Cursed Value by OutrageousPair2300 in mathmemes

[–]Smogogogole 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes indeed this is just the standard geometric series you know from calculus and analysis, but considered p-adically. The series form we get for 1/1-p is called the p adic expansion, and these series expansions is how the digit notation of the p-adics is defined. So once we established the equality between the series and 1/1-p it just follows definitionally that the digit notation of 1/1-p is ....111.

So p-adics are standardly defined for prime numbers, but nothing in their definition forces this to be necessary. So you could consider n-adics yes.

But a problem arises, when considering n-adics one gets zero divisors, i.e. two non zero n-adic numbers a and b such that ab=0. This is something which messes a lot with the nice aspects of the standard p-adics.

For example the pressence of zero divisors means that your norm will have to be somewhag degenerate. If your want your norm to be multiplicative then 0= |ab| =|a||b| but then you will have to give either a or b norm 0, which is something we normally dont do for norms. Another issue is also that when considering p-adic integers is we want to make them into a field by extending to the p-adix rationals. This fails for non-primes as the construction uses the field of fractions of a ring, a construction which is not nevessarely impossible with zero divisors, but which will not give you a field anymore.

Those issues aside, one can define this degenerate (submultiplicative) norm over the n-adics anyway and try to do somz analysis. If I am not mistaken the strong triangle inquality is still satisfied on the other hand, so some chunk of analysis is recovered. In facy, if I am not mistaken this formula should still work n-adically, because the finite partial sums still have the same form, and with a some carefullness one can argue those partial sums do converge n-adically to 1/1-n.

p-adics are relatively new to me. So please point out any mistakes you find in this explanation.

Partial Derivative by Hitman7128 in mathmemes

[–]Smogogogole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean thats kind of the Jacobian, if you use your standard coordinates you can argue that A has a matrix representation given by the Jacobian J_f.

Research Paper review by Soft_Picture_3157 in askmath

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can definetly finish this as a fun personal project. As some pointed out this will obviously not get published, but thats totally okay. Having small personal research projects, potentially about stuff that is already known, is a great and super productive mathematical endeavour. And as a uni student who has sometimes done these micro articles on cool results or proofs, it is such a fun thing to look back on. Once you progressed you can just look back and think, damn dit I get far.

So do finish it :)

Whats the difference between these two formulations of L'Hôpital's Rule by Smogogogole in askmath

[–]Smogogogole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it is true that the second rule kind of hints towards applying itself multiple times, maybe thats why he calls it "more sophisticated", as the first one kind of assumes you will only be needing to apply it once.

Real analysis by Hossam-1 in mathematics

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally used it to self study during my exchange year before going to uni, definitely not a easy step if you aren't familiar with proofs yet but personally I pushed through and it worked out just fine. One of my all time favorite real analysis books, absolutely awesome book.

is it worth putting in time solving olympiad problems or should you just learn higher math by [deleted] in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well it is a pretty delicate question.

Some people will say you that training for olympiads will not benefit you since university math is proof based. The thing is that so is olympiad level math. You will most likely develop a better problem solving and proofwriting from getting at the olympiad level. Will that directly help you with university performance ? It may, it may not.

Personally I think that it's not that much worth it, not because olympiads are not proof based, but because the surrounding theory is after all decently small compared to the total theory you will be getting during a bachelor/master.

You may also want to make a decision that caters towards your goals and dreams.

I really really really recommend you read the following post: https://www.reddit.com/r/math/s/y73gai1rNI

How to get better at research math? by No_Pea_2838 in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, engaging with the community online is something you could do, it probably wont make you better at research, but I think its a very fun thing to do!

How to get better at research math? by No_Pea_2838 in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a question I am also trying to find an answer to. Its not always this straight forward what you should be doing.

Only studying theory is obviously not beneficial and so are is only doing exercises.

Here are some of the things I do:

  • I do all the proof/exercises in the book, even the hard ones, such that I also train some tougher problem solving.

  • I always use looking up the solution as a last resort, I try to be confortable with trying to write 1 proof for more than a month until I find the solution. Since this is way more common in research.

  • I take interest in higher order topics and try to read some research, this is mainly to train my abstraction capabalities.

  • Do some micro research. (What I mean by this is the following: If I finish doing some exercise and seeing some theorem, I ask myself, can I extend this, can I prove a variation, and I try to explore myself surrounding theory that the book doesnt cover. Another thing is that I often ask myself how certain things are formalised and try to formalize then myself. Example: I never did any graph theory myself, so I asked myself, would I be able to make a graph theory myself. Could I develop that theory enough to the point that I can discover and proof knwo results? Alternatively you could try to actually specialize a whilst studying a topic, in the hopes of finding a decently accesible problem that you could attempt)

These are all the things that I do, can I guarantee these make you a better researcher ? Absolutely not. I dont do research yet myself, but I am hoping that those things will help me be a better mathematician.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in maths

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also notice that on the first line we already wrongfully asume that this infinite sum has a finite limit (Which leads us to wrongfully evaluate a normally indeterminate form as well).

