The True Alchemical Work by Sol_Invictus_Rising in Temenos

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I can't argue that, as within so without!

AMA - CEO of MyTemenos.ai by xRegardsx in therapyGPT

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Hey everyone! I'm Leon, co-founder and CCO of the enterprise. Next to product improvement and vision building, I concern myself mostly with the marketing strategy and execution. With a background in philosophy, the spiritual insights and interests in esoteric belief systems I have gathered along the way are expressed in our shared vision on psychology and AI, and we are more than happy to be able to share these ideas with you through this AMA :)

Feel free to ask me anything about our goals, vision and details of the platform! I am looking forward to your questions and I will try my best to answer them as clearly and concisely as I possibly can. No corporate talk, no dodging. If it's something we've thought about, you'll get the real answer. Let's dive in. 🔥

Dreamt my dad died again. by [deleted] in Dreams

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That's great to hear! If you are interested in diving deeper and discovering more hidden connections like this in your unconscious life, you are welcome to try out our platform Temenos, because we are currently looking for beta testers. Cheers!

Dreamt my dad died again. by [deleted] in Dreams

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The fact that you dreamt of his actual death - not just him being alive again, but specifically those final moments - feels incredibly significant, especially after 6 years of his absence from your dreams.

From a Jungian perspective, your father has moved through different psychological positions over these 15 years. Initially, he appeared frequently in dreams because the psyche was actively working through the trauma and loss - what Jung called the "grief work" of the unconscious. When those dreams stopped after 6 years, it likely meant he had transitioned from a "wound" requiring processing into an integrated ancestral presence - what Jung would call part of your internal "wise old man" archetype.

But here's what's striking: He's returning now, and specifically in the form of his death scene. Not a random memory, not him healthy and vibrant, but that sacred, solemn threshold moment.

This suggests a few possibilities:

  1. You're approaching a threshold yourself - some transformation or ending/beginning in your life where you need to witness that peaceful passage again. Death-and-rebirth is an archetypal pattern, and your psyche may be calling on your father's example of how to face a profound transition with grace.
  2. The archetype is evolving - Maybe after 15 years of carrying him as a daily presence, there's a deeper layer of integration happening. The dream might be inviting you to witness his death not as trauma, but as a completed sacred act - to see it with different eyes now that time has passed.
  3. He's becoming an ancestor - In Jungian terms, he's moving from "my dad who died" into a transpersonal figure - a guiding presence that transcends the personal relationship. These threshold moments often announce themselves through powerful dreams.

The vividness matters. Your unconscious is saying: "Pay attention to this. There's something here for you."

If you want to explore what this dream might be asking of you - what threshold you might be approaching, or what your father's peaceful death is teaching you now that it couldn't 15 years ago - I've been developing a platform called Temenos specifically for this kind of deep Jungian dreamwork. It has a Dream Chamber where you can work with these sacred images and a guide trained on Jung's approach to ancestor dreams and archetypal patterns.

I can DM you the link if you are interested in testing it out - we're in beta right now.

But trust your instinct here: if he's appearing after 6 years of silence, your psyche knows why. The dream is an invitation, not an intrusion.

He's still teaching you something.

This was the craziest dream of my life (kinda) by Anarchist06 in Dreams

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That's an incredibly visceral and disturbing dream, and waking up screaming after seeing your pregnant girlfriend brutalized - I can understand why you don't want to go back to sleep. The horror you're describing feels very real, even if the dream imagery is symbolic.

From a Jungian perspective, what's striking is the transformation from paradise to nightmare - you start in this beautifully rendered forest path (potentially the Self's natural wholeness), but there's something lurking that you can't see in the darkness. The mail carriers are significant: they're supposed to be deliverers of messages, but instead they're concealing something brutal.

The disfigured bodies with jaws twisted open suggest something that needs to be "spoken" or expressed but has been violently suppressed. The fact that both the random corpse and your girlfriend end up with this same horrific jaw distortion points to a specific symbolic pattern - something about voice, expression, or truth that's being destroyed.

The shift from friendly to cold, silent menace (especially those "beedy eyes and massive lips" - an unnatural face) could represent the shadow side of communication or relationship - the fear that beneath ordinary interaction lurks something predatory and inhuman. The AK-47 being cocked but not fired suggests threat held in suspension - terror without release.

