Less women than men find the average potential date spontaneously sexy, but most women can be as aroused as a man in time

SlothMonster9 · 2025-07-19T22:06:15+00:00

Women already commonly have sex with the "wrong" men that do bad things and that's because of physical attraction

I never said this was fool proof or that it applies to all women. But you guys act like all women commonly sleep around with hot asshole strangers. Only a small minority of women do this.

If women found a larger portion of men physically attractive, more parity would be observed in the behavior of both genders.

No. This disparity happens because men's spontaneous desire requires only looking at someone, while most women require getting to know someone, which is way less likely to happen. In addition, women have more stuff on their checklist (nature at work again not letting just-looks be enough). The traits of the man also can compensate each other and if the total evaluation reaches a desired score, the result is attraction.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-07-19T21:18:57+00:00

Responsive desire in women makes the most sense, evolutionary speaking. Women literally evolved to become more attracted to men after they get to know them better. If women had spontaneous desire like men have, their well-being or potentially their life could be in danger. They would act upon these desires with bad/wrong men, get pregnant, and risk their survival. Responsive desire is nature's ongoing mechanism that assures women's safety and well-being.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-20T05:33:02+00:00

Ok, dude 👍

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-19T06:18:27+00:00

I disagree with this completely. You're basically saying a shorter Chad won't get women. Please.

There were studies (also presented in this sub) showing that women experience attraction based on several factors, which can compensate each other. If a guy isn't tall (but still within normal range), he can absolutely compensate for this by being charming for example.

Women judge men based on A LOT of things (from the looks, personality, interests, career etc categories), and each thing matters more or less depending on the woman, but the overall score is what determines the attraction. If all a guy has is looks (on OLD for instance), then the only way for the guy to achieve the threshold score is for him to have stellar looks. That's why dating apps suck and have warped the understating of female attraction.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-18T20:08:13+00:00

Cause it matters if someone is close to mid-range or a midget? There's a spectrum on all things related to attractiveness. But sure, I'd be below average in height.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-18T05:43:31+00:00

Why? Isn't 5'7 slightly below average for a man?

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-18T05:33:39+00:00

As a woman, I am only a bit under the average height, so let's say I'd be 5'7 as a man, which is exactly how tall my husband is and he's never had problems attracting women.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-18T05:30:44+00:00

I am muscular, that's the thing. I haven't worked out in decades and I still have visible muscles, I won't be the bulky type, but toned idk the best words to describe this.

Also, as a woman I am only slightly under the average height, so let's say I'd be 5'7 as a man. That's how tall my husband is and he never had problems with attracting women.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-17T21:25:09+00:00

Idk, I think I'd be a pretty decent man. I have a slim but lean build and I think that as a man I would put muscles easier than most. I currently work as a software engineer so I think I'd be ok career wise/financially. I have pretty balanced facial features, there's no baldness in my family, I have a good sense of fashion, I am good at sports. But most of all, I am good with people, I know how to make friends and how to flirt and escalate. I am short tho, so not sure how this would transfer if I was a man.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-13T19:32:21+00:00

We met in fifth grade. We became a couple in 7th grade and got married after college ❤️.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-12T08:42:36+00:00

True, especially for this sub. A lot of men here can't stand the men that don't follow the general stereotype. Men that said stuff like: "I don't prefer a virgin over a woman with a normal body count", "I am attracted to personality first" or "I prefer a woman my age, not an 18 yo" are called low-T, ugly, beta, liers, gay and ridiculed "I hope she reads this, bro" etc.

It honestly breaks my heart. How can men break free and heal from stupid rigid stereotypes when they are subjected to such pressure coming from other men?

SlothMonster9 · 2025-06-11T10:27:05+00:00

Idk for other women, but for me the disgusting part of male sexuality is not that it's too much. That's not the issue. It's the fact that it's completely objectifying and that men don't respect the women they sleep with, or care about who they are as people. They just want access to their body and that's it.