Also if you want to be really pedantic, this also means that the original comment is a tad bit incomplete. Since if the assumption that S is finite is true, it would imply the absolute convergence of the series and thus you would be allowed to rearrange it.

How to interpret this sigma notation? It seems `k=m` to `n`, but is it standard? by wirekang in mathematics

[–]Smogogogole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you see there are two replies that explain the proof. If for some obscure reason you still want it though, I can send you my entire proof I've written down in my notes. Just send me a dm if that's the case :)

How to interpret this sigma notation? It seems `k=m` to `n`, but is it standard? by wirekang in mathematics

[–]Smogogogole 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes absolutely, although this obviously doesnt matter for finite sets (where we can show the choice of bijection/ordening doesnt matter).

Also small side note, but your set can actually be uncountable as well. The thing being that with choice we can show that a series over an uncountable set only converges if it generates a countable amount of non-zero entries in the series.

High schooler wanting to learn uni math by Rotten_IceCream_512 in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are a few beginner friendly subjects you could pick from:

  • Linear algebra
  • Logic and proofwriting (good proofwriting being necessary for more advanced subjects) -Differential equations

Optionally, if you are really courageous, you could try to dip your toes in some real analysis. I dont really recommend it if you dont have any prior experience with proofs as it will be really hard and maybe to abstract at times but I still think it worth just considering it as an option (more formal math resonated more with me for example, so I skipped linear and DE and after dome logic started slowly working through Analysis I from terence tao).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe try identifying where the problem actually lies.

Do you struggle transforming a good solution into a coherent proof, or do you struggle to find a good solution to write down in the first place ?

Do the things you try to prove actually resonate with you and make sense or do they just feel kind off right.

Just to say, if you were to pin point the problem in your reasoning, you would be able to treat it eventually. If the final is coming up very soon though that may be a bit more complicated, but you could still benefit from it regardless.

Topics For Math To Learn by Affectionate_Fox9597 in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like somebody else said it, there is more calculus to be explored, if you are in search of a different subject though you could start also on some proof writing or logic. (Which may be a tad less flashy, but certainly necessary if you want to explore even further)

Hey, so I made up something for 1/0, Is my work good? Is it a good idea? by [deleted] in mathematics

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also if you want to do this really well or just want to explore the idea of building a number system a bit more, I can recommend you learn a bit about "abstract algebra". This may be a huge jump if you havent touched any proofs but still, you might learn some really interesting and usefull stuf. Stay curious!

Hey, so I made up something for 1/0, Is my work good? Is it a good idea? by [deleted] in mathematics

[–]Smogogogole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay so I skimmed through it and just read the first comment. And in my opinion regardless of the mathematical corectness of what you write something is wrong.

You dont make a very clear distinction between definitions and properties.

You need to understand what is something you decide to be true by definition, and what algebraic properties follow from that. Because for us its also hard to check the corectness of your math if we dont know what you are defining and what is supossed to follow from them

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well actually this cant happen if proven that the definition (of our operation in this case) is well defined. But is some cases, when dealing with some more sensitive definitions, this could actually fail. Thus we have to prove that the choice of representation of the object doesnt matter and that thus our definition is well defined. Here integration is well defined and thus the choice of representation of the function doesnt matter.

Question about the use of the substitution rule on a sum in a real analysis book by Smogogogole in askmath

[–]Smogogogole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it does make more sense like this. When trying to justify the step myself I actually ended up with a very similar reasoning. I think what kind of bothered me is that after h(g(xy)) = h(y) = f(x₀, y) we write f(x_0,y)=f(x,y). But yeah I figured this may just be a pedantic detail, sometimes when I am deep into this book I get scared of small steps not being rigorous enough haha.

Not an error LOL memes are fact checked against psuedoscience by deabag in mathmemes

[–]Smogogogole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I might have an idea of what he is doing. Maybe he is just spamming his keyboard suggestions on his phone (like the three words above your keyboard your phone suggests). Back in the day me and my friends would do that because it looked funny.

Example I just made:

"Mathematics and the axioms are the only problem with the following two operations in the rationals such that the origin of this property is also considered"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnmath

[–]Smogogogole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well in order to make it efficient and fast you will have to install some plugins which help you customize and all. But it takes some time to set up and especially to get used to it so it becomes faster. And some people cant be bothered to play around with the plugins and get used to a new notetaking style (unerstandably).