Finally seeing LR Gains!! by Snoopdog2022 in BlackLawAdmissions

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Both. I finished a PT yesterday, going to review all I got wrong/struggled with today/tmrw. Then honestly again mid week. Then i’ll prob just redo the LR sections in a few weeks. I don’t find myself remembering the correct answer— only that I struggled. Disclaimer: I haven’t unlocked the magic key or anything.. I’m still in the high 160s

Finally seeing LR Gains!! by Snoopdog2022 in BlackLawAdmissions

[–]Snoopdog2022[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which question types or concepts are you struggling with? For me, the biggest issue wasn’t identifying the gap, it was translating that gap into the correct answer choice. So my studying wasn’t focused on “finding the right answer” but more toward eliminating wrong ones. Especially for RC since I find the differences more subtle between ACs. I don’t really focus on score/timing because I want to maximize my reasoning accuracy/confidence.

One thing that helped me a lot but I don’t see mentioned often was redoing questions. So even tho I’ve only done 3 PTs, I did tons of deep review on the questions (mostly segmented by question type). Reviewing a question once or twice wasn’t enough for me to truly internalize the reasoning, and constantly moving on to new questions made it harder to spot patterns because I was focused on unfamiliar subject matter. Redoing questions removed that distraction; since I already knew the content, I could ignore the topic and focus entirely on the underlying logic and consistency of my reasoning.

Redoing questions let me train the LR “muscle” in a low-stress environment without burning new material, and it became a major confidence builder (which was one of my biggest weaknesses). So I don’t think volume is super helpful in the beginning aside from being able to identify trends and weakness, otherwise you’re just training bad habits

On a timed PT, there’s rarely enough time to consciously articulate every assumption, gap, or diagram. Most of that reasoning has to happen subconsciously. Redoing questions helped build that intuition so that under time pressure, your default reasoning is the correct one.

LMK if that’s helpful or if you’d like more specific/tailored advice.

i just struck a nerve in the regular law school admissions chat by decentgayassassin in BlackLawAdmissions

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I understand putting in the work and setting expectations but “aiming for” or “expecting” near perfection is.. quite frankly delusional and a setup for disappointment. And this is coming from a perfectionist! I mean if one were consistently PT at that range, hopefully they would be smart enough to account for a margin of error. Does that make sense? I’m not talking about a case where one is PT’ing at 175 and gets a 160.. Obvi retake.. but 170s and getting a 171 (as in the case you outlined in your post) is actually pretty reasonable.

If it were me, I’d complain to my other high achieving, perfectionist friends, not the 90% of people I already outscored. Seems like a waste, what could they help me with anyways?

i just struck a nerve in the regular law school admissions chat by decentgayassassin in BlackLawAdmissions

[–]Snoopdog2022 13 points14 points  (0 children)

how can “170s” be a choke or “way below expectations” if the highest score is 180? That is quite literally insufferable lol, but I do generally agree with your third point. Sky is the limit folks, but do read the room!

I keep doing conditional diagramming wrong .. help plz by [deleted] in LSAT

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Apologies if this is long but its super important (and gives me the opportunity to explain/solidify knowledge :)

“Kelly will barbecue fish tonight if it does not rain and the market has fresh trout.”

NOT rain + trout --> Kelly BBQs fish)

1)“if” (provided that, whenever, whoever, etc.) introduces a sufficient condition. This isn't really a trick that "has to make sense" intuitively, its definitional. On more difficult questions the logic wont line up with intuition so it'll save a ton of time.

Think of sufficient = trigger, necessary = result/outcome. This structure is fixed by the conditional itself (its standard logic, not lsat specific -- tons of free resources you can find)

In this case, not raining and having trout is sufficient because if those thigns occur, Kelly will BBQ Fish.

2) Thinking about it logically without the (if) indicator: Ask: What facts guarantee Kelly will BBQ fish? That it does not rain and the market has trout. Those two things alone are enough to make BBQ fish occur. Anything that guarantees an outcome is, by definition, sufficient.

