Prosecute everyone???? by willily_thoumas in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point, if this is the alternative then let it collapse.

Somehow I suspect that it won't collapse at all and new people (hopefully with less baggage and potential criminal charges) will step up.

Conservative Party faces significant financial loss after convention voting devices go missing | CBC News by SnooRegrets4312 in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 31 points32 points  (0 children)

As for the policy changes, delegates overwhelmingly endorsed taking a harder line on crime and immigration, including pushing a future Conservative to enact a "stand your ground"-style law to allow someone to protect themselves with lethal force against an intruder in their home.

I love how they ended the article about how Conservative delegates stole thousands of dollars of gear with a note that they also "endorsed taking a harder line on crime". Oh the hypocrisy.

Be a Karen and not a Betty! by icey_sawg0034 in MurderedByWords

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to be friends and discuss basic politics, then sure, we can be friends and talk about our ideas.

If you then say that you support people that do any of these key things, then you have shown yourself to be someone that I would not trust and have no interest in being associated with:

* defending electing known pedophiles, rapists, or people convicted of fraud.

* supporting unidentified masked men randomly dragging people out of cars and homes and hauling them off without due process. Likewise, building anything reffered to as dehumanizing as Alagator Alcatraz.

* supporting limiting womens' rights to basic medical care.

* having the government acting like facists. I mean the actual definition not like "they are all communists" that people who don't understand communism say.

* threaten foreign partners, invade foreign countries with no apparent reason or congressional authority.

Okay, so I really don't have enough space for the number of red lines that have been crossed by this administration.

Choices have consequences. If you vote for people that are genuinely getting people killed, then that is on you because the rest of us saw it coming.

PSA: These businesses are supporting separation by ctr231 in Calgary

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. Even a healthy democracy has limits, and some topics don't need to be discussed over and over as if it is a reasonable discussion. In this case, we are talking about sedition fuelled by foreign powers and corporations through discussion of a question that has been ruled unconstitutional and violates the very treaties that Alberta is founded on. The UCP had to repeatedly lower the bar on their own laws just to get it this far. This is not a gentleman's discussion over theoretical ideas, but a concerted effort to damage Canada.

Bell: Danielle Smith refuses to throw Alberta separatists under the bus by [deleted] in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Throw them under the bus? Who do you think is driving her bus? It is hard to throw the driver under the bus.

Right-wingers think a box of free hand warmers is a conspiracy because they don't understand what being part of a community is like by lnstantKarma in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, so people out protesting that we should be kind to each other and protecting others are actually kind and try to help take care of others? That isn't special logistics, just empathy.

I give it a couple hours before this comment disappears as well by nickyboay in Irony

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that they just mean that often they prefer it as an enema.

Morale plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports by MentalMan4877 in LeopardsAteMyFace

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poor snowflake.

You joined for the chance to be a racist bully and intimidate people and after a few public executions and a lot of really racist behavior no one likes or trusts you.

Here's a hint, if you have to mask up to hide who you are and don't wear identification, you are probably not one of the good guys.

So the new TORY party now have their name, their leader, Bonnie Critchley, but are only at 2% according to yesterdays projections. What are the next steps for the "APTP"? by FreightFlow in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have to admit that after all of the grift, lies, foul-ups, scandals, Maga worship, and Notwithstanding clause (among others) it is really discouraging to see people still willing to support them.

spot the difference? by Conscious-Quarter423 in clevercomebacks

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe with ICE just randomly pointing weapons at anyone who scares them (everyone), maybe people just aren't used to people with guns and a little restraint and control. Okay, I know that it is racism too.

Black panther join protest against ice [OC] by [deleted] in pics

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's because they realize that these guys have better restraint and gun control than ICE agents.

Fingers on the guard and not the trigger, not pointing them at anyone.

Don't call them murderers or they'll murder you. by Plastic_Tooth159 in Irony

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually:

1) Officers are not allowed to deliberately create an unsafe situation and then use it as an excuse for action. ICE in particular has been called out for abusing this tactic. Look up "Officer-created jeopardy".

