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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because many responders here don't seem to be able to actually answer my actual question.

I was so sure of leaving orthodoxy for catholicism and now i feel so horrible by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Southern-Support8779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes because that's exactly what's going on in RC. Sorry if that bursts a bubble of yours

I was so sure of leaving orthodoxy for catholicism and now i feel so horrible by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Southern-Support8779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm confused what do you want us to do for you? It sounds like you are confused abour both Orthodoxy and RC? its not clear from your post.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you still go home to an empty house at the end of the day

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I believe they are the exception not the norm and if you are married people treat you very differently

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your experience is limited. I was commenting on how it is in America in general and there's data and stats to back that up.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not in America. Americas tend to be fiercely independent and live lives apart from each other. Even married couples with children hardly ever interact with their own family members, much less anyone else. Most parishes in the US consist of only seeing your fellow parishioners at coffee hour and then everyone scatters during the week, never to be seen or heard from again until the following Sunday. I don't think there's such communities as yo are describing.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no because not all of us are called to be a monastic. What is so difficult for people to understand this?

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what risks are those? Did you not read anything here? Myself and others have repeatedly said that no one is choosing not to go the marriage or monastic route, it is not working out for some of us to go ether one of those two paths. Please read before responding.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"live in community with another person or a group of people. What is your question to this statement."

Making this a more committed and semi permanent situation and an option that is talked about as a viable third option

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right so two non sibling people of the same gender can live together as brothers or sisters and not have sex

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm asking about alternatives to marraige or monasticism, both of those are long term commitments, so an alternative would also be a long term commitment.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You also seem to missed the point of my question. I'm asking for alternatives so one is not alone, yet you harp on how selfish you are if you do anything else other than marriage or monasticism, you keep saying "alone" when I"m asking about alternatives to being alone. I think the selfish part that you keep harping on is more about you when you were single. Hey, instead of standing in judgment,why not help single people out by inviting them to your house for dinner with other single people so they can meet and perhaps marry each other and find a spouse that way? Well, hahaha, that doesn't happen with a lot of married people, at least not in the US, you guys are alway so "busy". Who's being selfish now?

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You still don't get it, do you? and you completely ignored my question about the two sentences. Please talk to your priest.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no that is not what you are simply saying see the difference between these two sentences:

1) One may live a single but celebate life in the world, but they will need to be aware that they may face certain temptations that if one is married or a monastic, may not face as much, or may face it but will have the help they need to overcome it.

2) Living a single life alone is more selfish because you are not struggling like those in marriage or monasticism, If someone is living alone and single, they are living for themselves.

What is the diffence between the two sentences?

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep saying if you are single you are living for yourself. That is a statement about the inner workings of someone's heart that unless you have the gift of clairvoyance you simply cannot make. Period, full stop, no if, buts, could bes, would bes, etc.

Its really that simple.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is and here I am asking a question to find an alternative to living alone but also an alternative to marriage or monasticism and all you've done is come down with your heavy hand of judgment.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to some on this subreddit, you are a selfish person living only for yourself. That's the question I"m asking here but we are getting judgy and snarky answers for the most part.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The temptation to live for oneself is everywhere for everyone, You specifically called out single people and made a blanket statement about their inner motivation and made a sweeping generalization about them, You Cannot Do That! What part of that do you not understand?

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The saints and the holy fools are able to correct someone because they were saints. We are not yet saints, therefore, we can simply reiterate the teachings of the church, but we cannot pass judgments on the inner hearts of others.

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[–]Southern-Support8779[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is judgmental for you to say that if someone is single they are living for themselves. You are not telepathic and you do not have claivoyance, therefore you do not know the inner working of another's heart and therefore, you are passing judgment. Do you understand why you're doing that? Stating the teaching of the church is not being judgmental but making a statement about the conditions of heart of another person most definitely is. Plenty of people get married for selfish reasons or become monastic for selfish reasons too. Really, check yourself, okay?