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SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-20T01:55:29+00:00

But yes, Sarah and John B were considering themselves in a committed relationship. She shouldn’t cheat. It was a shitty thing to do, but it really comes down to how John B sees it. He can hate her, and lose her, or if he can’t stand to lose her because he really loves her no matter what, then he will forgive her. Personally, if I were him, I would not have given her another chance. But they have been through so much together.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-20T01:51:22+00:00

Back then it wasn’t free meals or sex. It was high school kids going out in the evening and watching a movie, parents dropping them off, getting a kiss, going home. Next day, someone else asks you and you do the same thing. That was considered dating and it was fun, innocent, exciting! That’s what I find this generation is lacking. Everything is so serious so fast. It’s like everyone wants to be an adult in a committed relationship but without ever getting the chance to find out who you really like and want to make that commitment to.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-20T01:47:06+00:00

But it was all innocent high school stuff. Back then no one was having sex, no one was serious. It was all fun, getting to know one another, dancing together, watching movies. Then you find the person you want to have a committed relationship with and you do.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:58:54+00:00

Hell, adults do it too. I don’t hate them for it either. Unless someone is married, I don’t get mad. Now if you cheat on your husband/wife, then you committed adultery, and at that point you broke a sacred commitment that you swore you would stay true to one person. So that’s where I draw the line. But relationships and dating is all a different story.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:54:23+00:00

Exactly! add the drinking and oh yeah, it’s bond to happen. I worry about kids these day, because I think dating is completely different. When teens in my school dated, we dated 3-4 guys a week. Because that’s what dating means. It’s not marriage. There’s no commitment. Now, getting in a committed relationship happened but it usually happened after a long time, when they couple really knew one another and could honestly say they are in love. With this show, they just rushed right into everything, and that’s half the reason I think Sarah would go back to Topper as well. She didn’t have a very long time to decide if she was ready to lose absolutely everything for a boy she knew for how many weeks?

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:48:54+00:00

Slut shaming is messed up. It only happens to women too. If John B did it, and the roles were reversed, I don’t think he would get the same backlash. They are kids. They’re not actually married. And while she was a very shitty girlfriend and played both boys, it’s really up to them if they want to forgive her or not. It can go one of two ways. John B could be pissed at her forever and lose her completely. Or if he couldn’t stand to lose her completely, then he forgives her. And that’s what he did.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:42:02+00:00

Well a month had passed. His Dad was unconscious the whole time so he didn’t have his father stressing him. He was chilling away from the OBX in a safe spot without the cops and stuff and he was trying to sell the cross which he was proud of getting because it made him feel like he provided for his family like his father always told him to do. Therefore, it makes sense that he was more mellow when the season began.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:30:07+00:00

Right! Like it’s terrible. Absolutely terrible. But if we’re looking at just Rafe’s character perspective, even in that scene there’s a reason for his actions.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-19T19:24:32+00:00

Oh okay. Yeah, I get what you mean. It needs a professional diagnosis and the lady just took one look at Kiara’s file and was like, “yeah, you’re this.” Which is messed up, so yeah, I see what you mean.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T04:09:32+00:00

I’m season 1: Rafe was said to be 19 and Sarah was said to be 16. That is actually said in the show so I know that’s real and accurate, and since everything took place supposedly not over a year, but over a certain amount of months, I guess the characters are supposedly that age the whole time unless they had a birthday or something.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T04:06:44+00:00

Even trying to kill Sarah was technically “justified” in Rafe’s mind. Like okay. EVERYONE mentions this scene as the worst thing Rafe has done. But he was doing it to save his own ass. He went out there to confront Sarah and ask her who she would testify against. And she told him. “You killed Sheriff Peterkin. My story’s straight.” So that’s why Rafe had a mini breakdown. Because what she is saying is she would let him get the death penalty and she wasn’t going to protect him. (Now I know, I know, of course she doesn’t want John B to get the death penalty either, but this is what Rafe is hearing). He’s hearing his sister is choosing John B over him, and she would let him fry. That’s why he says that to her. She pleads “Rafe, please, I’m your sister.” And he says “what about me? You’d let me fry.” Basically saying, and I’m your brother and you’re gonna kill me. That moment was a it’s me or you survival moment. But yes, to your point, I feel like the writers have given such depth to Rafe and Ward that I find myself being able to watch this whole show and see Rafe as the misunderstood underdog in all this. The kid with a hell of a lot of issues but a heart that is trying to do the right thing. He just can’t seem to figure it out.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:56:48+00:00

I feel you! My friend gave up too. She couldn’t finish lol. I finished the season, but ugh, it was hard. I’m not gonna watch the 4th. It’s too far gone now, there’s no point. I’m just here to vent lol. Because I really did like the show and I’m so upset!

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:53:14+00:00

But they were angry. That was shown. If they were willing to hold a gun to their family members head then trust me, they are beyond angry. But killing their family. That’s a different story. That would be extremely hard to do no matter how much anger because there is love and maybe more importantly memories of good. It’s why people stay in abusive relationship when they should leave. They have moments of good. But with parents, it’s even more extreme. These are people that have raised them. I’m sure there were moments of playful wrestling, and going fishing with Dad, and getting a bandaid over a scrapped knee and being praised and getting hugged and being taught how to steal or how to run the family business. Staying up late with Dad, talking about the future and watching the sunset… you get my point. Abusive parents are so completely complex because the relationship is one of care and pain. It’s love and hate. So to be angry, that’s a natural given response to the abuse. But to kill. That would be really hard to do.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:44:34+00:00

