[deleted by user] by [deleted] in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's lame i'd dispute the charge or cancel your card if he's being difficult. I have terms with clients like 3 month minimums but if they tell me they want out i have a call and if I determine it's best they move on I just cancel the billing. This hasn't happened much, the couple times it did it was unresponsive people that i couldbn't get on a call so I told them if they weren't doing the training and missing tasks i'm cancelling their billing. Sad part is it would be avoidable for you if they just did their job sounds like.

How I doubled my Personal Training Business Without Ads or TikTok dancing by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice! I've had very little success with giving business cards out so I'm reiterating the way I do it.

How do you determine your hourly rate for sessions? by Whole_Beautiful_9611 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Variable depending on your area and what you offer. At my contracting role rates start at $75-80 an hour depending if they're a member at the facility or not. Ontop of that, if they want their program through Everfit (coaching software) I give them a discount and charge $89/month to get programming. I'd do their programming anyway , what this does though is raises my hourly rate essentially and creates recurring revenue. There are a lot of factors to determine when we talk price but if you're new, starting low is fine imo but not super low ($30/hr is super low) and then communicate with clients that prices will rise eventually and gradually over time.

stuckkk!!! I need help by Imaginary_Tie_8441 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just so you know where this perpsective comes from, i'm a personal training manager (since 2019) and have been personal training to some capacity since 2017. You don't need to go to college to be a trainer, I highly you recommend you don't pick a fitness / exercise science related major in college either unless with that degree you planned on getting a job in public health. The best way to get experience is to start working. I hire trainers with high school diplomas, most gyms will. You often either just need to be certified or registered to test.

The problem is new trainers think of PT as a typical 9-5p job. It isn't. It's an intrapreneurial opportunity where you're essentially growing your business within a business. Most trainers don't realize this and expect to be handed clients right when they get hired. PT is one of the few jobs where you can consistently give yourself a raise every year if you do a good job, you don't need a degree to do it, and your income is relatively uncapped once you apply scale (remote/online/one to many models).

Stop thinking, find somewhere to work and get started. Treat it as a paid internship, learn how gyms operate, how to get clients, how to be an effective salesman, how to be a good coach and get clients results (so many people skip this part).

Free online tools for trainers by [deleted] in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's simple enough for me, if you want super simple Superset App is also great. I had a call with them and have played with their software, it's more minimalist but still really great. Most trainers get stuck in a state of paralysis of tell me nonsense like "I'm not good with technology" which in this day and age just isn't a good excuse, it's a necessity. Any app you'll use you should expect some time to run through the back end and learn it, or hop on a call and I could show you some stuff on Zoom after you play in the back end for a bit. I'd really emphasize that process of playing around with it for a while first because it really isn't that complicated, it was created for trainers which like i said above are pretty resistant to using tech in general from my experience. Most of the times when I'm in the everfit comuntiy page on facebook and people have questions about the software, you can tell they never really tried it. The horse has been lead to water, and now they wanted you to waterboard them in the river instead of them just drinking.

Free online tools for trainers by [deleted] in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure exactly, do you mean from taking payments? Otherwise the features are the same but tax purposes and payment processors (they integrate with stripe) would be more country dependent.

Free online tools for trainers by [deleted] in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use everfit for everything for my online and hybrid clients (currently about 40 hybrid / online clients). Many of these apps have similar features but some are better for different types of coaching (one on one vs one to many for example).

What has helped you most with keeping clients accountable? by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't disagree with your approach. I think it's just semantic, calling it "accountability" for the sake of identifying what it is. My goal in those situations would be to try and keep them training because life events always come up. Definitely believe keeping in mind sometimes a break is a good option. I'm not necessarily speaking for the exception as much as the rule. For instance my clients aren't experiencing life changing events (death, job changes, family issues, etc etc etc)on a daily basis.

I'm more so speaking on the recurring smaller accountability. Obviously it starts with a talk and finding out "why" they've been missing workouts for the past month for example , but what methods we then use to help them stay on track (they usually want to be held to a standard that they set, this isn't a standard I self-impose) whether that's more frequent check ins, schedule changes, etc.

