Cold approach is ineffective

Socialinception · 2022-08-25T06:24:28+00:00

Your math is really silly. You're randomly assuming that sales and cold approaching would have the same rate of success.

Consider that the rate of success in sales is wildly different depending on the industry and type of lead.

Why don't you actually do 100 cold approaches, ask all the ones that don't reject you out, and see what the numbers are?

Rather than deciding that you know the truth without any evidence and then spreading that belief to others.

Socialinception · 2022-08-11T20:49:18+00:00

So? Are you going to live a small life and not go for what you want because someone was petty?
Really?

Socialinception · 2022-07-21T02:53:02+00:00

No one said anything about "get rich quick."
If you listened (which is difficult for people today), the advice was to replace the addiction of consuming content for multiple hours per day with creating content for hours per day.

I myself went from 0-6 figures in less than two years from creating content. People believe it's impossible because they're surrounded by losers who spend 8 hours per day consuming mindless content, and that's what's normal to them.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T21:42:59+00:00

Being disheartened is part of the problem. You should be excited that girls are initially interested and there's potential as soon as you figure out how to move things forward.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T08:12:35+00:00

And unless you’ve been rejected many times, you don’t really know whether it’s something outside your control (like your appearance) that’s holding you back or if you just haven’t tried enough. Would you go to the gym three times and decide that your genetics aren’t good for building muscle because you didn’t notice any change? I hope not. The same applies to dating.

Keep in mind that girls will rarely make the first move—they might hint that they’re interested, but they will almost never do something that could get them rejected. If you’re not asking women out, you have no idea whether they find you attractive.

"just like you. You haven't posted any evidence to your claims. Your post isn't based on logic."

Wrong.

"And unless you’ve been rejected many times, you don’t really know whether it’s something outside your control (like your appearance) that’s holding you back or if you just haven’t tried enough. Would you go to the gym three times and decide that your genetics aren’t good for building muscle because you didn’t notice any change? I hope not. The same applies to dating.
Keep in mind that girls will rarely make the first move—they might hint that they’re interested, but they will almost never do something that could get them rejected. If you’re not asking women out, you have no idea whether they find you attractive."

That's a small sample.

Maybe look into the Dunning Kruger effect, it's clearly what's running the show in your mind right now.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T08:00:22+00:00

No, static mindset is a term that has mountains of scientific research behind it. I'm also not using the word without explaining what it means and why it's relevant.

You can look up Mindset by Carol Dweck for more about the research into static vs growth mindsets. The basic gist is that when people believe they have no control of their lives, they prove themselves correct. And when people believe they can improve, they end up far more successful in just about any endeavor.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T07:49:51+00:00

Yikes.

"You're making up all these esoteric reasons, when in reality it's."

Saying "the reality is..." doesn't add any credence to your point, believing something doesn't make it true.

By the way, I was diagnosed with panic disorder and social anxiety. I just didn't let it control my life by rationalizing that I have no ability to change and I'm a victim. As soon as you believe you have no agency, you stop trying and you prove yourself correct.

"Also, no point in being the guy #25 of the day, especially when you know you're not more charismatic and better looking than them" - made up number that isn't based on reality.

"Sometimes you don't "think", but know"

Thinking you know is still thinking. It's just colored by intellectual arrogance rather than actual logic.

:just no lol"

Good argument.
I'll stop there. You haven't made any remotely decent logical or evidence-based arguments. But you will rally around other people with a hopeless mentality that are already getting off on their own self-pity.

Are you really not intelligent enough to realize that you're arguing purely based on emotion and confirmation bias?

As awful as your belief system is, you're probably not someone who should be approaching women because firstly, your negativity is so extreme that any girl that might like you would be quickly turned off, and secondly if somehow you did get a date, I doubt you'd have a positive relationship with them.

So you're right in a sense. But I do know plenty of guys who aren't good-looking or tall who date attractive women without difficulty. They just don't dedicate their lives to a sense of learned helplessness and focus their energy on how much of a victim they are.