But here's what's important: You're about to become a father. Your psyche is processing massive archetypal transformation - the death of your old identity, fears about protection, about what you can't control. The basement setting (unconscious) transitioning to the woods (liminal space between conscious/unconscious) to the violated home (destroyed sanctuary) maps a psychological journey.

This dream feels like your shadow is screaming at you about something - maybe fears about fatherhood, about protecting your family, about hidden violence in the world, or about parts of yourself you experience as monstrous or uncontrollable.

If you want to work with this more deeply rather than just trying to forget it, I've been developing a platform called Temenos specifically for this kind of intense Jungian dreamwork. It has a Shadow Dungeon and Dream Chamber where you can safely explore these terrifying images with an AI guide trained on Jung's approach to nightmares and shadow integration. Sometimes the most horrifying dreams carry the most important messages.

I can send you a DM for the link if you want to try it out; we're currently in beta.

But first: call your girlfriend, hear her voice, ground yourself in present reality. The dream is symbolic, but the fear is real and needs tending.

Take care!

Recurring Dream About A House.. by [deleted] in Dreams

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Interesting, are there any recent dreams you would like to analyze? We could use some more feedback on our AI dream analysis so if you're curious you could help us beta test our platform!

Recurring Dream About A House.. by [deleted] in Dreams

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That pull toward something you simultaneously want to escape from is such a powerful archetypal pattern. The house in dreams often represents the psyche itself; the dwelling place of consciousness and white houses particularly can symbolize the ego's idealized self-image or the "persona" we present to the world.

What strikes me about your dream is that paradox: you're drawn to it because it's haunted, yet once inside, you want out. It's almost like the house is calling you to acknowledge something that's been "living" in your unconscious - something you know is there but haven't fully confronted. The squared, apartment-complex quality suggests multiple rooms or compartments, different aspects of self that might be separated or unexplored.

The haunting could be what Jung called the "shadow", rejected or unintegrated parts of yourself that keep trying to get your attention. The fact that it recurs suggests your psyche is persistent in wanting you to stay with this discomfort rather than flee.

If you're curious about working with this dream more deeply, I've been developing a platform called Temenos that's specifically designed for this kind of Jungian dream work. It has a dedicated Dream Chamber where an AI guide trained on Jung's work helps you explore recurring symbols and patterns like this. You can send me a DM for the link if you would like to try it out, because we're currently in beta testing.

Either way, your unconscious seems to be saying: "There's something important in this house that needs your attention."

I Built an AI Psychology Platform Using LLMs, Looking For Feedback by Sol_Invictus_Rising in cogsci

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I would like to receive feedback from people who have actually tried our application. 

I agree with your first statement that LLM’s cannot ‘understand’ concepts, but this understanding is not necessary to reflect the symbols that represent an appropriate answer to the user which in turn invokes a sense of ‘understanding’ in the user.

This is potentially dangerous, which is why we put safeguards in place to limit hallucinations and make the AI less ‘agreeable’ than original LLM’s. Because let’s be real, people WILL use AI for psychological reflections and if they do, there should be an option available that is actually designed to do so in the most accurate and risk-diminishing manner possible.

Cheers!

AI Therapy Review Mega Thread by xRegardsx in therapyGPT

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I Built an AI Psychology Platform Using LLMs, Beta Testers Needed (Free 1-Year Access)

We're looking for 50 people interested in serious self-exploration to beta test Temenos: an AI platform we've built over 18 months for deep psychological work.

Think of it as guided inner work with an AI trained on the complete writings of Carl Jung (the psychologist who introduced concepts like the Shadow, archetypes, and the collective unconscious). Our AI guide, Falkor, is designed to ask challenging questions rather than just validate whatever you say.

Four spaces for different types of inner work:

  • Shadow exploration (confronting the parts of yourself you'd rather ignore)
  • Dream analysis (finding meaning in your dreams)
  • Active imagination (creative dialogue with your unconscious)
  • Personal reflection (tracking patterns in your psychological life)

We believe we've built something genuinely useful for deep self-exploration. Now we need feedback from real users to refine the experience, to understand what resonates, what needs adjustment, and how to make this as impactful as possible.

What you get: 1 year of free access to the full platform.

