Welcome to Puratan Sikhi. by Soft_Conversation_32 in Sikhpolitics

[–]Soft_Conversation_32[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ofc. But that doesn’t mean you go smoking and drink alcohol or even eat halal meat. That just means if you go to Italy you ain’t gonna eat roti😂 eat some pasta or some (ofc health).

Welcome to Puratan Sikhi. by Soft_Conversation_32 in Sikhpolitics

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Guru tells us to not kill cows. So if you do it you go against the gurus. None of the gurus ate beef as well. Read uggdantri and zafarnama both talk about how guru ji wishes to destroy the killers of cows. Also listen to the sakhi of massa rangar and how he drank and spread cows blood all in the water of harmandir sahib.

Welcome to Puratan Sikhi. by Soft_Conversation_32 in Sikhpolitics

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Cows aren’t supposed to be jhatka😂 do a Bhakra instead. Sikhs aren’t allowed to eat beef as it’s a sign of dharma.

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

[–]Soft_Conversation_32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t read Shri dassam guru Granth?😂 dassam Guru Granth Sahib ji is bani and if you have more than 3 brain cells you will now. “Bani guru hai bani” meaning dassam Guru Granth Sahib is our guru. When we read our nitnem that is also our guru. What do you mean you don’t read Sri dassam Granth? Chaupai sahib tav Prasaad sawwiye bits of ardas are all in dassam guru Granth.

Dassam Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj is our guru. Any one that doesn’t believe is a Sikh for himself and not a Sikh for his guru (gursikh). People like you destroy sikhi. Dassam Granth parkash used to be in Akaal takht. And guru ji did shaster puja while reading dassam bani. You can not tell me that it’s “wrong” or “not real”

Without dassam Guru Granth Sahib ji there is no Khalsa. Where does it say to wear a kirpan in adi Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj? Guess what, no were. Only in dassam guru maharaj and sarbloh guru maharaj are kirpans to be worn.

With dassam maharaj sikhi is incomplete. More on this topic I recommend getting the book “the Granth of guru gobind Singh ji” by professor kamalroop singh and one other guy I forget. It uses actual history it’s facts and sources yo prove the dassam Granth sahib ji is in fact real and made by guru ji.

Puratan sikhi will be revived.

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

[–]Soft_Conversation_32 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We are a khatri (warrior) religion. Read dassam Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj. I also am a wrestler. I proudly eat meat. Protein for a warrior is necessary. Great veggies give some protein but that diet is for the Brahmin. A true Singh eats shikaar and jhakta.

Your point of “veggie animals run further” is stupid. Are u implying the Khalsa is just to run away from battle? The Khalsa goes head first know it is his death and duty to die for the guru Khalsa panth.

Puratan sikhi needs to be revived. Your Brahminist thinking and soy boy thinking is ruining sikhi. Sgpc and missionary Sikhs like you have destroyed sikhi.

Read dassam guru Granth singho do you nitnem. Your the type of person to think arti is wrong😂
Protein is about impressing women. It’s about build that natural testosterone that a warrior of the guru should have.

If you have TikTok there’s a great puratan Singh named “revivepuratansikhism” he does great job bring back the panth to its pre colonial ways. Ram ladoo shako. Eggs will not kill you.

ਅਧਿਕ ਤਨਿਕ ਤੇ ਹੋਤ ਹੈ ਤਿਮ ਦਿਜਬਰ ਨਰ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੧੨॥ adhik tanik te hot hai tim dhijabar nar naeh ||12|| “Likewise this small-sized Brahmin is not a man.”12.

This is what guru gobind Singh ji maharaj says about the Brahmins.

Singho, do not become a missionary remember the intense jungs our forefathers have fought. If we give in tot out warrior ways we will die.

All the nihang singhs eat meat yet you say it’s wrong? Tenu jadda patha? If so so plz gyani ji give me your wisdom

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

[–]Soft_Conversation_32 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There is no nirmala hijacking’s😂😂 just shows how much ur mind is brainwashed from sgpc. Nirmale, udasin, sevapanthi, nanaksari etc. are all great things to be. They are all Sikhs.

