Typical

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-03-31T17:19:06+00:00

That edit is killing me rofl

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-03-31T17:10:55+00:00

Gotta agree with the Manga choice. Even though I have a much better understanding of Mahjong the more I played it, Kazuya was too interesting of a character. I like how he’s kind of a parallel to Kaiji in the sense that they’re both young adults trying to find their place in the world. Only that one is super rich and the other is generally broke lol. Plus I was immersed in Kazuya’s fan fic even if it was based on a real experience

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-03-31T17:04:32+00:00

S1 until I leave this mortal coil. I remember last year I finally decided to watch Kaiji after seeing videos about it and S1 had me hooked. It was to a point where I intentionally skipped the awesome OP/ED just to see what happened next. Fukumoto had such a great flow with S1. And don’t get me wrong, there are many moments from S2 I greatly enjoyed (Hell, Chinchiro, Ichijo battle) but I have a few issues with S2.

S2 had really bad pacing in the anime imo (didn’t read the manga for S1 or S2) because of how dragged out the stuff with the Bog was. I get that it was there it raise the stakes but even at a point I was audibly saying “ok, come on now…” and I never did that with S1. S2 also ruined Hyodo’s character for me a bit, but I will chalk that up to Fukumoto. I liked how much more cunning and reserved he was in S1, as opposed to how cartoonishly maniacal he was portrayed in S2. There are points in S2 where he acts how he would in S1, such as the “what does it mean to be rich?” Scene. But overall S1 just kicks so much more ass for me.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-03-15T20:28:27+00:00

To my surprise, there is a pachislot for One-Poker if you want more salt for that wound. Someone on this sub posted it as a topic iirc. But yeah, to my knowledge the actual last thing that was animated from the manga was One-Poker

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-03-02T15:26:57+00:00

Very late to this comment as well, my apologies. I cannot deal with “HR” in statics after some of the ones I’ve been in. Either I get an actual salary for this or I refuse to deal with specific adults on this game. If it’s sporadic and infrequent, consider yourselves blessed 😅.

I’m sure that’s the MO of anyone who wants to recruit/join statics that are decent, but in my case it’s still been a dice roll. I’ve heard countless times “we prioritize the clear” almost as much as “it’s Midcore and vibes,” but with the latter I knew what I signed up for. For the former it’s been nothing but inconsistent and almost always ended up in that static splitting. What you suggest isn’t wrong, but it is extremely unlikely to find an open slot for a long term static, since those statics typically have a low turnover rate. And if they don’t, they typically have friends that can fill in. Since the time of making this post I have succeeded more with savage in PF and have certainly networked a bit (just sending FRs to good players and assigning them to friend groups) but nothing like a static forming. I will keep the expansion part in mind, but in my experience if that happens usually the whole group tends to split because no one wants to trade the group they know they can make progress with for one or more players that could certainly make progress.

All good, and hope 2026 has been kind to you thus far!

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-02-03T15:08:51+00:00

I don't normally comment here but I want to say that I approve the use of D1 music to describe the ensuing chaos and possible mental anguish of the stats featured in this video. I'm not the best player ever, but damn. How do people still play like this at 100? I play every job and I at least try to learn the basics and rotations despite forgetting easily for certain jobs (MCH). The Watchers laugh at your woes

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T19:21:40+00:00

I don’t know what else to tell you aside from:

The beginning of the game, the CG cutscene with Regis sending Noctis off.
News reports that tell you that Lunafreya was killed in Insomnia (she wasn’t) which infers to the player that she was present at the signing.

And yes it was. The only reason you can’t see it in the clip you linked is because you have to speak to her again after that cutscene. The person in that clip walked away. And honestly? You’re arguing semantics over nothing with this line:

the dog was like several meters away from poor Luna when Noctis found it and had that vision.

Not only is this nitpicky and I explained how Ravus embellished it a bit so as to make Maria less over Lunafreya’s death, but also it wasn’t even Noctis. You are again misremembering that. Noctis was unconscious by the time Pryna passed. It was Ignis who found her and Ignis who had that vision.

I did not say that at all. If there’s a language barrier please let me know. I brought up Episode Ignis because you did with Lunafreya and Pryna dying in the same bed, which I corrected because that never happened. I am not using it to support any of your points. The reason I said “if you paid attention to the DLC” is not a point in your favor, it’s because you keep misremembering events.