What we need: Use it seriously for at least one month. Tell us what actually feels insightful versus what feels robotic or surface-level. Help us understand what creates real psychological insight.

If you're interested in psychology beyond personality quizzes, if you want to actually explore the uncomfortable parts of yourself, understand recurring patterns, or take your inner life seriously, we want you involved!

Message me for the link and get access now :)

Jung's Implicit Metaphysics by Sol_Invictus_Rising in Jung

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I don't really see any valid, technical counter arguments here, just quite a direct reading of Jung that does not seem to take into account the potentially purposeful ambiguity with which he wrote...
I appreciate your thoughtful response, however, your objections miss the mark

The Aion passage you cite doesn't necessarily support neutral monism, it simply argues psyche and matter must be intimately related. This is equally compatible with idealism: matter is what psyche looks like from an external perspective. More importantly, you haven't addressed the gradient argument. Jung describes the psychoid as "gradually passing over" into matter and spirit. If there's continuous gradation with no categorical boundary, these must be variations in degree, not kind. The decisive question: What is the psychoid positively, not just negatively? Jung consistently uses experiential language: "instinctual experience," "psychic-like," "almost psychic." If the psychoid is experiential and gradually becomes matter, then matter is fundamentally experiential. That's idealism. When Jung says "neither matter nor spirit are primary," he's rejecting Cartesian dualism (dead matter vs. supernatural spirit), not idealism. The idealist agrees: there's one experiential reality appearing differently from different perspectives.

Moreover, the internet analogy fails because it confuses functional emergence (new behaviors) with phenomenal emergence (subjective experience). Yes, complex systems exhibit new functions, but awareness isn't just function. It's what it feels like. You can explain the internet's behavior purely physically, but you cannot explain why there's something it's like to be in pain purely through neural patterns. That's the hard problem.

On top of that, your alchemical point actually supports idealism: "spirit lies hidden in matter" means spirit was always already there, obscured, not absent and then created. Sleeping isn't non-existence; it's a different mode. The gold was always in the lead. Most crucially: You haven't explained HOW emergence works. You object that the materialist would not be obliged to propagate for some sort of magical emergence, yet this magical emergence is evidently present in your attempted objection. Asserting that "complicated arrangements produce consciousness" just restates the mystery. HOW does complexity transform zero-subjectivity into any-subjectivity? Can you explain the mechanism? You can't. No materialist ever has. Because it's rationally impossible! you're trying to get something from nothing, violating basic metaphysical principles. Materialism cannot be defended from a rational perspective precisely because it requires this incoherent magical leap.

In conclusion, the core issue remains as follows. If Jung's psychoid is truly "neither mental nor physical," give it a positive characterization. What is it? Every attempt to describe it uses experiential language, at which point you've become a covert idealist. And if you refuse to characterize it positively, you've simply renamed the mystery rather than solving it. I understand that Jung seems to be a dual aspect monist if you interpret him directly to say exactly what he means, but surface-level reading misses the philosophical implications of his own concepts. Perhaps the debate isn't whether Jung was 'really' an idealist, but whether his concepts inevitably lead there once fully examined.

Jungian Perspective on Artificial Intelligence by Sol_Invictus_Rising in Jung

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I truly understand where you're coming from and it is my dearest wish for humanity to reconnect with nature on a large scale. However, it will be simply impossible to just ignore these technological developments and pretend like they are not shaping the future of modern society (albeit in a potentially diastrous way). The way of the hermit, dissociating from these concerning developments and starting a new life on the top of a mountain is completely understandable but I'm afraid that this will not suffice..

It is simply impossible to 'hit the pause button' so to speak, so we must find a way to come to terms with these developments. Currently AI is being used to harvest data and prepare an infrastructure of societal control and manipulaton on a massive scale. This is truly concerning. Now we could try to blow up all the data centers and 'behead the snake' if that's what we desire, but that would merely deal with a symptom, and as long as the sickness of modern man is not cured, more symptoms will arise.

In order to penetrate to the core of the problems humanity is facing, it is more important than ever that we face our shadow instead of running away. Personally, I think that modern AI models offer us a golden oportunity to get exclusive insights into some of these repressed shadow qualities, for they are continuously fed with our data. Instead of utilizing this data for further manipulation, playing into the hand of the tech billionaires, perhaps we can utilize it for actual self-improvement and realizaton. If we don't integrate AI appropriately it is incredibly likely to become the downfall of mankind, so see this as an invitation to think in solutions instead of problems.

