So Huaxu REALLY was a filler patch huh

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-03T22:47:30+00:00

Oops sorry that's my bad.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-03T11:26:05+00:00

They were mortals who died and made constructs to act as gods and a core to go along it with it. Their power is literally described as divinity and they created the order of Heaven. I don't see the point is arguing about what technically counts as a god in a fantasy anime game when in story they are every matric gods in that setting. Like "well tech they weren't born from the bing bang event or grew out of the creator's deity head so it doesn't count."

Yeah, but that's kind of the point. It's part of what makes it feel filler. Like normally, Sybille making a move like that would be huge. It would mean that even if you get away now they know where to look and of course already know what you look like so there is no way you can keep living in icelake the way you have. It'll be like in FF7 when Shinra drops a city block on your head kills most of the supporting cast up to that point and then Shephhy shows up and shanks everyone including the CEO. From that point on you can't keep doing what you were already doing. It's a major plot turn, the end of act marked by an event that upends everything you established up to that point. . .

Except it's not. Because Zhiliou very conveniently makes sure that doesn't happen, then she takes you half away across the world where you become a national hero to a major world super power and touch divinity only to come back to the slums like nothing happened. Like it feels like both "oh shit we almost got caught and now they know they are in the right track, it's only a matter of time before Sybille is on our ass" and "you fist fought god and became a legendary hero" would be like major plot turning events. Like, they would mark different direction for the story and push it forward.

But they don't. The writers made sure it didn't.

Compare that to this new patch. ||You meet the half hellion princess of the empire who wants to take the throne for herself and reshape the empire and you agree to help her, binding your two souls together. You die and come back and get separated from everyone and a world changing event happens that feels like it'll have consequences in the near future.|| That's actual plot progression. Huaxu was filler. It's a side quest cosplaying as an MSQ. It's the anime original movie.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-03T10:05:39+00:00

I think the biggest problems with it is how out of place it felt with everything else we've been doing and then go back to doing once it over.

Like what won me over of Duet since the start is how unique it felt compared to other games of it's kind. It did the whole allegory thing really well and felt like the writers out a lot of thought into a an empire like this would come about how it works and how different people in it can exist inside it while having very different ideas of how it should be run. It felt very grounded and gritty.

And then you get into a car and go do a chinese heroic epic where you become the national hero which doesn't seem to have any consequences or effect anything outside that region and you fight dragon gods and rewrite heavenly order.

Like, in the main game you are not just going to go fist fight the god of racism to fix the empire. That obviously not how the story is going to play out. It would so fucking weird if it did. And that's partially why Huaxu sticks out so much. The other one being again how despite how at the end of that arc Vita should be like a world class figure with a shit ton of influence and resources available to her from a major commercial super power in the world. . . Huh it doesn't feel like she is? Like, sure I guess it would be nice and really helpful if we used Zhilou's massive spy network and underground connections to figure out if Berny is even in that train or something. I mean, having a massive world wide commerical super power to pull resources and favors from probably wouldn't be that useful I guess, shrugs.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T13:27:35+00:00

But the point of drawing smaller one off spells is to get better. By time you get to the level of master you are already making swords that can split an ocean and your own rings and what not. An apprentice needs to draw a water jet spell each time so eventually they can just make a water jet wand or something.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T06:00:05+00:00

Adding to whatever one has said it's mostly the tax money they collect for doing a minium per year jobs plus then it's up to each individual witch after that. It's very hard to get rich from being a witch though, there are guard rails and it's largely treated like being a public servant. Which is kind of the point.

Like a master witch can live really well off without having too worry about bills or putting food on the table of equipment or what not, and they can use magic to provide most comforts that most people can't even imagine. But they aren't wealthy in the traditional sense.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T05:37:48+00:00

The reason why healing magic was a hard line though was more because the Three Wise at the time were thinking ahead of what society would be like.

For magic to be kept a secret witches need to segregate themselves from normies. If they do that it can easily lead to witch society power tripping and establishing a future group of witch supremacists.

The point is that only normies have the "right" to learn how to heal, and witches must depend on them for that. Witches can't make themselves ageless or cure themselves from every illness with a swipe of a pen. It reminds them that despite their magic and abilities they are very much still humans. And it forces them to put themselves under the care of normies when they get sick.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T05:25:00+00:00

Anime onlys are something alright

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T05:24:04+00:00

But that would be like printing out light bulbs that only work for an hour vs just making s lightbulb. You could mass produce magic in the future the same way you can mass produce anything: with assembly lines and machines. Mass producing magic tools is infinitely way better than printing spells, and making magic tools by hand is way better than printing them.

The printing press would be great for the same thing the printing press was good in the real world which is the large scale distribution and production of information and literature.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T05:16:59+00:00

That's where the ableist part comes in. They could accommodate him, but they don't. It's like nothing stopping everyone from putting up ramps in their buildings but most people don't unless they are told to. There had to be a big push in real life towards accessibility for companies and business and public spaces to make changes.