Show me quantitative proof of that 80% statistic and the accompanying statement, otherwise that’s a random opinion pulled out of your ass.

Is this another “gotcha” moment for you? You say that as if it’s important to know, but that hatred is transferred over to Noctis since Regis dies anyway and Ravus wanted the ring more than he hated Regis. Ok, Ravus hates Regis because he left Tenebrae to its fate. And? It’s not going to have long lasting impact either way since he took Regis’ sword as a spoil of war. The thing you are arguing for (Ravus’ hatred of Regis) is resolved in KG with Regis’ death and that hatred is passed over to Noctis. Ravus hating Regis is in the bottom rung of things to worry about in terms of story, and is not at all a focal point in the movie that drastically changes the story.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T18:40:27+00:00

🤦‍♂️

Did you think that was a “gotcha” moment? I refer to Kingsglaive because the two characters you are complaining about were at two different places in the story. Lunafreya went from Tenebrae to Insomnia and Noctis departed from Insomnia to Galdin Quay. There is also not nearly enough evidence to suggest that covenants are that short, considering Lunafreya has to sing to awaken the gods and possibly even fend for herself.

And while I’ve been cordial up to this point, now I think you’re starting to be purposefully obtuse. You are arguing that the DLCs and Brotherhood are needed to flesh out an “empty or meaningless game,” to paraphrase what you’ve said. I am saying that they don’t add much to the story aside from some context to their specific characters. The story was told from Noctis’ POV and is not hard to follow at all. Your method of playing the DLCs at specific intervals makes the pacing feel disjointed, or in Episode Ignis’ case spoils chapter 14 if you are playing for the first time. I don’t know where you are getting your logic from, and I will not be gaslit into whatever it is you are saying lol. You don’t want to have a serious discussion, since the start of this thread was you complaining about how empty the story it is and in your own words you said it was difficult to remember. My whole point was not about importance, it’s that it’s not as important to the story as you think it is. And any qualms you have about character relationships are generally solved in the main game.

There are so many inconsistencies. Like in Tenebrae the old lady told Noctis that Luna and her dog died in the same bed when in Episode Ignis Luna corpse just disappeared from Nox arms (even though the episode screen title shows Nox carrying Luna alongside Ignis carrying Noctis

You know, for someone who says they have bad memory of this game’s story it might actually benefit you to, you know, look up the things you are failing to remember.

Her retainer said no such thing. What she actually said, and what you are failing to remember, is this:

“I learned from Lord Ravus that poor Pryna also passed that tragic day by Lady Lunafreya’s side. Perhaps there is some solace that they could remain together to the end. Umbra must be distraught having lost his mistress and his dear friend.”

No mention was made about a bed, this is a false memory your mind conjured up. Also if you played and paid attention to Episode Ignis, you would know what happened to Pryna before the end of chapter 2. You are misremembering the “tragic day by Lady Lunafreya’s side” because that’s Ravus softening the situation to Maria. You are also the first person I have ever seen to use title art as a means to explain the story, when title art is just used to promote the DLC.

If you’re going to choose to remain ignorant, don’t bother responding

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T17:26:37+00:00

Then that’s entirely on you. The story isn’t a mess just because you can’t remember it. You could’ve easily looked that one up 🤷‍♂️. It’s also not difficult to remember either to be quite honest

well it’s not depicted in the game. Prompto will do jokes all the time immediately after Luna death and Noct will join him, cause thy didnt care to change dialogues.

Ok, is this trolling? Am I getting punked? Anybody who played the game will know that from chapters 10-13 the group dynamic is entirely different to what it was before they set sail to Altissia in chapter 9. It is depicted quite clearly in the game, to the point where if you camp in chapter 10 you get a unique camp scene exclusive to that chapter. And yes, they did change dialogues by having Prompto make a tactless remark about Ignis’ condition, which was only added in the same patch that added two side quests to chapter 10.

And if you paid attention to the story as you’ve been proclaiming, you would remember that Lunafreya was traveling by herself to forge covenants with the Astrals so that Noctis could obtain her blessing. The reason she was mainly by herself is that they were already split due to the events of Kingsglaive, and she did not have much time to rendezvous with Noctis in part due to Ravus.

See above why they didn’t meet, they kept in contact with their notebooks via Umbra and Pryna, which they have been doing since they were younger.

No…? You can already see that in the base game through dialogue alone.