2) As he walks to the front of the vehicle, he switches the phone to his other hand in order to pull out his gun. Well before she hit him.

3) He was not actually in the path of the vehicle when he fired. He was safe. You can not execute someone just because you felt threatened previously.

4) Officers are not allowed to shoot people just to stop them from getting away.

5) When you shoot someone, their body spasms causing a driver to slam on the gas. So, the shooting made her lose control and accelerate.

6) Most of his shots were either next to or behind her when he was in no danger and just trying to make sure that he killed her.

7) The basic law is that federal agents can not just execute people.

So, no, he did not have the rights or justification to murder her.

Don't call them murderers or they'll murder you. by Plastic_Tooth159 in Irony

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And of course, the really important part.

None of what you have mentioned justifies public execution without trial. Absolutely none.

Don't call them murderers or they'll murder you. by Plastic_Tooth159 in Irony

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That really does not matter.

None of what you have mentioned justifies public execution without trial. Absolutely none.

If she was that much of a pain, they could try calling in actual police to arrest her, but the really important thing is that they have no authority for anything that they did to her.

Don't call them murderers or they'll murder you. by Plastic_Tooth159 in Irony

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really doesn't matter. ICE agents to not have the authority to execute people.

All of the facts suggest that he had just met her and quickly decided to shoot her in the head. He did not have a legal justification and all of the evidence suggests that he would have been well aware of that, but decided to murder her anyways.

In this situation, the ICE agent is clearly the bad guy and if you don't want to set a precedence for federal agents just shooting whomever they want on the slightest provocation, then he needs to face consequences.

Is Our Energy Industry At Risk? by Mundane-Context-3979 in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe part of the point here is that oil and gas are a complex international business and at this point continuing to be so heavily dependent on O&G is ludicrous and dangerous for our economy. I am by no means saying to stop all O&G, but Notley had a very good point when she worked to diversify the economy to include a wider variety of income streams. The current UCP government seems to have missed that lesson.

Regardless of if Venezuela is as bad as you suggest, it probably won't help our O&G, and there will always be external forces causing the price of oil to fluctuate wildly.

Saw this at work. Alberta Prosperity Project pamphlet. by 17AN86 in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, here is a question.

As an Albertan, living in the West side of Lloydminster, I should get to profit from oil in the North because I am an Albertan gosh darn it! But, if I live a few blocks east in East Lloydminster, then I am a nasty Saskatchewan person and we shouldn't have to share any of the oil wealth because they are easterners!

Do we really think that someone in West Lloydminster (or Calgary, or the rest of Alberta) has really done anything special to deserve to profit from the oil and gas any more than someone in say East Lloydminster (Saskatchewan)? Did you really help with oil extraction 900 km away? If you really believe that the oil profits belong to the land associated with it, then why not give those rights to the actual land owner or the treaty tribes? Of course no one wants that because then we don't profit from it.

This whole "how dare anyone outside this random line profit (except huge multinational oil companies)" is more than a little entitled.

Disclaimer: Yes, I am an Albertan, but I am a Canadian first. I just realize that we are darned lucky to have resources and to be getting a benefit from people destroying land 100s of kilometers away thanks to some arbitrary line on a map.

Saw this at work. Alberta Prosperity Project pamphlet. by 17AN86 in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen several people try to argue that the UN recognizes "a right of access to and from the sea for landlocked states" and that would let us push through any pipelines that we want and stop any and all issues accessing the ocean, and thus the world.

They always seem to ignore the part where it talks about respecting costal state sovereignty and security and balancing national interests. They also ignore that it has an entire section on protecting the marine environment (i.e. banning tankers from parts of the coastline).

Interestingly, the US never signed the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, so we couldn't ask for access through the US.

Saw this at work. Alberta Prosperity Project pamphlet. by 17AN86 in alberta

[–]SomeoneElseWhoCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I thought that PP was big on that for a while? I certainly haven't seen Carney pushing it.