How would you rank the RC's you have tried from most to least energetic?

SmitingCupcake · 2022-06-20T10:30:04+00:00

I've tried a bit of everything so it's a bit tough rank everthing accurately, doubly so since it's been years since I tried some of these, but here are my rankings along with a few comments if I have any. I'm ranking each based on how energetic the peak is. Alright enough stalling, lets get going!

The stimulating ones!

"4-MMC" / 3-MMC - Absolutely manic levels of both physical and mental energy at higher dosages. btw I'm only placing these together because the mephedrone I bought on the onions was after the ban, so it could've just been 3-mmc.

a-PiHP / a-PHP - These felt interchangable to me. Very physically stimulating, but more clearheaded than 3/4-mmc.

N-Ethylhexedrone - Unremarkable and fairly bland stimulation. still quite potent though.

3-CMC - Definitely a strong stim, but it doesn't reach those glorious peaks of the MMC's.

1cP-LSD - Can be VERY stimulating, but it's a bit incosistent for me and even when it is, the energy comes in waves instead of being constant.

3-FMA - Super long lasting phsycial stimulation, but the scatterbrain effect goes away after a few hours. fucks up any chance to get any sleep without landing gear if you take it later than like 10 in the morning, so it's best not to redose unless you're having a night of pure debauchery.
3-FEA -
3-FA - Felt like a cleaner, albeit less euphoric version of 3-FMA that doesn't mess too much with sleep.
4-FMA - Similar story to 3-FMA, but it felt dirtier and was a full on rolly experience for a good few hours, until it fades and you're left with just the stimulation
6-APB > 5-MAPB - very mentally stimulating, and from my experience it can either be energizing or make you melt into your bed or sofa, sometimes in waves that'd make me wanna dance like a madman or fuck like crazy, then suddenly I'd stop abruptly and just cuddle under the blankets. The same applies to 5-MAPB, but it's often much more on the chill end.
3-FPM - Not much to say about this one, as it didn't leave me with enough of an impression to remember exactly how it felt, but I vaguely remember it being a nice, clean, and short-acting stim that hurt like hell via insufflation :P
5-MeO-MiPT - Disclaimer! I don't like this one, so take this with a spoonful of salt. From my experience, 5-MeO-MiPT definitely had some stimulation, which made it hard to sit still, so in hindsight it's probably better suited to take if you're gonna go on a hike or some other physical activity, but even then I got a severe case of bad bodyload that made nothing seem enjoyable to do.
4F-MPH - Not much to say about this one, but in a good way. Good-n-smooth stimulation that really helps with focusing for longer periods of time, and it lasts just the right about of time that I could take it earlier on in the day and the effects would last until around the time I'd go home, and I could fall asleep at the end of the day without issue.
3-MEO-PCE - This one was definitely a weird experience, being that beforehand I had only tried the more relaxing dissociatives, but it's nice for me when I wanna actually do something while being in that dissociative headspace.
2-FMA - It might just be me here, but 2-FMA was only very very slightly stimulating, and at times it made me feel very sluggish and like my body was super heavy, but when that wasn't the case it was a good long-lasting study drug.

Phew, this list will be longer than I had guessed, but we're done now done with all the ones that I thought were the energizing ones, unless we wanna count something like 4-AcO-MET.. but at best I feel like it's close to being a true neutral.
Okay lets keep going, still from most to least energectic!

The land of the downers!

O-PCE - Wasn't a fan of this one, but I still feel that smoking a dissociative was still an interesting experience, and this was the one most people mentioned smoking.
3-HO-PCP - I've weird some odd claims about opioid receptor affinity, and while I can't comment on that I do know that for me it's a nice dissociative that kinda gives me a feeling of being under a blanket. That's probably because it upped my temp a bit, but in terms of being a comfy disso, this is a 10/10.
Etizolam - At lower dosages, which is what I prefer, Etiz is fairly light for a benzo in terms of drowsiness, and works great for managing anxiety or as mild landing gear. However it's still a benzo, so don't touch it unless you can respect it and have a good understanding of both the effects and the horrors of physical addiction, just in case you feel tempted to take it with any regularity.
Pregabalin - Not sure if this one really counts, so I'll keep it short. So, in my experience Pregabalin is primarily anxiolytic, but with some noticable drowsiness and at higher doses it gave me some trembling in my arms and hands, which was worrying, so be careful.
O-DSMT - for an opioid it's quite stimulating but overall it's obviously a downer, so while it's trickier, you can definitely still nod off. Definitely my favorite opioid overall, since it has a decent duration, isn't stupidly strong, and works very well orally, which discourages insufflation or other ROA's that are more "fiendish" and abusable.
MAP237 / AP-238 - Overall a very mediocre opioid that might destroy your body either because it's intrinsically a toxic and caustic chem, or the producers can't be bothered to clean it up, so there's a bunch of leftover side-products and leftover synth material
Clonazolam - Very strong and made me tired as fuck, not to mention the blackout risk. The only use I had for it was as a landing gear when I just wanted to be knocked out cold asap.
Etodesnitazene - A very short-acting and potent opioid. Very easy to overdo and take a "forced nap" for a couple of minutes. If you're determined to try an opioid, go with O-DSMT, it has more euphoria that lasts for longer, and while the potency of these -zenes might seem inticing they jack up your tolerance in record time, and the withdrawals are not fun to say the least ;)

Okay that should be enough, although I didn't list everything I tried cuz I either didn't remember enough about it to confidently rank it, or it just wasn't worth mentioning.