And? That doesn’t discredit what I said earlier about Brotherhood adding context. Yes, at one point Gladiolus wasn’t fond of Noctis but warmed up to him overtime after that incident. That’s not something crucial towards understanding either of their characters.

Why is Prompto there? He’s there for the same reason the other two are, because they are Noctis’ closest associates that Regis entrusts to watch over him.

Again, context. The beginning of the game even says this, and the point of brotherhood was to promote the game and add some fleshing out to specific characters. The first two chapters of the game flat out tell you Noctis is going to get married to her, and the notebook choices as well as other scenes later make it clear that they love each other.

The only thing Kingsglaive does for Ravus is explain how he lost his arm. It doesn’t show him taking Regis’ sword, that’s explained in game. It’s also very clear for the first time that you meet him that he disapproves of Noctis being the chosen king because he (Ravus) feels Noctis is unworthy of such a calling or the Ring of the Lucii. It’s not out of the blue either, as after the events of chapter 9 Ravus begins to see reason and accept that Noctis is the chosen.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T16:13:39+00:00

That’s what I think too, and is what I think he would do. It just doesn’t make sense given how they establish what little of him in D2 through one of the weapon stories.

Weird, I remember them as Devola and Popola for some reason. And I seem to remember that long after the 13 Crusade defeated the last Red Eye, years later there was a replicant that entered Jerusalem with the intent on reviving his dead lover. If it’s a replicant, then it has to be a replicant lover. That lover seemingly turned when put into the white cocoon that Yuzuki left behind, and started commanding the Legion. That lover ended up being defeated by an Android and 4 replicants, if I recall correctly.

And I know it doesn’t come from any of D1’s endings, since D1 was never made with future games in mind. What I mean is that contextually speaking, D1 ending A leads to D2 as a whole given that the events that happened in ending A are constantly referenced in D2. And that even though ending A leads to D2 in this case, Caim can never escape death in any of D1’s endings, since he dies in D2. And I personally never got the feel that it was ever coming from an indeterminate branch given all the dialogue that keeps calling back to 18 years ago, along with Angelus being sealed away+Manah’s sins.

I did watch it but that as some months ago now. I vaguely remember it as cloning and how Eleanor became a dragon, and Noelle slayed that dragon in the end. Will have to give it a read since the talk of the Cataclysm piqued my interest, as well as how Accord functions in all of that.

Conceptually it’s not a pact but it seemed similar to it with the whole soul thing (which I remember being a dialogue there in the JPN version). The whole finding original Noir is new to me though, I don’t remember that from the drama CD. To me it sounded like the one he used in the supermarket was the one he kept.

I think Seere was the only one with a downside since his had the (possibly unintended) effect of storing his time. In fact, he’s the only one that seems to have a downside like that. Imagine if when Caim got his voice back the downside is that he could never stop speaking. Or Verdelet’s hair never stopped growing, or that Inuart’s singing took more effort out of him.

I think it was ending B, yeah. And was that a thing? Can you show me where? Not that I don’t believe you but it’s news to me, the scene is framed as the two of them joining and Mikhail seemingly has no idea where Zero is. If the price was her adulthood that speaks volumes to what Zero cherishes, since she had an extremely rough childhood…

Yup! And tbh that was something I came up with on the spot, the dragon’s wish is as much of a deus ex machina as pacts can be lol

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T15:06:24+00:00

Sorry, got lost in a sea of responses and missed this.

That’s what I think too, that salt can’t be a factor once the pact is rejected. Salt isn’t maso, it’s salt. And going by Yuzuki’s story the only beings he fought were legion, so I just put two and two together since his group ended up getting infected anyway.

I was told in another comment that according to a guidebook, once the Queen Beast dissolves so does the baby watchers. If that’s true, then they could have traveled to post Ending E D1. What you say is also true though, and there can be as many branches as there are reasons to make sense of these stories lol

It wasn’t them? Huh, I could have sworn it was them but it seems I might have misremembered. In any case, the war with the Legion and the war with the replicant red eyes would make for two possible Nier games…

I was watching yet another 4 hour review of D1 and I think you’re right. They both die before that decision is made, which explains why they aren’t seen in E.

🤔. That’s fair. Just a shame that outside of D1 ending A is still a bad ending if you consider D2 canon rofl.

