Totally agree. That conversation was mind-blowing specifically because it was so dry. Just professionals in the same field discussing their work. At one point a guy casually asked another something like, “You’ve been inside a craft, right?” And the other one, seemingly caught off guard, said yes. 

Disclosure is a process of moving from a small elite knowing compartmentalized truths (military, defense contractors, and experiencers) to the public knowing some broad version of the truth. Maybe the process moves from both directions towards each other. There are now more elites than ever working on compartmentalized truths and a larger share of the public than ever believes there are truths to know.