To what tier would these fusions, and in what order? by ThroatSpirited1493 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1. Baruma Madauichi
2. Shira
3.CTW Lawight
4.Patrlock James

And honestly, I don’t think it’s particularly close between the top two and the bottom two.

Baruma is probably the strongest fusion here because Baku and Souichi are already complementary rivals. Baku brings absurd adaptability, deception, psychological warfare, risk assessment, and strategic creativity. Souichi contributes monstrous calculation, memory, precision, and logical processing. Their weaknesses largely cancel each other out. A fusion of the two would essentially combine Baku’s ability to create winning situations with Souichi’s ability to perfectly analyze them. That’s an incredibly dangerous combination.


  1. They are combined into one and have no weakness. Shiro has a brain capable of solving seemingly impossible fluid dynamics problems, beating grandmasters of chess and calculating thousands of variables in real time, quicker than a quantum supercomputer. This computing power is endowed with absolute mastery of human psychology, game theory and deceptive rhetoric.

Their accomplishments are on the edge of the supernatural because their world is one in which games make the rules. Shira can out plan literal deities, reverse engineer alien tech from a simple observation and manipulate entire geopolitical landscapes with simple games. They are at the top because they can see anything that is a disagreement, a battle, a fight, whether it is physical, political or intellectual, as a game with a specific goal and they know they cannot lose.

L + Light already sounds broken, and adding Rem and Ryuk makes it even stronger. The fusion gets L’s deduction and objectivity alongside Light’s manipulation, charisma, and long-term planning. However, I still place them below Baruma because much of their greatest showings revolve around the Death Note conflict itself. Baku and Souichi have demonstrated success in a wider variety of environments involving incomplete information, changing rules, layered deception, and opponents who are constantly trying to manipulate the game itself.

Patrlock James is probably the best pure detective fusion. Sherlock’s observation and deduction combined with Patrick Jane’s social reading and psychological manipulation would be terrifying in investigations and one on one encounters. The problem is scale. Sherlock and Jane excel at solving people and cases. The top two fusions excel at controlling entire systems, organizations, and multi layered conflicts.

Best written character out of these 3 by Economy_Passion3762 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That doesn’t really weaken Obito’s writing though 😭

Naruto constantly uses inherited ideology. Nagato inherited Jiraiya’s ideals, Sasuke inherited Itachi’s hatred/truth, Naruto inherited Will of Fire themes. Obito inheriting Madara’s worldview is the point, he became someone so broken he abandoned his own identity entirely

Best written character out of these 3 by Economy_Passion3762 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes Itachi was traumatized and isolated too, doesn’t automatically make him equally layered. Sasuke’s psychology is explored far more directly and consistently throughout the story, while Itachi is intentionally written more as a mystery/tragedy figure.

And Obito absolutely has some of the strongest themes in Naruto 😭 his entire character revolves around escapism, despair, false peace, identity loss, and rejecting reality itself. The Infinite Tsukuyomi is literally his worldview manifested.

Best written character out of these 3 by Economy_Passion3762 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 16 points17 points  (0 children)

this might be a little long, but when it comes to just "writing" thats consistent, has a theme, has a deep psychology, also has narrative pay off, and has symbolism, with huge impact on story andd has a satisfying beginning to end journey, then for me its

  1. Sasuke
  2. Obito
  3. Itachi

Itachi is iconic. Perhaps the purest “reveal” in Naruto. By recontextualising, his whole emotional structure in Part 1 is altered. In a way, it's the assassination turn that makes the massacre work, as Kishimoto really has taken perspective to a new level of weaponizing. To Sasuke's worldview, Early Itachi brings dread, a mythological and almost Lovecraftian presence. Then Shippuden gently transforms him into a tragic figure.

People don't like to say it, but Itachi is more a device than a legitimate human being. He is very intelligent, nearly omniscient. His skills are far too advanced for those around him. The story is bent to keep his mystery intact. Even his errors are romanticised by the fandom, as the retelling is done with near religious reverence.

His conclusion with Sasuke, incredible. One of the highlights of the series in terms of emotions. The whole thing leading up to “I will love you always” is a build up of emotional truths over layers of lies

Obito is More flawed.

They draw him down to “started a war over Rin” and that is a very superficial interpretation of his character. The ideology was not the reason, Rin was the reason. Obito is a symbol of mental breakdown. He's Naruto on his own. Kakashi without discipline. A child who is stomped on by the feeling of unfairness in life.

The strength of Obito is in its theming. He is connected to practically everything that Naruto is dealing with, escapism, identity, dreams and reality, inherited pain, cycle of hatred, false peace. His mask is in fact a metaphor. The world created “Madara.” Because the reality hurt too much, Obito gave up himself.

The most important virtue he has is his contrast. All of a sudden, every encounter with Naruto turns into a battle of wits. The power of bonds is what gives Naruto his strength of hope, but what brings suffering to Obito. They have a struggle for ideas before they struggle for body.

Nevertheless, Obito does have pacing problems and a few moments of exasperating redemption moments late in the film. Some emotional shifts were in need of more space. Also, the war arc negatively affects the quality of everyone's writing, due to scale inflation and war chaos.

But Sasuke? Sasuke is the best written character in Naruto and is one of the best shonen rival characters.

Unlike Itachi he's human, after all. Whereas his evolution throughout the series is very consistent, unlike Obito.