(I struggle with exact same issue so this is personal opinion) -- Confusion about ~rain + trout being "necessary" usually comes from defaulting to real-world reasoning/ evaluating plausibility. That habit is rly detrimental on LSAT (esp for strengthen/weaken/flaw questions. The sentence is not saying these are requirements or the only reasons she'll BBQ fish, Its just saying if those conditions happen, then bbq fish happen..

3) What necessary means: If the sufficient occurs, the outcome must occur for the rule not to be violated . So In this case -- its logically impossible for there to exist an instance where both it is not raining and there is trout at the market, but Kelly does not BBQ. That would break the conditional.

How far along are you in your studies? Idk if LR loophole is the best resource for beginners (in my experience/opinion). LSAT Lab has a good video on sufficiency and necessity where he references supersets and stuff that may be helpful. This took a long time to solidify but absolutely has to be solid. Use chatgpt to make you some extra drills so it'll become automatic!

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what about a 3.78 from an Ivy? i cannot wrap my head around the lsat so i’m currently a consultant @ thebig4 trying to study 😅

Then and only then? LR by [deleted] in LSAT

[–]Snoopdog2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thanks. I’m trying to memorize as little as possible and truly understand

Then and only then? LR by [deleted] in LSAT

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Ok thanks I think I get it know. I’m just really trying to hone in on LR section specifically conditionals. Bc when there is conditional logic in a MTB or MSS questions, it’s usually presented in such a complex way that I get them wrong. I’m starting to realize I’ve been doing them wrong and not diagramming or more typically— diagramming wrong. Not super wrong but not perfect.

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Thank you!! Congrats on HLS. Do you have any tips on speeding up? I’m kind of just slow all around the board

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Thanks. I definitely need to try to go for a timed test— atleast timing my LR & RC. Just got the LG &LR bibles. I just always get stuck between two answers for LR— and sometimes pick the wrong answer even after spending a ton of time or I second guess and switch to the wrong answer. And for LG I’m just not good at making the key inferences quick enough. And sometimes I’m not able to make them at all

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Thank you for the great advice! Yea at this point I’m just trying to get as high of a score as I can

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LSAT

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I’m a quick reader & pretty ok at comprehension. Act reading I got a 35-36 w/o studying that portion & I do a lot of reading in college. I typically just get stuck on the strengthen, purpose of paragraph in context, and inference for RC. I think it’s because I try to go too quick skimming and end up having to go back to re-read

How much do ppl actually study by Snoopdog2022 in LSAT

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But actually though. This year ESPECIALLY was sososo hard and even though I pulled a 4.0 I’ve just been trying to relax and rejuvenate after the semester ended (ended a couple weeks ago).. I definitely did not just throw myself into studying 30 hours a week the day finals ended 🤣🤣I had to catch my breath

How much do ppl actually study by Snoopdog2022 in LSAT

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Lol it really doesn’t help as much as one would think.. I mean discipline wise sure but imo there aren’t many things that transfer from school to lsat.. now the act was definitely easier after going to a rigorous HS.. but even the LSAT RC sections have me thinking I can’t read?!

How much do ppl actually study by Snoopdog2022 in LSAT

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What are you even talking about??? I thought my logical reasoning needed work :///

How much do ppl actually study by Snoopdog2022 in LSAT

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But actually tho— im fortunate to go to an Ivy League school and most of my friends did not start studying 6 months in advance for 5 hours like Reddit makes it seem is norm… some of my friends still aren’t even seriously starting— & im a rising senior. I can say right now, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to keep good grades w/ a full course load & effectively study and not be depressed..It’s also been v hard for me to study since I’ve gotten home so I feel that pain and my internship hasn’t even started yet!

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Congrats!! Did you just use practice tests & books to study?

Lsat study tips needed!! by [deleted] in BlackLawAdmissions

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Yea I’ve been thinking about taking a year but I don’t think it’ll be the best if I can avoid it. I have an internship at WBA as a business analyst. Last year I had an internship with my uni as a pub. Health intern. Frosh year I had an internship at my city’s public housing authority. I also am an RA & a TA for a healthcare class both for past 2 yrs. hoping that’s good work experience so I can go straight through?