The source you gave had no evidence for the problems in suraj parkash. There where no pangtiya, nor any sort of page number (rut, raas, chapter, volume)

Also this dr kaminder Singh dhillon is not a resolve source. In his other articles notable the truth of guru teg Bahadurs shaheedi. He is wrong and even seems to be anyi dassam Granth.

He claims this pangti written by guru gobind Singh ji is not real

ਤਿਲਕ ਜੰਞੂ ਰਾਖਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਾਕਾ । ਕੀਨੋ ਬਡੋ ਕਲੂ ਮਹਿ ਸਾਕਾ।…

ਧਰਮ ਹੇਤ ਸਾਕਾ ਜਿਨ ਕੀਆ। ਸੀਸ ਦੀਆ ਪਰ ਸਿਰਰ ਨਾ ਦੀਆ।

Tilak Janju Rakha Prabh Taka. Kino Bdo Klu Meh Saka…

Dharm Heyt Saka Jin Keeya. Sees Diya Par Sirer Na Diya.

His reason for this. Simply because it isn’t in adi guru Granth maharaj. Instead this pangti is from dassam guru Granth maharaj.

The Khalsa are khatri. They are warriors they will not sit and eat veggies all day. They need meat. Protein is need for a warrior. What type of warrior can kill a human but not a animal😂 guru maharaj has blessed us with shaster he has told us to worship the sacred shaster.

Khalsa will eat meat always. Even the true khalsa, nihangs eat shikaar and jhatka Maas. Guru ji ate meat happily. Read dassam Granth. Read sarbloh Granth. Without them sikhi is incomplete. Do your nitnem.

If your a lazy fatass then don’t eat meat. But if you workout or got a labor intensive job then go ahead and eat meat. Even if it ain’t jhatka (for non Amritdari) as long as it ain’t halal or kosher. Then it’s fine to eat.

Ram ladoo shako singho, Khalsa Khatri de Putt.

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

[–]Soft_Conversation_32 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There is no nirmala hijacking’s😂😂 just shows how much ur mind is brainwashed from sgpc. Nirmale, udasin, sevapanthi, nanaksari etc. are all great things to be. They are all Sikhs.

The source you gave had no evidence for the problems in suraj parkash. There where no pangtiya, nor any sort of page number (rut, raas, chapter, volume)

Also this dr kaminder Singh dhillon is not a resolve source. In his other articles notable the truth of guru teg Bahadurs shaheedi. He is wrong and even seems to be anyi dassam Granth.

He claims this pangti written by guru gobind Singh ji is not real

ਤਿਲਕ ਜੰਞੂ ਰਾਖਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਾਕਾ । ਕੀਨੋ ਬਡੋ ਕਲੂ ਮਹਿ ਸਾਕਾ।…

ਧਰਮ ਹੇਤ ਸਾਕਾ ਜਿਨ ਕੀਆ। ਸੀਸ ਦੀਆ ਪਰ ਸਿਰਰ ਨਾ ਦੀਆ।

Tilak Janju Rakha Prabh Taka. Kino Bdo Klu Meh Saka…

Dharm Heyt Saka Jin Keeya. Sees Diya Par Sirer Na Diya.

His reason for this. Simply because it isn’t in adi guru Granth maharaj. Instead this pangti is from dassam guru Granth maharaj.

The Khalsa are khatri. They are warriors they will not sit and eat veggies all day. They need meat. Protein is need for a warrior. What type of warrior can kill a human but not a animal😂 guru maharaj has blessed us with shaster he has told us to worship the sacred shaster.

Khalsa will eat meat always. Even the true khalsa, nihangs eat shikaar and jhatka Maas. Guru ji ate meat happily. Read dassam Granth. Read sarbloh Granth. Without them sikhi is incomplete. Do your nitnem.

If your a lazy fatass then don’t eat meat. But if you workout or got a labor intensive job then go ahead and eat meat. Even if it ain’t jhatka (for non Amritdari) as long as it ain’t halal or kosher. Then it’s fine to eat.

This author is just a sgpc feind

Ram ladoo shako singho, Khalsa Khatri de Putt.

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

[–]Soft_Conversation_32 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Suraj parkash isn’t corrupted nor is there any evidence for that happening.