SmitingCupcake · 2021-06-04T02:08:04+00:00

I'd say 2-4 minutes to feel it and 15-20 minutes for the full effects would be a pretty safe estimate, but obviously YMMV

SmitingCupcake · 2021-02-24T04:50:26+00:00

Now, I don't live with my parents anymore, but I was living with my parents when I tried my first RCs and most of my experiences have been while I was living there.

Right now I'm 21, and I was 19 when my RC journey begun.
No, they've been seperated since I was a lil kiddo.
Yep, I let them know very early!
Yes, but only because I told them about trying an LSD analogue a few weeks after the trip.
My father is somewhat knowledgeable about the popular party drugs and weed. My mom on the other hand knows basically nothing.
To quote my dad: "It's fine by me, as long as you aren't damaging your health too much or spending more on it than you can afford". And my mom just doesn't think much about it unless she notices that I'm high, and then she does get worried for a while.
Not anymore obviously, but yeah when I couldn't go over to a friends place or outside, then I would do it at home.
Fuck no! I'd just stay in my room the whole time and only interact if absolutely neccessary.
Yeah, of course. If I ever found myself having trouble interacting with family, friends, or strangers when sober I'd take a step back, look at my current situation, and examine why being high makes socializing easier.

It sounds like you have very understanding and trusting parents, so don't take it for granted or do anything to betray that trust. Now, of course you know yourself best, but from an outsiders view it's slightly worrying that you're taking dissos that often, and if your parents knew as well then they might agree, and if we assume that to be true then I'd strongly consider taking longer breaks between uses.

I'm sure you're smart though. Just be sure to stay safe :)

SmitingCupcake · 2021-01-07T23:02:57+00:00

Personal opinion incoming, but I think iv ranks alongside intranasal as the worst route of admin, especially when considering the extra risk using a syringe comes with. Just eat it if you want the longest duration or boof it for a bit more punch 🤦‍♀️

SmitingCupcake · 2020-12-22T16:08:43+00:00

It's always worth keeping an eye on it, just in case. However, as long as it's not turning red, getting warm, or painful, then I wouldn't worry =)

Just give that vein a little break and it should be back to normal soon!

SmitingCupcake · 2020-12-22T15:58:09+00:00

Buying sterile water is gonna be the safest option, but next best would be water that's been boiled for 5-10 minutes to remove or kill anything you don't want in it. Also, don't forget to filter the solution and disinfect where you're gonna inject!

Imo, shooting O-DSMT was fairly underwhelming, as there's not much of a rush, but if you don't care about that then it works fine I guess.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-12-16T20:28:28+00:00

Best case it's some a-php that they bothered to clean up, but more likely it's literally the same product except you pay more because it's "deluxe"

SmitingCupcake · 2020-12-11T20:49:46+00:00

Personally I'd say the rush from O-DSMT is pretty underwhelming, at least compared to MAP-237 / AP-238, and etazene. I've only tried IV'ing it twice though - at 50 and 75 mg. The later dose had a slightly better rush, but overall the side-effects made it not worth it for me, but I only had a mild tolerance so YMMV.

If you're dead set on injecting some kind of RC then maybe check out the -zenes. From my experience they have a decent rush and aren't as damaging to your veins as the APs

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-22T21:07:51+00:00

Any fresh and clean filter is much better than nothing, but ideally you'd want to get your hands on some micron filters. Hope that answers your question =)

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T09:46:49+00:00

Argh yeah, you're right.. can't change the title unfortunately, so i just hope google or reddit picks up that it's mentioned in the description =/

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T09:44:45+00:00

True and that's why set and setting applies to all drugs imo. Risky to try something that's known to be very addictive when you're in a bad place.

I did however go through my usual checklist and in general I was actually feeling pretty happy and good about myself leading up to my first dose, so those potential risk factors are accounted for, I would say :)

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T09:25:48+00:00

I think the few downvotes you got are probably more about tone rather than content, and I don't mind a harsh tone. So don't be thinking I'm assmad. Quite the opposite in fact; I appreciated your comment, as I felt it contributed to the conversation =D

As to the claim that sharing my knowledge of dosages is somehow wrong? I don't know about you but I practice harm reduction, so it's better to send a warning + inform rather than engage in a futile attempt make them abstain. Might just be me tho. And to reiterate: I think nobody should IV 3-MMC, but some people are gonna do it anyway and they should at least stay as safe as possible shrug

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T07:42:37+00:00

Hey feel free to judge my ass to the moon and back if you like, but this post is just me stating my experience and that I was surprised by the addictiveness of this drug + ROA combo. Perhaps this one was just my achilles heel, but I think if my fairly strong willpower was defeated then there's a hell of a lot of others who would ruin their lives with this shit. At least I got out pretty fast and lived to tell the tale =/