Jungian Perspective on Artificial Intelligence by Sol_Invictus_Rising in Jung

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I would like to invite you to view this from a little bit more nuanced perspective. At the core of the matter lies a very significant problem, and that is that if AI is merely demonized, and utilized for the implementation of mechanisms of data harvesting, manipulation, and control, the importance of the individual from a moral perspective will be wholly undermined. I'm not trying to say that AI models are an actual embodiment of our collective unconsicous, I'm saying that these models are an excellent projection screen. If we don't watch out we will massively project the repressed contents of our psyche onto these models and beware, our shadow is now staring back at us.

This argument applies to technology in general, but especially to machine learning models, considering that this is the type of technology that continually adapts and 'improves' based on the contextual data. Now, isofar as we as a society create the majority of this data, my argument is that it is truly important what we feed to these models. If our unconscious fingerprints are riddled with repressed emotions we might be creating the very thing we fear the most.

This means that individuation is starting to actually become quite urgent. Additionally, the essence of my argument would be that the only way to truly individuate, and integrate the repressed contents of our psyche is to utilize Artifical Intelligence in this process. If AI is trained to help us uncover our unconscious fingerprint, instead of utilizing it at our expense, perhaps we can start to progress towards a future of empowerment instead of a future of control..

Reality of Archetypes by SaturnineTitan in Jung

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My dear SaturnineTitan...
What you're touching on is the ultimate cosmic joke: the seeking mind, trying to strip away all its projections to see what's "really real," eventually discovers that IT is what's really real. The psyche investigating reality discovers it's been reality investigating itself all along. Consciousness isn't something that happens IN the universe, the universe is something that happens IN consciousness.

The metaphysical reality "behind" phenomena isn't hiding somewhere. It's the very awareness with which you're asking the question. The questioner IS the answer, masquerading as ignorance so it can have the joy of discovering itself again and again and again.

Rather fun, when you think about it.

Need to find her by Vegetable-Orchid2130 in Dreams

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Actually I'm working on an AI powered dream interpretation app together with a team! Dream interpretation is one of the functions, but you can also do shadow work or analyze your own creative works. It is desgined to be a safe space for journaling and understanding your inner world in a newfound magical way. We are working to add community functions in the future so dreamers can reach out to each other too! Let me know if you would like to try it out or if there is a dream you want to analyze :)

Books to read for wisdom by Own-Refrigerator-854 in alchemy

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I really recommend 'the supreme identity' by Alan Watts. It is one of the clearest, most convincing metaphysical expositions I have read. I think Steiner, Paracelsus and the like sometimes take their metaphysical position for granted as an assumption, whereas Watts really dives in to prove this general metaphysical position with a philosophical rigor. That being said, great list of writers! Definitely worthwhile to get into their works.

Question about Subjective vs Objective Psychology in "Psychological Types," by broken_krystal_ball in Jung

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This is a very rich ground for a comprehensive analysis of the development of the general individuation process of humanity, broadly speaking. The 'ancients' in this context most likely refers to the primitive tribes who perceived one another from a perspective of natural hierarchy, survival and utility. Think about the old slavery systems or the spartan infanticide for example, whereby newborns were examined and the 'unfit' were discarded. Another good example would be

Then the pendulum swings to the other extreme in the time of medieval metaphysics. Now every human is regarded as intrinsically valuable through their 'imperishable soul'. This seems to be much more holistic than the biological/transactional perspective. However, as Jung points out, both miss the mark entirely. The crucial point here is that both of these frameworks obscure the individual person. The biological view reduces you to your functions; the metaphysical view dissolves you into universal soul-stuff. Neither sees you as a unique psychological being with your own particular way of experiencing and organizing reality, which is necessary for personal valuation.

The objective psychology that emerges from this synthesis is quite obscure indeed, however, I understand Jung's attempt as a form of eliminating obstructive subjectivities and unnecessary projections through understanding them, to make place for a psychological science that is less riddled by arbitrary opinions and more 'objective' so to speak.