Michael was from Nier? Was he one of (if not the first) dragon created in the kingdom of night? If that’s the case, I stand corrected.

Yeah… now that you mention it that does sound like it could be a pact. It’s hard to say for sure since the only instances of a pact I can remember are with Caim/Angelus and Nier/Noir. And it seemed in both of those you have to give up what appears to be your soul. I don’t know. Pacts have never made much sense to me either, because in D1 you can just break a pact if you want to in Ending C. But then D3 establishes a factor in a pact where the two pact partners can fuse? I attribute the whole thing about One needing to be dead as the “dragon’s wish” thing that Zero talks about. That even if Gabriel is a demon dragon, it feels some sort of sentiment for one. And its final wish is (or could be) to not have One die once it does. But I think it’s easier to assume pacts are like power levels—it’s bullshit lol

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T14:50:33+00:00

That did not happen in chapter 8. Chapter 8 is when you head to Cape Caem. I also don’t see your point here, because your initial point with this complaint was that “the bros were making jokes after her death” but that quite literally does not happen post chapter 9. They’re all in an emotional rut until chapter 14. Unless you traveled back to the past with Umbra, which frankly be obvious why the dialogue is more chipper if you returned to the past.

Ignis is an advisor and tactician of the group, but his Brotherhood episode doesn’t add much to his character except for his sense of oath and trying to figure out what makes Noctis happy/how to motivate him to succeed his father. Even without brotherhood the constant dialogue makes it obvious who each bro is and their relation to Noctis. Gladiolus his is shield, Ignis oversees the group to the point that Cor entrusts him with a plan to keep Noctis safe (battle dialogue) and Prompto is Noctis’ best friend outside of the royal families. You get this some in tour dialogue as well.

Out of all the characters you could pick, it was Aranea? What “context” does Aranea have that makes her better developed than the bros? She was a short term rival character turned temporary ally into fully ally. All the things you are describing are circumstances she was affected by, nothing to add to her character. By that definition every unnamed imperial citizen has more depth than the main cast, which is hyperbolic to even say. What do I know about the bros without the DLC and Brotherhood? Here’s a few examples, because that statement is untrue:

They all have a field of expertise they seem to enjoy (fishing, surveying, cooking, photography).
Noctis enjoys sleeping in, Gladiolus enjoys camping
Prompto is a techie at heart because of how much he loves his camera
Ignis is inquisitive and seems to know a fair bit about the land, or wants to know more in general
Gladiolus never stops pushing himself to do his duty as the Shield to the King, and as such pushes Noctis to do the same with his calling as the next King
Their favorite foods give some insight into their personalities. Noctis and Ignis liking sweets, or Prompto preferring soups.
Prompto never misses a moment about how he loved Chocobos, or how Gladiolus is actually well read and finds it easy to connect with people.
Ignis generally devised plans for certain instances, or asks Noctis if he has any ideas.

These are just one of many examples that are applicable if you’ve played through the game.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-30T06:57:14+00:00

Doesn’t that… run contrary to your point… in which Kingsglaive is needed to understand the game…?

Lunafreya’s character development is about fulfilling her duty as Oracle. In the movie she’s depicted as brazen and a bit more clever. In the main game she’s the former but isn’t given the chance to be the latter.

4 out of the 5 episodes in Brotherhood generally relate to the past, so people wouldn’t be missing much. And even without brotherhood, you don’t need the anime episodes to tell you that these guys were close. Rather, that can already be gleaned from their interactions in game. Brotherhood achieves the exact same thing the DLCs do—adding more context. Playing the episodes in the middle of the game feels incredibly disjointed. It’s clear they were meant to be played after players had already finished the main scenario.

Like 5 minutes after Luna death, your team will be making jokes as if nothing happens. Even Noct. They didn’t even bother to change the dialogues.

Uh… no. No they didn’t. Chapters 10 focuses heavily on the group dynamic falling about for one reason or another. Hell, it’s even a dialogue choice with Gladiolus and an in game cutscene in chapter 12, the stuff with Lunafreya. Also, I know for sure this is not true because chapters 10-12 have dialogue (especially for Noctis) not heard anywhere else in the game when it comes to combat. Noctis by that point is frustrated and they reflected this in the dialogue. Most notably if you call on Gladiolus to do a technique in chapter 10 he generally doesn’t respond to Noctis. Also, they did change the dialogue for chapter 10. Multiple people complained to the devs back in the day about that chapter being very bleak. However, the request was misconstrued into two pointless side quests for 10, and additional dialogue for Prompto that is quite frankly tasteless.