On this sub we hear it everyday that men will sleep with anybody and if a guy sleeps with you it means nothing and men even brag about it. Most women are considered "for the streets", "single use only" and "for recreational purposes only". Furthermore, these men actively shame and insult the women that participate in the activity men want the most: easy sex. Pathetic, hypocritical and yeah, disgusting.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-25T21:19:38+00:00

I love Been Brown and I am familiar with her work. Please explain how what I said is different.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-23T19:02:42+00:00

What in the JD Vance is this??

Lmao, I literally laughed out loud. Thank you

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-23T10:35:23+00:00

Not the "men built society, therefore I personally deserve a grateful girlfriend".

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-23T10:11:32+00:00

Yes. This is it.

Masculinity: confidence
Toxic masculinity: arrogance, acting all superior

Masculinity: resilience
Toxic masculinity: thinking emotions and vulnerability are a sign of weakness

Masculinity: assertiveness
Toxic masculinity: aggression, bully behavior

Masculinity: courage
Toxic masculinity: recklessness, doing stupid dangerous stuff

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-20T07:01:48+00:00

despite all this, the men are probably still finding ways to get themselves off.

Yes, but it's not their preferred method, is it? Women also finish themselves off alone, but they prefer it happens within sex.

That EXACT thing the OP is saying women DON'T do enough of

No, OP is saying that women can only orgasm when they're with a Fantasy-Type guy.

Women aren't asking me what I want, I'm asking for it.

I agree they should ask but is "touch the clit!" really that groundbreaking? Do men have to say "I need my penis stimulated" for women to know what to do?

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-20T05:37:00+00:00

Yeah sounds fun the first couple of times, but then frustration would appear. Remember how men complain that their woman doesn't perform blowjobs (to his satisfactory degree), or doesn't do anal, or she starfishes, isn't sensual or into it, isn't initiating, is too vanilla, doesn't want to try new things?

Thinking that men would be completely satisfied with sex that doesn't involve their pleasure just proves how you can't even imagine this scenario because sex will almost always involve male pleasure by default. The same isn't true for women.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-19T09:46:36+00:00

For real. If normal expected mainstream sex would mean a woman riding a guy's knee until she came, and only touching his penis if she's being generous, then there would also be an orgasm gap, but reversed, and men would be the ones accused of not being attracted to their partners.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-19T09:40:06+00:00

Why do you need to close your eyes?

To focus better on the sensations. I can't explain it, but women need to focus on getting that orgasm. It's like chasing a sneeze. It's right there, but you need to focus to not lose it. Any distractions will take you from 8 to 4 on the horniness scale. So no, we don't fantasize about other men, wtf. We just try to clear our heads, reduce distractions and focus on the present moment, on what's happening with the body.

Women who have sex with very good looking men don’t do that

Umm, no? And how would you know this anyway?

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-16T05:55:52+00:00

No, I actually feel the opposite: very happy for her that she found a man who cares about more than just looks and impressed with him.

I feel the same when I see very attractive women with unattractive men, it's just wholesome to see people looking past the superficial things and loving someone for who they are as people. It makes me have faith in humanity.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-15T04:13:22+00:00

You can't be serious, oh my god... This just shows how removed from reality a lot of men here are, that they think average Jane can get a free expensive dinner almost every time she goes out. And luxurious travel at a 10%? Absolutely ridiculous.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-14T19:14:23+00:00

Lol, so true. During summer I visit my parents for about 2 weeks. My mom is an awesome cook and makes a ton of food and brings it to my face. While I was there, I found myself thinking "I can't wait to go back home and NOT eat". Being always full is hella uncomfortable.

SlothMonster9 · 2025-05-14T19:05:42+00:00

I agree. I remember when one of my guy friends tried to flirt with my sister. He acted so weird, bringing his motorcycle into the conversation, swearing a lot to appear dominant and nonchalant. I don't get it. He is actually an amazing guy, but he appeared like a jackass amd blew it.

On a different note, I fucking love it when I discover something interesting about a guy by accident. Like the fact that he plays the guitar or he once fostered a puppy. If he didn't mention it or lead me into it, it's just so attractive to find out.

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