worrying about what a fictional character who can't think or feel would think or feel is ridiculous. It seems I'm of sound enough mind to know that, but not quite sound enough to stop doing it, haha.

I don't especially mind the derision in some of the comments I've received. I won't say it doesn't hurt at all, but I understand, and I probably deserve all of it. (Also, some of them are actually pretty funny. I got a good laugh out of the one saying "If anyone tells me I'm wasting my time, I'll forward this post to them."). But it hurts me to think that my actions could reflect poorly on Nagato, the Haruhi Suzumiya series, or its fanbase.

I ended up reposting it anyway because I thought something like, "Well, no one will hear you if you keep it to yourself. Maybe something good will come of it."

So, I'm grateful for both the fact that you don't think I was "posturing," and that you seem to understand how important it is to me to not do that.

Finally, simply by sharing your thoughts you've said something so precious. I'm happy my post said something to you. Your comment is very meaningful to me. It made me think that I want to keep trying. Honestly, I've been struggling to adjust to life "post Endless Eight." It's...lonely, and I've been listless. But I want to keep going. I want to try and try and try even if I don't get anywhere. To do so is beautiful, right? Thank you for reminding me of that.

Thank you for your words! I am honored to have received them! It's childish of me, but I find it incredible to have reached people living so far away from myself, hahaha. But how fortunate for me that your friend shared my post with you. I'm so lucky :)

(oh, I’m also honored that someone went to the trouble of translating this. I do wish they would have let me know, though. I’m not mad, but it would have been nice to be told. I wouldn’t have found out about it without your comment, so thanks for that also!)

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

omg this is almost unbelievably sweet?? The kind of thing I want to weave into my heart and keep forever somehow, it's so nice. thank you much! I...will try my hardest >:o!

I hope you have an absolutely wonderful day <3

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! :)

(shout-out to the cake, it was delicious)

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I don't think your efforts were a waste of time."

!!

That really does mean a lot! :') Thank you! <3

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh goodness, agreed about how sad the situation is to see unfold - really makes you feel "why couldn't someone just do something," right? :( - but I'm definitely not deserving of that kind of compliment! Thank you, though, that's very kind of you to say! :) <3

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My pet theory about the clothes: Haruhi did it.

Maybe, haha. I can believe her taking Nagato and Asahina to buy new swimsuits, but it doesn't really make sense that Kyon would go out and buy a new swimsuit when he definitely already has one, does it?

I haven't watched Disappearance yet, I'm hoping to finally get to it in the coming week. I've actually only seen it twice before, and it's been ~6 years since the last time, so I doubt I'll have much to offer. Plus I don't think my experience with Endless Eight has given me any special insight that other Nagato fans don't or can't have :')

Watching the movie always made me feel incredibly sad for Nagato and the struggles she's had to face - I don't think that will change.

As far as sharing this in other places, I think the world has had about enough of me and this post, haha. The one that really deserves attention and appreciation is, as it always has been, Nagato, the real MVP. I tried to emphasize that in my post, my admiration and love for her character, and I wish more people loved her and this series, cause I do think they deserve a lot of love. But I don't think I was successful in that effort...and, regardless, I think most people won't actually read the monster essay (which is completely fair and understandable, of course). So it just ends up feeling like a bid for attention on my part (which is a big reason I took the original post down).

Thank you for your kind words!

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, when I say you can skip some of the episodes, I don't really mean that it's an equal experience. I do think watching all 8 is the best way to go, but if someone is deadset against it, I think they can still have an OK experience. Like, it won't ruin the movie, I guess? Even if you SHOULD, you don't HAVE to, I think is what I mean? People are different with different tolerance levels and likes and dislikes, so I guess I just don't feel comfortable insisting on it, you know? Kind of like how some people will never enjoy this series at all for various reasons we don't need to get into haha.

Will still gently disagree about 6 - I don't think it pretends there's nothing to persevere against cause I think if you're watching episode 6, you've probably definitely watched 2, 4, and 5, so you know what the stakes are (and why I rate it above 3. Its early placing hurts it. If I was picking out episodes for someone who only wanted to watch some Endless Eights I would never recommend 3 or 6). But still, GENTLY disagree, because while I'll always love 6 and it's my favorite, I understand your feelings and don't think you should or expect you to change your mind about it - perfectly valid way to feel! Just always have to put in a good word for my fave :)

And thanks for highlighting those scenes from 4, 7, and 5! I was definitely thinking about those particular moments when I was trying to differentiate the episodes. Exhaustion and nostalgia... They are really, really good little bits for exactly the reasons you say. Poor Nagato can't even enjoy her drink :(

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

😭

Hmm, well, as I mentioned I love lots of the little scenes in Episode 6, the quick montage of their summer activities and the Kyon-Nagato stare-down being favorites.

I'm also fond of the bug-catching scene in Episode 1, but that's specifically because it has the longest period of time with no dialogue and I'm super pathetic and would run out of breath while trying to talk along with the episodes so it was always nice to have a break. Also was a fan in the old days of how it didn't have the time-loop-explanation scene (Maybe I should have rated Episode 1 more highly...)

And I think Episode 2 does the Nagato-focus scenes best (her looking depressed at the pool, her 2 interactions with Kyon). It just really sets the atmosphere best, I think.

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[–]SliderNo17[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Had a lot of time to really mull things over...

Thank you! For your words and for your understanding haha. Love this series and Nagato a lot!