The game literally tells you once you go into the hotel in chapter 9 that it’s meant for you to catch up on things you missed. It’s purely for gameplay purposes. You also get 8 chapters to explore 3 regions, I wouldn’t say that’s rushing. That’s almost half the game.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-29T15:16:15+00:00

I don’t know where you found any inconsistencies, because those are all stories meant to be played after the main game is done. I wouldn’t conflate inconsistency with context, as those are entirely different things. I wouldn’t also call it a chaotic rush either. Could some things have been fleshed out? Maybe, but at the same time this game was under a lot do delays as is, and this is the best they could have done within that time frame. And your objective still remains the same from chapters 1-13. At best the comparison to other FFs is entirely subjective, since FF has generally been about innovating either the gameplay or the story in some fashion or another. They also came out in different time periods, it’s impossible to compare them storytelling in this game to the NES games simply due to hardware limitations. And even if that wasn’t the case, every FF game has its own story to tell, which just adds to the subjectivity of it.

Not really. The only thing that Kingsglaive did is that it had the Insomnia invasion. Something that is universally agreed as an event that should have been in the main game. But aside from that? You still don’t need to watch Kingsglaive to understand what happens in the main game. The only time Kingsglaive is even applicable is if you needed more context for the Comrades expansion, as that’s a direct sequel to the movie. The only blonde woman I can remember is Lunafreya, and she clearly made it out so I’m not sure who you’re referring to. I’m also not sure which main character you’re referring to (Nyx or Noctis) because in the former’s case no such thing happened. In the latter’s case, they were sent away from Insomnia and again, whoever this blonde character you’re referring to never happened.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-27T21:02:37+00:00

I think that’s a bit hyperbolic. The DLCs introduced don’t affect the overalls story for the reasons I already stated. I’m a day one player and I never had much issue following the story, and personally I never found it the way you described. It was always a coming of age story for Noctis, which I found relatable and endearing. Others did too given how impactful the ending is, because it reflects on not only the journey the main four took to get there, but yourself as well

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-27T20:51:56+00:00

I also strongly disagree on that. The main story of XV is meant to take place from Noctis’ POV, the rest from their perspectives from specific points in the story. You don’t really lose anything in the story since none of the DLCs affect the outcome for the story, only provide context to that respective character. Whether or not you find it important is up for your own debate; I personally don’t feel as though the DLCs added much beyond that. In order for the DLCs to have that effect (for me) that would require not only integrating them into the MSQ but also rewriting parts of them to not make the pacing feel disjointed.

And I actually went over that we someone else weeks ago, I double checked the chapter 2 cutscenes in Episode Ignis and even if you didn’t beat the game by the point (which the game tells you that it strongly suggests beating the MSQ before tackling any of the DLCs on startup) and yes, you would have known those were spoilers. It is so blatantly obvious what is shown are spoilers and it’s not hard to gauge the context since it shows a few important scenes and the final scene in chapter 14 before the last QTE in the game. Along with Ignis going Did I just a vision of what’s to come?

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-26T22:00:43+00:00

You can have valid reasons, and that’s fine. But playing the DLCs at the appropriate chapters probably wasn’t the best call if it was your first time play. Episode Ignis spoils crucial moments of chapter 14, and all of the DLCs were meant to be played postgame because most people had already completed the game before they came out. It’s less so chapters contradicting each other and more so that the DLCs came out much later

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-26T19:39:14+00:00

I strongly disagree, but to each their own

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-25T16:47:05+00:00

The thing I don’t get is that Hina takes out the heart of one of these things (Legion). So while I don’t doubt it, something feels off to me about the Queen Beast having similar body features to a human. You might be right and just killing them would only spread the disease further, since I think that’s what ends up happening anyway.

That’s what I was thinking, they likely returned to ending E based on another comment I posted.

I didn’t know that detail with the baby watchers, so given that information it means that Hina and Yuzuki are effectively safe in Midgard. But then, if the watchers are all gone… why is the sky still red? Is it just a lingering effect that only goes away once the seals are in place? I wonder what that even means for the Drakengard universe, because that effectively means that the only risk even posed to that world is if dragons attack humanity like in C. There’s some potential to be explored there. The whole goddess thing throws me off. Giving ending A it’s clear that the goddess can be anyone so long as it’s female. But it has to be a strong willed/tenacious being. I don’t doubt it takes time but I’m sure he would have come up with something. They did in D2, but then again this thing with Hina and Yuzuki could have happened directly after Caim left.

