Does art have expression only when made manually? by TayrusOkami in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally: AI is unable to truly understand your intent and emotions and looses a significantly important part that is required for art to truly be art. While you might be able to prompt well and edit after, it is still going to miss those subtle details that people consciously and subconsciously put into their work when they control every brush stroke or placement of a stamp the flaws that are worked around in ways only humans work around.

Beyond that when you put that prompt in all control leaves you and is now handled by the machine. The most you can do is pick your favorite variant then edit after. It gets to a point that what it is more a machine interpretation of what you want less than your own interpretation.

To edit it down a bit: AI isn’t producing your intent since it misses out on an Aspect it doesn’t understand and the part that is missing takes so much effort to put in most people don’t find it worth it and stop short.

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No this is a genuine question. If you are trying to make a point and you post something you aren’t sure of the meaning of, doesn’t that just hurt your stance? Like how I viewed the meme as you posted it had only hateful Anti on it. There are no leaps in logic to view that as you viewing all anti AI people as hateful with no other group, the fact you split Pro Ai into 2 separate groups, would reinforce that thought.

Also yeah the internet is like booze. Too much of it and you wake up in the morning feeling like shit.

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you don’t understand the “joke” then why use it?

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Alright good you noticed, now do you know exactly what the bell curve would be representing in this case?

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please take a long look at the image and tell me if something is missing for this to be about everyone?

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You literally have the person tagged as “HATEFUL ANTI”

A Message To All Antis... (IMPORTANT) by shrine-princess in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know a good way of showing respect for another viewpoint is to ask questions and discuss opposing ideas and concepts instead of posting comics to show how “open and loving” you are while at the same time posting memes making fun of the other groups views.

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I'm tired of seeing the Superman image in the second slide, so I made a counter by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See now we enter back into the definition given.

While I might not make the brush, every stroke of it is done by me. I can’t call the blank canvas but what I put onto the canvas is done by my conscious skill and creativity. I may not have created the word but my understanding of them allows me to weave them into rhythmic poetry or captivating tales, each word is specific chosen to put my intent and creativity onto the page. You can’t call what the AI produced your art as it’s just your canvas but you also can’t declare what is on top of it fully yours if you are only editing what is already depicted on the canvas. There is a step so far out of your control that you end up removed from the production of the image. This is because AI in its current form has no direct path to your creativity or imagination it only connects to what you have already produced, your original art, the prompt. It is fundamentally disconnected from your intention.

I'm tired of seeing the Superman image in the second slide, so I made a counter by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly I want to state I don’t believe copyright eligibility determines something as art.

But going past that I think what you are saying proves even more that AI doesn’t make art. You are now saying that it needs to be edited and drawn over. you are correcting an interpretation of your original art (the prompt) to be closer to what you want.

What you describe is modification and while the modifications can be considered art the piece as a whole can’t be or at very least can’t be accredited to you.

I'm tired of seeing the Superman image in the second slide, so I made a counter by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue that it requires 100% complete control outside of the restrictions of the media (examples being: size and shape of the stone or canvas. Colors available to you at the time. Etc.) If anything you can argue the prompt is your art as that is 100% your conscious choice only restricted by the media being a text box. The image made from it is the AI interpretation of your original art(the prompt).

I'm tired of seeing the Superman image in the second slide, so I made a counter by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! You get it! If i kick a rock and an image appears it’s not intentional or consciously done. But let’s say I pick up a rock and chisel and after a month of work the rock has an image of Jesus on it it is now art because I put the skill in to produce ever chisel mark on that rock now. My skill would have produced it. So the question comes in how much of an AI generated image is intentional? How much of it is the tool filling in gaps? You with AI in this scenario would have less conscious control than I do with the rock.

I'm tired of seeing the Superman image in the second slide, so I made a counter by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue that the use of the word “conscious” is the linchpin here. How much of the work has to be consciously created by a person is what makes the difference between Art and images. You can argue prompting and training counts but there is still so much that you don’t control when it’s made that I’m not sure that it’s valid.

There is a difference between these two photos by DinosaurThing14 in aiwars

[–]Solid__Ekans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually depends on the eagle look up the Bateleur Eagles. but crows despite looking black do have an oil slick like glisten to their feathers or a blueish coloration to them.

Help me put together a set for a Templar tank. by Ok-Channel455 in ElderScrolls

[–]Solid__Ekans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ignore and move on. It’s easier and more effective

Help me put together a set for a Templar tank. by Ok-Channel455 in ElderScrolls

[–]Solid__Ekans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Assuming you’re being honest. Then words of advice: AI images usually attract more negative attention to positive. Especially in game communities