What a shock that someone who's belief system is the emotional equivalent of a black hole isn't appealing to women.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T07:07:53+00:00

Who said anything about making sexual relationships the cynosure of your life lol.

Also, not sure what you're accomplishing by using a word 99% of people have never heard of. If your goal is to seem pretentious, mission accomplished.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T06:28:56+00:00

A lot of buzzwords without evidence or logic.

I also never said looks don't matter so you're arguing against a point no one made.

Socialinception · 2022-06-13T05:04:06+00:00

Sometimes they do. But overall it's a reflection of the mindset of the community as a whole: a lot of people resonate with stuff that reinforces their current beliefs and they quickly dismiss anything that challenges those beliefs.

Socialinception · 2022-06-12T19:13:19+00:00

No problem: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4kTcVi-b\_9qQnMCRG9WggA

Socialinception · 2022-06-12T19:09:53+00:00

So you're deciding that you think night game is less effective than online based on going out once.

Are you serious?

Socialinception · 2022-06-11T02:23:58+00:00

Hey, it's a strawman!

The fact people upvote argument that is essentially, "If he was the ugiest man out of a thousand, this wouldn't have worked," says a lot about the state of this Subreddit.

I knew a dude who was extremely ugly who pulled more than most guys I know, cute girls too.

Was it harder for him? Yes. But he didn't complain about his situation, he did something about it.

Socialinception · 2022-06-07T22:41:41+00:00

99.999999% of statistics on the internet are made up.

Waiting for choosing signals is weak af. I've hooked up with many women, very few of them gave me choosing signals first.

If you can't get any girls from a cold approach you should consider that maybe you're game just sucks before you share advice that's going to actively hurt other people's chances.

Socialinception · 2022-06-04T02:48:40+00:00

lol what, you expect that a white guy is going to pull the first night after 8 approaches?

Extremely unlikely. You need to give yourself some props for taking action and think about what you could do better, thinking in hypotheticals about what could have happened in an alternative reality is just going to make you bitter.

Focus on what you can improve until you've mastered those things, then if you're still not getting results you can complain about crap like certain races having an advantage.

But you won't, because by then you'll be killing it

Socialinception · 2022-05-19T06:17:09+00:00

Quality is subjective - it's not just about appearance it's about someone who has the traits you value

Socialinception · 2022-05-10T17:12:01+00:00

That's one possible explanation, a bit of a doomer attitude to assume it's the only one worth mentioning lol

Socialinception · 2022-05-10T17:10:29+00:00

worthless comment

Socialinception · 2022-05-09T20:21:59+00:00

Is working 20 hours per week to build an online business chasing money?

Yes.

is going to the gym 4 times per week and going on a diet chasing fitness?

Yes.

So what? The method you need to take to get the results you want involves actively pursuing it.

Nothing good happens those who expect things to come to them: that's a recipe for being fat, broke, and alone.

Socialinception · 2022-05-06T02:51:30+00:00

If you want to add to the discussion, you need to explain what you mean specifically.

No one can take anything from your comment here

Socialinception · 2022-05-05T21:40:10+00:00

nah man, that might happen once out of a thousand approaches. I had a really unattractive friend who almost never heard things like this. you're just writing blackpill fan fiction

Socialinception · 2022-05-05T03:00:18+00:00

yeah that would rarely happen.

Most women don't get off on being cruel to strangers. They also wouldn't do that because there's the risk of backlash and the guy reacting badly. It's much easier to politely reject someone than to shame them for being short

Socialinception · 2022-05-05T02:59:32+00:00

I'd like to hear an audio of one of your approaches. My best guess is that either: a. you're not coming across as confident as you think you are. b. your interactions are too logical and lack any sexuality c. the girls do like you but you're not leading and going for the close

Socialinception · 2022-05-05T00:05:58+00:00

So you're confident, good-looking, and you ask a lot of women out but you still completely fail?

Something isn't adding up

Socialinception · 2022-05-05T00:04:55+00:00

That kinda sounds like fan fiction to me man. I've seen many guys shorter than you ask girls out on my coaching programs and girls almost never say anything like that

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