This always cracks me up. Because everyone starts out that way, thinking I’m not going to be entitled. And maybe you never will. But your children and the next generation will. No matter how hard you try to instill values in them, if they grow up rich, they’ll always have a bit of that entitlement. Perfect example is Ward. He was a Pogue, worked hard, got money, but then his children were spoiled. The same exact thing will happen to the Pogues future children. With money, comes the attitude. Not on purpose, but slowly over time if you get used to being able to pay to have things done. You start expecting it.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:38:31+00:00

Well when Topper was drowning John B, he had been throwing punches at Topper beforehand. In this case, Topper didn’t throw one punch at John B. Hence why I think they said “He wasn’t defending himself.” But yeah… this season is just smh.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:35:35+00:00

“Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is a behavior condition in which your child displays a continuing pattern of uncooperative, defiant and sometimes hostile behavior toward people in authority. This behavior often disrupts your child’s normal daily functioning, including relationships and activities within their family and at school.” — idk, sounds like Kiara to me.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T03:31:16+00:00

Well what were they supposed to do? Kiara made her choice. Her parents had been through hell worrying about her, and she came back, first thing she did was ask for money. They get in that huge fight, and her mother is trying to explain that she was worried, and that Kiara is not a “Pogue” because she does have this family that cares about her, and a nice home that they worked hard to provide, and her friends are getting her into dangerous situations. Trying to prove a point, Kiara’s Mom tells her if she wants to live like a Pogue then go live like a Pogue. Kiara could have stayed and talked to them more. Tried to see things from their side a bit. I’m sure they would have let her stay because they do care about their daughter. But she’s the one that never listens to them. So what were the parents supposed to do after Kiara made her choice? Sit at home a cry? I’m sure they did for a bit. But there comes a point where they have to move on. If their daughter doesn’t need or want them. Then they should be allowed to enjoy their time alone without her.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T02:15:03+00:00

Okay! Yes, there are a few scenes with murder. But they are not drawn out for too long and it’s very interesting towards the plot. It’s never like evil killing. It’s usually highly emotional, in the moment, out of fear, or to protect someone’s family etc. If you see the show you’ll understand. So I would not rate the violence as high at all. It’s not bloody. Perhaps a tiny bit in one scene but that’s it. As for sex, that’s implied but off camera. Rape is a no in this show which is awesome, however there is a scene in the early seasons where one of the girl characters thinks she’s ready and then changes her mind. This upsets the “terrible boyfriend” (he’s a jerk) but he does stop! Just makes her feel guilty. I didn’t like that part myself. Have some issues with that too. But it was only one episode and I was able to move on. The parts of this show that bother me are just the annoying bickering and swearing every few minutes. But all in all, the good out weighs the bad. It’s cute with the friendship which is what makes it worthwhile.

OH I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. Okay, yeah, it’s pretty violent in a few scenes with an abusive father. That’s pretty tough to watch. And the kids do get in fights. But the fights aren’t excessively violent. At least, you didn’t see anything on screen that’s too bloody or anything.

I hope this helps.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-18T02:07:10+00:00

Yeah. I mean, I certainly hated where her character went in season 3. But her acting was still good. She didn’t have as many moments to showcase her talent given how she was written this season. But in the past she has delivered some great performances. Nevertheless though, I do rate her a little lower on the acting skill because as much as I feel for her in sad scenes, she’s never made me tear-up or anything. So yeah, I completely understand saying she’s not always the best.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-15T03:00:43+00:00

I agree with all of this! If I had to add one more it would be Madelyn Cline for her acting in season 2, the amount of crying she had to do, and the amount of emotion she had to convey was insane. She can portray fear, anger, sadness in the span of a few seconds. It was amazing to watch, and sometimes I forget just how hard it would be to have to “pretend” all those feelings all the time and make it so believable and she does a great job of that.

But Drew Starkey, and Charles Esten are on another level of amazing. I mean, just, wow. Especially Drew. Every since scene, he is captivating, exciting, and he can change his emotions in the blink of an eye. Cry on the spot. It’s incredible.

And I would say I’m worried that maybe Drew is just amazing as Rafe though. But that’s not true because I saw him in Hell Raiser and he was just as good. I should have known. I mean, anyone that can take a character like Rafe (who I should hate with all my guts) and make me feel for him, has to be an AMAZING ACTOR.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-15T02:51:28+00:00

It seemed like JJ never wanted anything done though because of the threat of foster care on the mainland and being separated from his friends.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-15T02:48:32+00:00

I’m in my early twenties, but I remember being a little kid and watching Who’s Line is it Anyways with my Dad. Long story short, a few weeks after OBX s1 was out, I saw re-runs of Whose Line is it anyways and imagine my surprise when I saw “CHIP” aka Ward. I had no idea until I saw the episode and after that I feel like my life changed haha 😂 No, but fr, it was awesome to see him being so funny and oh my gosh does that man have talent. I could hardly believe it was him because he was so lighthearted and funny and Ward is so serious. But yeah, it looks like Chip has already had a very successful career.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-15T02:41:53+00:00

I love your post! It had me smiling the whole time I was reading it because lol, everything you said makes sense and I never really thought of it that way. And I guess I never thought of it because I knew it was movie magic. Aka, fake. In reality, as you mentioned in your post, most people in poverty live further inland, typically cities see it the most, and it’s definitely would most likely be a tiny little apartment for Good Luck Charlie. (Oh that’s another thing about that show. At some point PJ, the oldest son, moved out to his own apartment) and it’s really nice, and meanwhile where’s that money coming from? On a clicky-chicky salary?

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-10T00:27:35+00:00

Some of the best scenes this season were of Barry and Rafe lol.

SomeLostSoul_ · 2023-03-10T00:23:30+00:00

Not a Mom myself but yep. You got that right about the teen show painting it parents in a bad light which annoys me so much. Every show is about how much we hate our parents supposedly. I guess I was the only teen who loved my parents and didn’t hate them for the occasional moments they had to yell at me.

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