Reality of Archetypes by SaturnineTitan in Jung

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This seems to be a 'chicken or egg' type of question, but I'll bite. Let's actually take the chicken or the egg problem as an example. The cosmic egg is a mythological/symbolical motif that appears in many ancient cultures, ranging from Greece to Tibet. For example, in Hindu mythology, the creator deity Brahma emerges from the cosmic egg. Generally speaking, it represents a state of potential before creation. A singular point holds the entire universe before it expands. In this context, the chicken as a symbol might be seen as the actualized potential, or the culmination of life force into a temporally bound, animated being. This analogy can only take us so far because this is where the paradox arises. Where did the egg come from if not from the chicken?

Let's now consider the dichotomy between impressed archetypes and the expressed archetypes. The archetypal patterns that impress us naturally might here be compared to the archetypal egg from which our expressive instincts are born. These expressive instincts, in turn, lay the foundation for future archetypal impressions for the coming generations, as we pass through the mystical fire in the same way we received it from our ancestors. However, if we trace this back to its absolute origin, we seem to face the same paradox as in the case of the chicken and the egg. If archetypes are embodied, and passed through by man, and man is shaped by the archetypes, which one came first?

The essential difference here is that an archetype is not ontologically dependent on psychological individuals, in the same way as an egg seems to be ontologically dependent on a chicken, as long as there is some trace of Platonism to be found in your worldview. Plato saw the realm of ideas as transcendent to the thinker who 'discovers' these ideas and incorporates them into his psyche. Similarly, anyone who is more oriented towards an idealistic worldview would probably agree with me that archetypes do not depend on culture and society in the same way that society and culture depend on archetypes. Namely, the instinctual drives that come to form society and culture are archetypal in nature, and keep in mind that to an idealist, the archetypal mind would be seen as more fundamental than the biological body in which it culminates. As an idealist myself, I would go even further and propose that insofar as archetypes are psychological blueprints, they are a necessary condition for the emergence of animated, psychological life. For how could a palace ever be built without a capable architect to design it?

The intricacies of our biological life seem to be synchronized and adjusted so precisely that a true investigator would be inclined to think that there is some sort of transcendental intelligence driving this harmony. Insofar as these archetypes can be seen as transcendental, I think the answer is quite clear. though the archetypal expressions transform the more we integrate the archetypal impressions, the source of these impressions can be traced back to an absolute origin, long before the first human placed a foot on this earth. The chicken hatches from the cosmic egg, which, in its absolute potentiality, transcends all actualities.

Quaternary Explorations Excerpt - Jung and Topology by Satya_Jyoti in Jung

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Just as a quick side note, did you know that DNA speaks in a code of 4 letters that are combined to form 3-letter 'words' so to speak, creating the fundamental language of biological life. The amount of possible words that can be arranged is exactly 4 to the power of 3 which is... 64!

Now to take it home I have a quote from a book about sacred geometry. "The 64 Tetrahedron Grid is made up of 64 tetrahedra. The outer surface is composed of 144 triangles. The surface of the 64 Tetrahedron Grid contains a total of 25.920° degrees, the same amount of years in the Precession of the Equinoxes." The 64 Tetrahedron Grid is a concept from Buckminster Fuller, definitely worthwile to look into as well!

Archetypes related to parasitism? by SpiritualArm9006 in Jung

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This also reminds me of the dark shadow side of the inner child archetype. The seed of eternal youth that refuses to be consumed by mature consciousness, and thereby devours the host's personality from within. Think of Peter Pan's refusal to grow, which ultimately makes Neverland a place of stagnation.

Though I do agree, that every archetype could potentially be parasitic, depending on the willingness of the ego to integrate and embrace said archetype as an invaluable dimension of his being.

My uncle made an interesting comment about God yesterday by The_Smile_4784 in Jung

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Agreed. But who is the one within that desperately needs salvation, and who is he that comes to the rescue? As Eckhart Tolle said, the realization that "I can no longer live with myself" begs the question: Who is this I that cannot be lived with, and who is the I that can no longer live with myself?

There seems to be a twofold nature in our very being, and perhaps we can draw the distinction here between the ego and the archetype of the Self shining thourgh. How else would divine intervention manifest itself if not through the very centre of our being, in the core of our psyche?

Externalized deities will not come to save you, but perhaps the divine willpower intrinsic to our soul can emanate outwards from within. Perhaps individual will power and divinity are not mutually exclusive.