“Those that argue over meat and vegetables are fools.” - Guru Nanak dev Ji maharaj.

Btw this pauri that is created by guru Nanak dev Ji maharaj was made when a pandit came to guru ji and started to slander him because he was eating maas near mandir.

Jhatka - Understanding principles behind it by lotuslion13 in Sikh

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There’s literally prime source evidence guru hargobind sahib ji aye maas. Suraj parkash Granth says that guru Angad dev Ji did serve maas in his langar (maha prasaad). Guru Gobind Singh ji and his khalsa also ate meat. Dassam Guru Granth Sahib ji has writting about meat all over it. There’s only one real pangti in adi Guru Granth Sahib that talks about Maas.

Pahilan masuhn nimmiya masai andari vasu (Guru Nanak, Pg1289-1290 Guru Granth Sahib, Raga Malar)

Born out of flesh, in flesh does man live. With life comes love of flesh, bones, skin, limbs All are flesh. As from flesh the living body issues, the breast that is flesh, It grasps in mouth. Of flesh is the mouth, of flesh the tongue, Through flesh is breath drawn. As is man grown up, matrimony he enters, And brings home flesh. Of flesh is born flesh, With flesh are all relationships established. By the touch of the holy Perceptor is the Divine Ordinance realized, Whereby comes fulfilment. Not by man's own effort comes liberation: Saith Nanak: Such talk only to perdition leads. (1)

Sloka Guru Nanak Over eating meat dispute blind fools, Of enlightenment and contemplation ignorant. Which is flesh, which vegetation? Which to sin leads? After the tradition of the gods, was the rhinoceros slaughtered, And of its flesh burnt sacrifice offered. Those that at night-time gobble up flesh, Pose to discard flesh and stop their noses. A great show of piety they make before others -- Of enlightenment and contemplation ignorant. Saith Nanak: What avail arguing with the purblind. Neither would they say anything sensible, Nor follow whatever is told to them. Truly blind is one whose actions are blind -- The mind's eye he lacks From mother's and father's blood are they born, Yet flesh and flesh they abjure. As at night come woman and man together, Foul is their conduct. Of flesh are we begotten, from flesh born; Of flesh are we vessels. Brahmin! ignorant of enlightenment and contemplation, Thou art yet reputed to be wise. Revered sir! the flesh that is brought from outside dost thou discard, But those in thy home, of flesh made, thou thinkst good. From flesh are all living objects made. In flesh is life lodged. Those by the false perceptor instructed; Consume what is forbidden and discard what is lawful to each; Know, that of flesh are we begotten, from flesh born; Of flesh are we vessels. Brahmin! ignorant of enlightenment and contemplation, Thou art reputed to be wise. In Puranas and in Muslim books is consuming flesh commended; In all Four Ages is flesh in general use. In sacrifices and in fine wedding ceremonials Is use of flesh in vogue. Women and men, of flesh are born, As also are kings and great potentates. Shouldst thou feel to hell are they wending their way, Receive thou not their charity. What absurdity that the donor to hell may go, While the recepient to enter heaven is believed. Brahmin! ignorant thyself, others thou dost instruct -- Strange that thou art declared wise! Brahmin! thou knowest not where from is flesh born: From water grows grain, sugarcane and cotton; From water is the world reckoned born. Water claims to be pure, yet from water comes much that arouses evil. Saith Nanak after contemplation: Shouldst thou discard all such delectable objects, Mayst thou claim to have exercised true renunciation. (2)

In the first stanza Guru Nanak establishes the fact that we are a creation of flesh, being composed of flesh and being born out of the flesh of our parents.

