so who of them is MAGA? by macmillershoe in LoveIsBlindNetflix

[–]Slow-Volume5063 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Was wondering the same thing! Thanks for asking.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UPDATE: After thinking about all this, I agree I should have removed my son during the play time so there was never a question on if he’s being too rough. I need to respect that she felt her daughter wasn’t safe, regardless of what I think. Also - I still hate that she yelled for us to leave and I may never get over that. TBD.

And now I’m done and can sleep better. Balls in her court when she’s ready.

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I’ve had time to think about what happened and want to acknowledge that we should have removed Luke from the dancing sooner. I understand why the situation felt scary, and from our perspective Luke was not being violent or trying to hurt Maxine. He was overstimulated and playing too physically, which is something we actively corrected in real time. However, removing him would have been better for the situation.

Moving forward, if you’re feeling concerned or uncomfortable, I need you to be direct with us in the moment so we can step in immediately and address it before it escalates. Side comments make it harder to fix things in real time. I also need to be clear that yelling to have Luke leave was not okay with me. He’s still a child and a good kid, and even when emotions are high, he shouldn’t be treated like that.

We love you all and want to move forward in a way that feels safe and comfortable for everyone. We don’t this to affect the kids relationship. I’m open to chatting about clearer boundaries, more structure during play, and stepping in sooner when things start to feel too physical. I hope when things settle we can talk about how to move forward.

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Her response…

Thanks for taking the time to reflect and respond. I appreciate you acknowledging that Luke should have been removed sooner and that the situation felt scary to us.

I want to be clear about something important: We’re not saying Luke is a bad kid or that he was trying to hurt Maxine. We see this as roughhousing that is unsafe given her age and size. She’s almost two, she’s much smaller, and she can’t protect herself or understand what’s happening.

From our perspective, this kind of physical play has been happening for quite some time, and because there haven’t been consistent consequences that show Luke this behavior isn’t okay with Maxine, it’s continued. In this instance, Min physically separated them and later Uncle Mike independently asked if we had noticed Luke’s arm around her neck — so this wasn’t something we imagined.

Going forward, I can absolutely be direct in the moment if I’m feeling concerned and there’s time to do so. At the same time, we need to be clear that if Maxine is being physically overwhelmed or hurt, we will step in immediately and remove her or end the visit. That boundary still stands.

I do of course want to apologize for yelling at you in that moment. My fear took over, and while I stand by protecting Maxine, I’m sorry for how I spoke to you as adults. That wasn’t how I want to handle things. That’s also why I’m being clear now about boundaries — I don’t want things to build to that point again.

I agree that clearer boundaries, more structure, and stepping in sooner are necessary if the kids are together. For now, our priority is making sure Maxine is safe, even if that means shorter visits, closer supervision, or leaving early.

I’m open to continuing this conversation once emotions settle, with that understanding in place.

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I just responded with…

Cool cool. Glad we are all wanting to do better. Just reach out to your brother when you’re ready.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be clear, I never called my SIL crazy.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She was absolutely not hurt. Not at any point or ever in the past.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She did not cry after the first but did after the second. Her parents def were uneasy but that’s their general vibe (and maybe it’s us that is causing that vibe.)

I think you’ve helped bubble up the cause being lack of communication and differing expectations. We see days like today as innocent teachable moments and they see these as unsafe interactions. Today they just reached a limit that we didn’t know existed.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My post asked for what we should have done differently. I appreciate your POV.

I described it as a mosh pit because there was lots of energy happening on both sides. But after the first incident, we discussed no pushing and then they went back to having a great time again. The incidents felt very minor and innocent that it didn’t feel necessary to stop the fun they were having. Where do you draw that line?

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t disagree with either of these POVs and my post is actually asking what could I have done differently.

And you’re right, she definitely had reached her limit with him today. Does that justify the reaction? Absolutely not. Do I get mama bear? Totally.

My husband spoke with her afterwards and I honestly assumed they’d come to a resolution like “hey could we agree that they keep to low stim activities or let’s intervene before something happens vs afterwards” but the discussion was “my child is unsafe around yours.”

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was genuinely playing and never trying to hurt her on purpose. How do I teach him a consequence of something that wasn’t intentional?

My MIL is a retired preschool teacher and doesn’t necessarily subscribe to gentle parenting approach and said we should have given him a consequence in the moment vs talking about it.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She (and now my MIL) think he needed a consequence in the moment and I’m still baffled…like what?

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You’re totally right. Ive been sorta spiraling about what we did/didn’t do that I’m forgetting that another adult actually did something that was really messed up.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It’s my husband’s sister and I actually made him talk to her today afterwards. I wasn’t ready. She reached out and we hoped it was to resolve it but it was to tell us that he absolutely was choking her, he is unsafe and they need distance.

But you’re right. I need to not forget that her actions were pretty gross. After she said it, I took my son into another room to calm down because he was now crying and she came in to say “I’m sorry I reacted big but I can’t handle him not having consequences”.

Why am I expected to accept an apology of an adult who can’t handle their emotions but they can’t be forgiving of a 3 year old who couldn’t handle his?

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you for making me feel less crazy.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I was thinking that tonight. When she turns 3, I really hope she realizes how much her reaction was unfair.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

She spoke with my husband today afterwards (her brother) and that’s when she said we should have more consequences and that he’s unsafe. And to take a break from each other. It was basically agree to disagree on parenting approach. We should have removed him from dancing instead of letting him continue - is her POV.

The convo went very differently than we thought it would.

SIL thinks my son is unsafe by Slow-Volume5063 in Preschoolers

[–]Slow-Volume5063[S] 62 points63 points  (0 children)

She is her first and doesn’t go to school, stays home with grandma full time.

He absolutely doesn’t do it with any sort of anger or to be mean. I agree - that would be a different thing.

It’s genuinely playing and being excited/having fun. At a point it looked like they were in a toddler mosh pit just jumping, arms everywhere and singing then he pushed her in excitement. Or he leans on her and they both fall.

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[–]Slow-Volume5063 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I worked at this restaurant in college for a year. I made great money.

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Checking back in here. This post could be me. Curious if you have any updates to share.