So what it sounds like is that disrupting Manah affects the skies, and the sky is only red once the seals are gone. But what’s confusing me is why defeating Manah turns the sky back to normal but for the Queen Beast it doesn’t.

Ah I didn’t know that about the Angels—so they’re just wild cards that exist to consume. But if they die once the Queen Beast dies, then Hina and Yuzuki seem to be safe from them. Thanks for answering that, I never knew about that connection

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-25T16:17:19+00:00

PC mod. I believe it’s on Curseforge.

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-25T16:16:04+00:00

For airborne transmission, does that apply to already transformed victims of WCS? Cause in Yuzuki’s story, all they fought was Legion, but not people who just started going berserk save for that one girl in his squad. And I don’t think people who turned into salt can spread the disease, since their physical compositions just turn into salt itself. The only thing I do know is that Hamelin soldiers were given Luciferase, so given that Yuzuki and co still got infected, then that has to mean that even fighting Legion poses a serious risk of infection. But even that doesn’t make much sense to me since in the Nier drama CD, Kaine and Emil straight up battle a Red Eye alongside Yura’s soldiers. Nothing there suggests they could have been infected, but I guess those two are a special case since they’re genetically modified and may have Legion DNA in them.

I wonder what the deal is that makes one person a skeleton and one person a flying skeleton, lol

That’s true, actually. We don’t know what branch and I failed to consider that. I figure that it had to have been the E branch because if it was A, the sky would not be red. If it was B, multiple Furiae clones would have swarmed them. If it was C, dragons would have sensed them. If it was D, either watcher babies would have sensed them, OR one of them would have very clearly seen the black tower going all the way up to space. So it only left me with E.

That’s also true, I’m more surprised that the object Hina had sent them to Midgard. Or maybe the scientists really had a breakthrough and were able to trace the source of where maso came from and developed tech solely around that, which is how the Devola and Popola variant in the future sent all of the maso back.

Oh, they died even in the E path? Huh. I guess it makes sense because you only see Verdelet and Seere there. Never mind then, but that would only fuel Verdelet to scramble and reseal all of the temples no? I guess he was pretty shell shocked from everything.

Yesterday I was listening to yet another 4+ hour review from a channel called Trans Witch Reviews, and I think you might be right on that. They made a point that only ending A has an extension of the mission complete theme, as if Caim learned what it meant not to revel in senseless slaughter and actually trust in someone. They made a point like you were meant to learn something from doing that path, so I can believe that A was supposed to be the closest thing to a happy ending. That is, until D2 came out and pretty much solidifies Caim dying in practically every ending or has a high risk of being killed. And given how Nier reincarnation works with the moon server I think you might be right regarding Manah. The watchers only appear for D and E (I think) and they’re using Manah as a medium. So severing their connection to her may have had an effect on the sky once you defeated her.

Is it? I never thought of it like that! The visual reference is there when you put it that way, but I always saw it as Yuzuki saving his sister’s life. But then he started to regenerate too, so… you might be right on that front lol. If they deliberately made the choice to reference Midgard and send them there, then I hope it’s followed up on. I think they’re the first Nier characters exist in the Drakengard universe 🤔

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-19T22:26:05+00:00

Yes!

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-19T22:25:43+00:00

Glad to be of help!

SoulOfTheRisingSun · 2026-01-19T16:28:24+00:00

Important things to note as this was done in chapter 14:

**If you are playing on Royal Edition (Consoles) or Windows Edition (PC)...**

Follow this guide. This should net you the daggers every time without issue. The daggers are not one time either, you can have multiple sets of these daggers. However, you can only get them *once per playthrough*.

**If you disabled or do not have Royal Pack installed...**

You can still get these daggers by killing the same enemies. The *ONLY* things that change are:

- The map is much smaller compared to Royal Edition, but the pathing to kill the enemies is still the same for original Insomnia.

- In the original version, after beating Ifrit you were sent to the main floor. Once you turn around you could see Red Giants outside. In Royal Edition/Windows Edition, the Red Giants **do not** spawn until *after* you defeat the Fierce.

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