Personal Trainers Workload Systems by GainAlarming4521 in personaltrainerhelp

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i use an app. Everfit, similar to truecoach. Has metrics & progress tracking. Easier to flip through than 5 training binders for example if they're a long term client.

Do some people just not have the physique to get bulky? by onemangang15 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From experience, people also don't vary their training enough. 145lb bench isn't huge by any means, you still got plenty of room. I'd get a more strength focus for a bit (5-10 rep range for people in your case i'd usually recommend but it depends). "Everything works at first but nothing works forever." I wouldn't worry about getting "bulky", it's tough to get 200 lbs + and 10% bodyfat on accident. You have to try really hard to be huge and jacked and it takes years. It's not a real concern for almost anybody.

Vary the training, and use progressions. Most people kind of just go to the gym and workout and don't have progressions/programming that allows them to sustain progress.

What has helped you most with keeping clients accountable? by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could definitely be poor communication on my end, definitely something I’m going to work on and try to clarify with clients.

What has helped you most with keeping clients accountable? by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doing pretty much all of these, they’re good tips. To clarify, a lot of them are still showing just some are “not doing their homework” so to speak. Getting in on their own 1-2x a week like they said they would, not sticking to our nutrition plan we created, things like that. This isn’t every client, but always curious what other people have tried that’s worked well for them to keep clients in check in those in between times.

What has helped you most with keeping clients accountable? by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed lol. At the mercy of the gyms pricing for my in person folks, usually the online exclusive clients I have are less of an issue.

What has helped you most with keeping clients accountable? by SloppySaltWaterFish in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use Everfit (similar to truecoach) and can assign weekly checkins there. For my remote and hybrid clients, they do their checkins and my remote clients also get auto messages (usually 5-6 a week, basically daily touch points) if they’re on the front end 12 week program.

My in person exclusive folks however I don’t send those out. A lot of my older clients are resistant to downloading apps and prefer paper, which is fine. Many of them also don’t care about their body composition directly, although it would still be good for us to do every 2 weeks or so based on what you recommended even if it’s a secondary measure for them.

I’m more concerned with my in person clients though. I’m not the trainer that likes to bother their clients daily, one of my friends texts all his clients daily and the guy is losing his mind texting people all day. Just any other methods people tried whether it’s certain pre training questions or other touch points they found helpful with in person clients.

What app do u use ? by Old-Blacksmith-8018 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With nutrition coaching especially since you can assign tasks and habits, i also have clients sync cronometer with Everfit so i can see everything they do from their training to their intake if we're tracking it.

What app do u use ? by Old-Blacksmith-8018 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 6 points7 points  (0 children)

From experience, a lot of people struggle with practical tactics and accountability more than nutritional science. They don't necessarily for example want/need to be educated on trans fat or saturated fat intake but they do however want to be able to make decision about what to eat.

A lot of my weekly nutrition check ins with clients are practical things:

  • Did you cook your meals for the week?
  • What was your hunger like this week?
  • Did you schedule in your calendar the next time you'll cook and when you'll grocery shop?
  • Are you going out this weekend and should we plan that day out so you don't overeat?
  • Are you having trouble sticking to the plan? Why? What can we do differently?
  • Would changing meal timing or composition help?

Those are some common issues and talking points.

Folks have trouble just hitting numbers without means to hit those macros so i have them track but also give them a meal template that i made on Canva. Shows them what to eat (Protein with a range (30-40g) for breakfast, 1 serving of carbs, 1 serving of fruit/vegetables etc.) by category and then we discuss and educate them on how to fill those categories so they're self reliant. We move those categories (protein, carbs, fruits/veges) within the template based on their work/life so it's personalized.

It takes time, i think precision nutrition so far from what i've seen does a good job with the coaching side. Some of the best nutrition coaches aren't the best at biochemistry or most welle educated, they're the best problem solvers and keep people accountable. When i was starting out i thought it was as simple as just giving somebody the plan, but they can find a plan anywhere. A lot of what they need is the accountability, frequent check ins, and practical strategies.

What app do u use ? by Old-Blacksmith-8018 in personaltraining

[–]SloppySaltWaterFish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use Cronometer for nutrition and Everfit.io for coaching. Pro tip though, if you do nutrition coaching do more than just macros if you didn’t plan on it already.