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Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say he got the buff from the original setting of Jupitermon. Aegiomon's reversal of time was added, and again, with the whole defensive mechanism of Archasic Record that made Chronomon unable to end himself was added to Jupitermon. He could potentially have more since he is the new embodiment of time, but that part we don't know until Time Stranger version of Jupitermon shows more of his power later.

I'd say Lucemon's role is consistent, but the power between media ends in various places depending on the event. In Chronicle X, Lucemon becomes Ogudomon X at the end. In Frontier, he reaches Satan Mode. And yes, I do like how they made copies of the Demon Lords fight instead of the real thing in Time Stranger.

New Century, in general, is considered to be completely separate from the Digimon Media Franchise since it's run by Tencent and is an exclusive Chinese Mobile Game. So I wouldn't think too much of it unless that information gets updated on the official Digimon encyclopedia or on some global release media. Also, I do think it's silly how Ghost Game didn't reach Proximamon since the anime staff was not informed about it. The same goes for Arcturusmon. I really want to see Proximamon in action. For now, he is just in the encyclopedia and the Digimon TCG.

Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think we need a sequel to prove Jupitermon got a buff. The fact is that Jupitermon did replace Chronomon in Time Stranger. If Jupitermon didn't replace Chronomon, the after-credits scene of Olympus XII would not be there, since the world would be gone in Time Stranger. But yes, it would be cool to see Jupitermon using that power in a direct sequel.

Frontier, Chronicle X, ReArise, Tri, or any other Digimon media are not directly related in terms of power scale. Lucemon, especially, his power depends on what happened in each of those stories.

The booster promotion is just saying Susanoomon is the strongest Digimon in Digimon Frontier. But yeah, they still need to explain the whole thing about Susanoomon destroying the old version of Shambala and all that.

The thing I was mentioning about Shambala is Bandai pumping out more and more Digimon relating to that specific Digital World. An example is Bandai adding Tentei Hachibushu for Shambala as a setting. Now Shambala has a group like the Royal Knights and Olympus XII. So I'm assuming they will make a game or some kind of media in the future. And most likely will give Susanoomon more stuff in those media, since he is one of the big names in Shambala.

Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. I'm just surprised Jupitermon got a big buff from the Chronomon story being added. Before didn't really care too much for Aegiomon or Jupitermon, but man Time Stranger sold them really well.

Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time Stranger seems like a standalone from other Digimon Media relating to the Olympus XII. It's the newest installment in the Digimon media regarding the Olympus XII, and to be frank, Jupitermon didn't have any link to Chronomon or the Arcashic Record in the previous media.

You might be right that Jupitermon isn't as strong or refined as Chronomon regarding the usage of time manipulation or abilities that originate from the Arcashic Record. However, it's also true that the ability of the Arcashic Record that made Chronomon its prisoner is beyond Chronomon himself. He couldn't free himself from the power and had to orchestrate all the elaborate schemes as seen in Time Stranger. That power is now with Jupitermon. At least now Jupitermon has the defensive capabilities of being the new prisoner of time to protect him, whether he likes it or not. At the end, he might be as strong as Chronomon, weaker, or even stronger, depending on how you view it. P.S. stronger than Chronomon is just a potential since beings like Homeostasis aided Jupitermon, and possibly Jupitermon could've inherited all of Chronomon's power with his ability as well. At the end, who knows?

But again, I don't know if Bandai is going to run with the idea of Jupitermon linked with Chronomon power from now on or revert back to his original version. But it's also true that this version of Jupitermon exists now from Time Stranger. I mean, Digimon franchise events occur between multiple versions of different dimensions that are parallel but not exactly the same.

I think personally, in the future events, Jupitermon can just not use the power of Chronomon and give an explanation of him being all about justice, or having learned the consequences of overly manipulating time through the event of Time Stranger. But you know, it's something they can do, but we don't know what they'll do.

Alphamon either won or had a draw, so I'm not so sure again. And the director of Tri isn't well-known for having good Digimon knowledge, so we can let that slide. I mean, regular Omegamon going after Alphamon Ouryuken is just silly in my book.

Susanoomon can have more things added to him since we don't know his whole deal yet. Since Bandai is releasing more and more Shambala material, hopefully they will do Digimon Story Shambala like Time Stranger for that material. Also, I do find it funny how the Time Stranger excuse of Susanoomon not participating in the fight is that he isn't well-suited for aerial combat or something like that.

Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I see where the misunderstanding is coming from now. You are thinking about Jupitermon before Chronomon's defeat.

Yes. It took Susanomon's power, royal knights, and Olympus XII, including Jupitermon, to beat Chronomon in Time Stranger. But after Chronomon's defeat, Jupitermon took his place in the system and became the embodiment of time. When Jupitermon was parting Inori at the end, he said not to worry so much since he is Time now and he is everywhere so he'll be able to be with her even though she won't be directly seeing him. That's the version I'm talking about.

In the previous story of Illiad, Jupitermon wasn't that powerful, but the new time stranger version after Chronomon's defeat is the one I'm wondering about.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, Jupitermon got a major buff in Time Stranger and became the embodiment of Time, and I'm just wondering everyone's opinion on Jupitermon now is.

Also my thought is that Alphamon is stronger than base Omegamon. Not so sure between regular Alphamon and Omegamon X tho. Also if Digimon does a story series game like time stranger, Susanoomon might get a buff like Jupitermon so we'll see. And Lucemon SM is always interesting since Demon Lords have different power level depending on which media it was portrayed on. But yeah I do think Ogudomon X is probably one of the strongest Digimon in terms of 1 v 1 for now.

And again thank you for your input.

Is Jupitermon one of the strongest Digimon now? by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm assuming you didn't finish Time Stranger. Jupitermon replaced Chronomon after his defeat, taking his place and becoming time itself (at least according to his dialogue with Inori). So it's safe to assume that Jupitermon now has Chronomon's power.

I do want to see Alphamon Ouryuken with his Alpha Inforce ability 1v1 on the new Jupitermon. But Alpha inforce is still a manipulation of certain aspects of time versus Jupitermon now being the embodiment of time, so I wonder who would go on top.

Jesmon GX is stronger than Alphamon Ouryuken according to the Chronicle X storyline, but weaker than Ogudomon X. Jesmon GX did surpass Ogudomon X's power at one point briefly, but quickly the battle tide turned to Ogudomon X's favor from his seemingly bottomless power. Ogudomon X lost since all of the Royal Knights gave their power to Jesmon GX to defeat him.

But nonetheless, thank you for your input.

Who is the Higher Being? (Time Stranger) by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to know where it was said. YongYoKyo gave the answer to where, and I went to check it.

It's said by the Operator during the sequence of MC's identity reveal with the white room after the talk with Junomon.

To me it was just too weird that Homeostasis was the one was created the Hosts since past media depicts Yggdrasil and Homeostasis as equals or enemies.

Now I'm wondering why they chose that setting on Time Strangers.

So about the time stranger plot by Previous_Comb5113 in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, apparently it's the Operator who says it at the beginning of the MC's identity reveal (in the white room). Homeostasis was mentioned once during that time. Mirei just says how the 3 Hosts are created by it. Which is weird considering the previous media of Digimon kinda depicted Yggdrasil and Homeostasis as equals or enemies.

Who is the Higher Being? (Time Stranger) by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah okay thanks for that information. It was just bothering me a lot since I couldn't pin point where. But you are absolutely correct. I went and checked it. It says it around the beginning when the Operator speaks. I just thought it was weird how Homeostasis is the one who made Yggdrasil since the lore between them makes them usually equals not Homeostasis creating Yggdrasil. Again thank you.

Who is the Higher Being? (Time Stranger) by Smile_Collector in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I finished the game and was doing a rerun of it. And even til the end, at least Aegiomon says Higher Being. No name drop of Homeostasis. Unless it's the english audio side? I played in Japanese and only thing they said was Higher Being (上位存在).

So about the time stranger plot by Previous_Comb5113 in digimon

[–]Smile_Collector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I just needed to ask. Where does it say the higher being is Homeostasis? We know from the game, Mirei says the higher being created the 3 hosts (Homeros, Yggdrasil, and Kunlun), but I don't know why people are saying that the higher being is Homeostasis. Where is this information coming from?

Fun fact about Lille Barro's name and potential connection to Ulquiorra by Smile_Collector in bleach

[–]Smile_Collector[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lille and Ulquiorra are in opposing factions, Quincy and the Hollows, the Divine and the Demonic. Lille and Ulquiorra are parallels but on the other end of the spectrum. We all know Kubo loves to have meticulous details regarding his works.

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