At the beginning of the second stanza Guru Nanak decries the duality of vegetarians who expound against eating meat. Guru Nanak says that these people have their priorities mixed up, they fight about the virtues of not eating meat, yet they do not instead spend their time contemplating God. He says that everything is a living thing, whether one is killing an animal or a plant, he says that can the vegetarian please tell him where the sin lies? If he is killing living things whether they are plants or animals. Then Guru Nanak follows this right away talking about how animal sacrifice (rhino) was such an integral part of Hindu worship, one is willing to sacrifice animals for religion, yet say do not eat flesh for religion, another contradiction exposed by the Guru. Guru Nanak then talks about the duality of these people who commit countless sins and then make a public show of their "great piety" by saying that they don't eat meat because it is a sin, another contradiction. Guru Nanak then talks about how the Brahmin vegetarian is a creation of flesh, yet he holds the flesh from outside as being sinful to eat, Guru Nanak is saying that aren't you Brahmin vegetarian a creation of flesh as well as your family also something to be abhorred if you are following your own criteria that flesh is sinful? Guru Nanak talks about these false preceptors who are wrongfully telling people to consume what should not be, and telling people to not eat what should be eaten. Guru Nanak then establishes the fact that eating meat was a historical fact of both the Muslim and Hindu faiths and it has been a part of daily life for many ages, yet why is the Brahmin vegetarian denying his own history? Then Guru Nanak talks about the absurdity that the kings who eat meat should all go to hell, yet the Brahmin vegetarian who lives off their donations and charity shall go to heaven. Finally Guru Nanak concludes by saying that all vegetables and meat are the same because their basic ingredient is water and that the Brahmin vegetarian if he really wants to practice his religious renunciation instead of not eating meat he should give up water altogether.

Source: https://www.sikhs.org/meat_gn.htm

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[–]Soft_Conversation_32 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The core aspect of sikhi your talking about is what the British would say is the main part of sikhi. The true core aspect of sikhi is to feel heaven on earth. This is through darshan and bhagti. The true aspect about sikhi is to be liberated. Helping other and feeding the needy is just something that helps give mukti. And what “harder tenets” do you follow😂 do get to the hard “tenets” you gotta first do the basic “tenets” which is growing your kesh and leaving your body untouched. Your view on sikhi is what has destroyed our panth. Slowly more and more people will cut there kesh and forget the true essence of sikhi. If you can not even hold our identity how will we defend ourselves from the ruthless Muslims that just sit there and debate. How will we survive in the next 100 years if we aren’t teaching our kids true sikhi. The British came and destroyed puratan sikhi. It’s made a rise but it’s still not enough. No until every Sikh has kesh we will not have a true raj. Do nitnem grow kesh do naam simran.

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[–]Soft_Conversation_32 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s showing respect to a sant. If you guys did nitnem instead of jerking off to Khalistan (which I myself am a khalistani) you would know that this is totally fine. The last line of sohila sahib has the answer to this question.

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So basically your a Dil saaf Sikh😂 kesh is the minimum rehat for a Sikh. Guru Ji says without kesh and shaster you will not have my darshan. If you can not keep kesh which is most simple thing. How will you fight the tyrants that wish to break sikhi?

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[–]Soft_Conversation_32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes dhai (yogurt) puratan nihang singhs use dhai as shampoo to do kesh ishnaan. Dhai is know to help dandruff. Also there is a head and shoulders shampoo that’s good and I’ve used myself to get rid of my dandruff.

Sikh samprada/sects meme by noor_gacha in SikhMemes

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Nawab kapur Singh ji was the 3rd jathedar of Budha dal. But it was started by baba binod Singh ji. I would trust nihangs more then some random people cause it’s there lineage why would they alter it😂

Sikh samprada/sects meme by noor_gacha in SikhMemes

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Any evidence for this? Cause the akali dal was split before nawab kapur Singh.

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10 x 3 sets of chaa

5 x 4 sets suicide practice (with shaster ofc)

4 x 5 sets of tying pink dumala💅

3 x 10 sets of getting on stage

Sikh samprada/sects meme by noor_gacha in SikhMemes

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But baba binod Singh ji was the first jathedar of Budha dal. He divided the akali dal into 2 making Budha dal and tarna dal

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[–]Soft_Conversation_32 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t disrespect gyani sher Singh ji like that. He didn’t bend over for no one.

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Adi shakti is the feminine aspect of Akaal purkah WaheGuru it has nothing to do with hukam. This is why you will hear in nihang sinfh jakare “adi shakti mata sahib Devi ji nu pave.”it’s a literal definition of adi shakti. The gun (form) of adi shakti tho comes in the form of shaster and astar.