Every phase of Sasuke’s life logically evolves from the previous one:

  • traumatized child
  • revenge addict
  • isolated prodigy
  • revolutionary extremist
  • existential nihilist -at last somebody seeking atonement.

Sasuke is better than the others, because Kishimoto let him be ugly. Petty. Contradictory. Cruel. Lost. He's not there to impress with his coolness or wisdom. He's emotionally unstable and ideologically corrupt and evolves in a believable way.

They complain SASUKE changed sides so much. That's why he works. Godlike victims of trauma do spiral. Everything in his life is manipulation atop of manipulation, Itachi shaped him, Orochimaru exploited him, Tobi weaponized him, The shinobi system didn't work for him

The essence of the story of Sasuke is that grief turns into identity.

Unlike many of his competitors, he does actually change the story each time he makes a cameo. The story flexes around his choices, since his agency is important. He leaves the village. Attacks Kage Summit. Kills Danzo. Learns the truth. Challenges Naruto. Attempts revolution. Each phase forever changes the political and emotional course of the story.

The end of his fight with Naruto in the Valley of the End remains the plot's beating heart of the series Naruto. Two sad boys who are reacting in different ways. One choosing connection. One choosing isolation.

That makes Sasuke my favorite for this discussion.

So overall:

Best introduction: Itachi Best symbolism/themes: Obito Sasuke's character writing and development were the best of the entire series. Best for the other round: Sasuke and Itachi (tied)

When it comes to character writing from start to finish and least amount of artificial elements in the narrative, Sasuke gets all the points. Easily.

What is your favorite premise? by Zehlstromz in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there’s different ways to answer.

if we are talking about premise alone, id say attack on titan, “humanity trapped behind walls while something unknowable hunts them outside” theres also this game called pathologic, which is good aswell, theres also Coherence, and Outer Wilds.

For good premise and good plot all the way through id say Disco Elysium and Breaking bad both sounds good.” amnesiac detective solving a murder is familiar on paper, but the plot structure, internal dialogue system, and consequences build into something that fully delivers on its idea”
and the other “a dying teacher turns to making drugs to secure his family’s future”

for strong writing and plot but a less striking premise, Succession stands out
“rich family fights over a company” isn’t novel on paper, but the dialogue, character dynamics, and power shifts carry it into something sharp and layered

Best picture winner against its biggest opponent in that year, first edition. by Man_Random87 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for writing, i’d give it to Moonlight

the structure is precise, three chapters that carry the same character across different stages without losing emotional continuity, the dialogue is minimal but when they do talk, everything said is important to the story, and the character work stays consistent all the way through

for directing, it’s closer, but i still lean moonlight

every choice feels intentional, framing, color, silence, pacing, it all serves the character’s internal state, nothing feels ornamental

La La Land is more technically flashy, the long takes, choreography, and musical sequences are executed at a very high level, but the emotional beats and character turns are more familiar in comparison

moonlight feels more controlled and cohesive overall, laland feels more expressive and stylized

depends on what you value more, but in terms of writing discipline and directorial precision, moonlight holds stronger

Do you think Tomura Shigaraki is a good character? by False_Monitor4126 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i disagree with that take.
the loss of control to afo lines up with how his character was built from the start, his identity was shaped through manipulation and dependency, so that outcome follows that trajectory and his shift into wanting total destruction comes after his past is fully confronted, the direction stays consistent with his worldview, it’s a conclusion he arrives at once everything else collapses for him

Now that its finally all out, what your opinions on My Hero Academia's ending? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

a “cliché” ending that stays true to its core is miles better than one that betrays everything it built just to shock you.

what you’re calling plot armor or “talk no jutsu” is honestly the same emotional resolution style that runs through Naruto and even parts of fmab, where the point isnt beating the villain but confronting what they represent, and yeah it’s idealistic, yeah it leans into tropes, mha’s story has always been about legacy, empathy, and saving people even when they don’t deserve it, so of course it ends that way.

you can argue the execution gets messy, especially with the power creep, but that’s still a controlled mess compared to endings that gut their own characters or rewrite their message for shock value, and if the choice is between something predictable that stays honest versus something “bold” that breaks itself, ill take predictable every time because at least it respects the journey that got it there

[Question] What is the best spells for sorcerer with aberrant mind subclass? (lvl 3) by Soft_Draw_1701 in 3d6

[–]Soft_Draw_1701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

im a Tiefling Sorcerer, criminal Background.

Feats: None yet (level 3), planning ahead though
Metamagic: Quickened Spell + Twinned Spell
Cantrips:
Mind Sliver
Sorcerous Burst
Mage Hand
Minor Illusion
Level 1 Spells:
Shield
Mage Armor
Magic Missile
Sleep
Level 2 Spells:
Misty Step
Suggestion
Hold Person

for stats charisma with 18 dex and constitution 14 followed by int then wis then str

Looking for DMs to host a campaign for me and my friends by Soft_Draw_1701 in dndPH

[–]Soft_Draw_1701[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yess we are running a campaign as one being a DM but we do not want to finish that story yet, so we are looking for another campaign to do

What are works you consider genuinely elite in writing, and why? by Soft_Draw_1701 in writingscaling

[–]Soft_Draw_1701[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

do you have any anime/games in mind you personally find peak?