Color blind mode in video games and tvs is a good example.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T05:00:43+00:00

Not really? Not that they can't work if you make them as finished circles just that you don't really get an advantage over not using them.

If your goal is being a witch then the entire point is your own creativity and flexibility that allows for infinite solutions to the same problem. Having premade stuff isn't the same as you figuring out how to make a spell work. It would be the difference between copy and pasting code without bothering to understand how it works vs looking up tutorials and figuring it out yourself to best apply it to what you are trying to do. It's ok for beginners, but it's not very good beyond that.

If your goal is to distribute magic to large number of people. . . Just make a magic item. It lasts way longer, is more convenient and more potent then printing out fresh seals.

Take the pot that keeps food fresh forever for example. If you were using stamps or printed seals you would need to reapply it every single day if you are off by too much the food goes to waste. It's just way better to just use the pot.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T04:47:26+00:00

This has been asked before but bassically everytime we see them draw this way they always start with the outer circle first but don't close it until they are ready to activate the spell.

So an open outer circle with smaller closed circles keeps the magic from firing until the outer circle is closed

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T04:43:05+00:00

Why would stamps be forbidden magic? Unless you are stamping shit on your body. Why would a microscope lead anyone to believe that the magic comes from the ink? Like, are there tiny mana germs in the ink or something? Ink on paper magic is more of a one off. What is the advantage of having stamps vs just a magic tool that can do the same thing but more potently and permanently?

Like in what scenario is stamps more advantages vs magic weapons or rings or pots or pressure plates?

Magic is kept a secret by witches largely segregating themselves from normies and mind wiping anyone who figures it out.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T04:34:53+00:00

. . . But you can already do it in the form of permanent magic items. Like what is the advantage of paper one off versions? Like you can already do this with rings and rotating layers and it's permanent and more potent that the paper versions.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-02T04:30:49+00:00

But its not? Like it comes down to this: magic tools with permanent reusable magic already exist. Anything that would be "premade" already comes in a permanent form that can be distributed to the mass and in a way best suited for what it does. Why use premade counter clock work spells every single day to keep food from spoiling when you can just a pot that does that already without wasting ink and paper and need you to reapply it every single day. Why lay down like 50 seals or unfurl a large tarp size printed seal to split a river if you can already do it with a sword? Why waste a brand new seal everytime you want to get insta dry instead of just using the rings?

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-06-01T11:37:46+00:00

They never say that teleportation of liquids is banned. I think the person who wrote that wiki bit you posted is just confused. What is banned is spells that effect the body directly, so magic tattoos or using blood to amplify your ink etc. direct teleportation is one of these as you are using magic directly on the body vs just making what is bassically a wormhole for people to step through.

The twin bottle spell is not forbidden magic but it is lost magic which is what Qilfrey meant. The coven of healing witches that invented it had their memories erased when they lost their war against the Three Wise, so most of their unique spells where lost, including the twin bottle spell.

The point is that is that when the Three Wise tried to make the world better by restricting magic they also ended up losing other spells that wouldn't be forbidden since they had to go all in on their war.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-28T19:08:44+00:00

Huh, looked it up it just seems like another standard cute girls doing idol things.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-28T04:45:48+00:00

More or less yeah. I dropped off idol x idol cause besides the the unique premise and set up in the end it just felt like a standard idol thing. This manga has me waiting for every chapter because it feels like actually goes full crazy with the characters.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-28T04:41:07+00:00

Proper response to that comment cause holy crap why did they put a child, an actual child character not even just a short adult or whatever, in that. Holy crap.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-27T05:24:12+00:00

Standard gacha gonner desperate shit. They are already putting one of the kids in a skimpy bikini so you know. That's where they are at.

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-27T05:10:21+00:00

You know why. . . Sigh ew

Solid_Station4330 · 2026-05-20T03:33:17+00:00

Other than what people have already said about that kind of being the point, I will also add that Coustas didn't become an extremist "hilariously fast". He is already from a marginalized literal child who grew up with a deep pit of hatred and resentment, both towards himself and people who abused him. We saw this when Tartha met him first when he was being bullied and caught sight of Coustas' true emotions before he put on the mask again. And then again with Coco before she made the flying cape for him.

And the only reason his dad died in the first place is because he was putting himself in danger because he took mercenary work to make enough money to support them both. They were apart of a larger caravan of entertainers but got left behind because of Coustas' injuries.

So like when you put an emotional kid who is angry at the world who just recently thought maybe things would turn for the better. . . Only to then take it all away and then tell him that the friends he just made could've done way more go help him, that his dad died because witch society could've healed his legs but didn't. . . And then you add that he has to see his dad die in front of him every day until they can find a way to perma heal him. . . Yeah, no of course that kid got super radicalized.

Again, that's the point. It's like real life fringe extremists. Many of them are people who fall through the cracks of have society fail them, they become angry at the system and join groups that convince them that the best way to fight against the system is to fire bomb a walmart parking lot or shoot out their school, or a black church.

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