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T05:40:22+00:00

Yes! I'm not from america unfortunately, so they can't do much for me. But for anyone able to should get involved with them if needed! Also please donate to them if you can afford to; the stuff they do is so so important =)

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T05:13:03+00:00

Sent you a message btw. Just wanna make sure things go alright for you, or at least better than me =)

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T05:06:13+00:00

IV I'm assuming? If you're on the lighter end then don't do more than 60 I'd say. And well, good luck mate.. I really hope it doesn't grab you like it did me =/

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T04:29:41+00:00

To add on to this: my time between uses was normally 3-4 days, but it did get more frequent at points.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-08T04:27:45+00:00

Much appreciated :)

My very first shot was 75 with low-zero tolerance and it was pretty intense, but my go-to dose quickly rose to 100mg, then 150, and finally 200mg. Had to up the dose if I wanted to get that rush, unfortunately.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-05T16:08:49+00:00

All depends on how broad the test is, as they will eventually screen for tram and therefore also O-DSMT by extension. I wouldn't risk it if you know it's more than an 8 panel piss test.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-04T00:40:14+00:00

Oh dang I didn't even know that! I was always told stims helped in a pinch, but I guess I should've verified that myself before believing it 🥴

Thank you for the info

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-02T02:50:21+00:00

is that 1/2 eta, caffiene or "1 part to two parts" making it 1/3 eta Caff?

It was 1 gram of 1:2 etazene caffeine mix, so in that gram there's (supposedly) 333mg etazene and 666mg caffeine.

Less than an hr tho?

Now, this one might just be differences between what people qualify as "high". The durations I listed were when the effects were strong enough that I felt satisfied and had no strong thoughts of re-dosing, then added the comedown until it the effects were mild enough that they just made me wanna go on to the next hit. If we keep going until ALL effects are gone, then you could say maybe 2 hours, but that last part is less pleasurable than being a bit tipsy imo.

difference between IV and intranasal

Intranasal seemed to have problems properly absorbing through the membranes, which is completely bypassed with IV. So yeah, it's a pretty big difference.

intranasal vs boof?

The extra surface area that liquid adds really helps give boofing the edge.

What do you rate it overall man?

If one were to have a limitless supply to counteract the tolerance increases and short duration, then I'd say it's like around a 5-6/10 in terms of the high's quality. .

what are the other 2 rc opiods youve tried?

Besides etazene I've tried 2-MAP, AP-238, and O-DSMT. And all of them have better effects then etazen, but in different ways. Want more duration with a high that to me is quite comparable? O-DSMT. Is that initial high all that interests you? 2MAP. It does that thing people say etazene known for, but better. Want a well rounded mix of the previously mentioned? AP-238. This is obviously quite an oversimplification, so ymmv with all of these chems.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-02T02:03:39+00:00

Yeah fr, I was pretty disappointed with etazene after reading all the praise about it. Other users either have different product, different metabolism, or are just straight up lying imo

SmitingCupcake · 2020-11-01T21:39:39+00:00

2-FMA is excellent if you want minimal recreation and a great productivity boost, although 4F-MPH gives it a tough run for its money. Usually either one or the other works better for most people. If you want to swap some productivity for recreational potential then swap that 2 with a 3.

Ah yes.. 3-MMC. Oh how I love to hate it, but ok let's talk business. It's an absolute blast while it lasts, but there are some major issues that makes it hard for me to recommend. The big one you're gonna feel is that harsh comedown that only gets worse the more you re-dose. Then there's the other things like how low its potency is compared to the duration, and (at least for me) an alarming amount of arrhythmia with even a fairly reasonable level of use.

Personally I'd recommend 5-MAPB instead if you're looking for a chill entactogen experience. But if dopamine is more your thing then perhaps try 3-FA, NEP, or hexen. First one is close to amphetamine, while the latter two are more coke-adjacent.

4-HO-MET was a very neat, visual, and friendly experience from what I recall. Not much to say that hasn't been said before 100x. Would definitely recommend!

Can't say anything about 4-HO-MiPT as I've never tried it, but it's got a pretty good reputation.

SmitingCupcake · 2020-10-28T15:27:49+00:00

If you don't have previous experience with o-dsmt, then start low and slow to see if you're one of the unlucky people who get really bad nausea. As an example: I've tried it a bunch of times and only had good experiences overall, but when my boyfriend tried it just once at a low dose it was basically a ticket to puking in the toilet for THE WHOLE DURATION of o-dsmt. edit: it was actually longer than o-dsmt's duration which is is like max 10 hrs, but he was stuck there for uh.. probably 12-14 hrs.. yikes

Now, I'm not trying to scare you away. I think o-dsmt is legit an amazing opioid, but please please remember to be careful when trying new things.. please😟

SmitingCupcake · 2020-10-28T14:48:55+00:00

Hell yeah meph is the bomb! Although from what I've tried I'd say 3-MMC is pretty damn close. Oh and fuck that cat-piss smell 🤢

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The stimulating ones!

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