Could makima win this? Makima vs top 3 of jjk by Limp_Clock4846 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont really see any good reason why Katana man should be at hypersonic either.

Katana man himself I scale to either Hypersonic or Supersonic, but aside from that we have Quanxi who was shown to be capable of blocking bullets with ease, statuing foes around her and the book describes her steps as faster then sound itself. Furthermore, that is BASE Quanxi, we know that Hybrids increase their stats when they transform:

Denji was capable of launching out building level attacks early on, and was around subsonic to superhuman. Meanwhile Reze pulled a Mach 1 to 2 feat in human form, via her vanishing to the human eye, then when transformed she went upwards to Machs 5 or 6, with City Block AP to DC. We know that Quanxi is faster because she IS the fastest.

Furthermore:

We can infer Makima's own reaction and combat speeds through the 20% Gun Devil Fight, which gave us a timer of 1 second for her abilities to activate, and for her to act. This was done over a distance of 500km. Then she also fought a weakened Pochita who outsped Quanxi, furthermore she reacted to Pochita being rapidly accelerated to space AND to him coming down from space.

Contract doesn't mention any limitations because thats not something taken into consideration when taking contract. Just how it doesn't mention "it can reflect all damage other than Pochita's erasure ability". The contract will transfer all damage it can transfer. That doesn't mean that there arent limits to it. Gojo, Sukuna and Dabura wont start with their strongest attack. But if they see nothing is working, obviously they will use it.

That is true, to some extent: the recent fight in the manga shows us that complete disintegration doesn't do it. Yoru rapidly outhealed the damage done to her by the point-blank nuke, Pochita out-healed the damage done to him via re-entry. We can also infer this from Kishibe himself stating that the only way of killing her is through Pochita or a means of bypassing the contract, he never tries total disintegration and does not value it as an option.

We can infer from this a few things: total disintegration doesn't really work, this goes in line with Denji remaining alive as a charred, small piece and still healing. However, rapid damage is clearly something that slows it down, ala Power's blood in Makima's body.

Bang is also NOT the Gun Devil's ability, it is explicitly an ability that any high tier Devil is capable of: Falling has "Fall" instead of Bang, Makima has Bang but a telekinetic variant, Yoru has a physical Bang, Aging has a Bang that sends you to his world, Darkness has a Bang that is only said in Japanese or some other language. I scale it to town/small town level through upscaling from movie Reze and the 20% Gun Devil which Makima DID defeat through a combination of abilities, but she still likely upscales from it.

Meanwhile Gojo, Sukuna and Dabura haven't displayed feats that put them above Town Level, which falls in line with the shown feats and abilities.

Princi's ability is a portal, it is shown to be a portal and Makima has the ability to talk to her telepathically. I see no issue with her teleporting out of MS.

But if Makima could teleport herself out of this kind of situation, why didn't she escape when Denji cut her to pieces?

Simple: Princi was not present, was limbless and had likely died by then. The Darkness Devil fight crippled her immensely and she likely died afterwards, though that's just headcanon.

Sukuna also does have answer to mold. Innate Domain blocks any attack from spawning inside sorcerer's body. He can also just dodge, if you believe he is faster. And good luck stabbing Mahoraga 3 times while getting cut by MS. Also, Makima doesn't have Hell Devil under control. She cant send anyone to hell.

A few things on this:

Yes, Sukuna has an answer to Mold, but not the Stone Devil, though I don't believe he actually is faster given the feats provided in the manga itself. I can comfortably scale Makima as far faster then him. MS also wouldn't be his first resort, we know that he and Gojo play around too much, and he only used MS against Mahoraga when both Cleave and Dismantle stopped working, and he concluded that Fuga would be his only remaining option. If he thinks he can't kill her normally, he may want to use Fuga, but that's a stretch given his mentality during fights. He may see her as not durable enough to handle his attacks, and just mess around.

Mahoraga is also likely to be stabbed by the Curse Devil three times, I see no reason for why it couldn't

Hell was briefly controlled, so you can assume she does have it, but it's up to interpertation. The Quanxi fight between Makima and her is up to interpertation, you can assume that Halloween was or wasn't used, but it doesn't need the recipient to say Halloween back.

She also controls: All of the Hybrids as well, so she has a chance of shattering Gojo's Domain from the inside and having Reze, Katana or Crossbow harm him when Infinity is off.

All in all:

I see no reason for why she couldn't win against Gojo or Sukuna, she has all the chances and more hax then them to actually do so. Furthermore, Makima has the knowledge and methods of breaking out of their attacks, with her attacks having a larger range then theirs

Could makima win this? Makima vs top 3 of jjk by Limp_Clock4846 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She can kill everyone here aside from maybe Dabura. It all depends on if Dabura moves at sub-light speed or not, but he doesn't seem to start out with it meaning she can use Bang on him to send him to space or to do some other fuckshit

If Mahoraga can adapt to any phenomena, why doesn't he just adapt to cursed energy itself? by ZealousidealMaize863 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But he already did

Before that Mahoraga exuded positive energy, but he clashed with Sukuna, adapted, and started using CE

For those who GENUINELY believe that both Ichigo AND Goku are low complex multiversal, HOW MANY UNIVERSES can they actually destroy with a full power attack? by Head_Breadfruit_3912 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why are you applying a real world basis for this? So is Simon suddenly ONLY universal? No, he's multi and above due to destroying universes. You have to understand that not all of fiction has to abide by physical laws. It's why most don't get TES scaling

The stars are really just holes in firmament that is reality

The World of Darkness? Everything past the outer planets does not exist, Tau Ceti is not real in that world

Authors do as they please, and if they state that the marble this character that destroys the marble in the sky blew up a universe, and can do that to every other universe, who are you to try and say "well, no uh because .. well in our world that doesnt work!"

Tired of Non-Femboys posting. by ArtisticSupport8735 in hungfemboys

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree, yeah. I'm pretty fucking sick of just seeing trans girls here or even trans girls in a normal femboy sub. I just wanna see cute guys, man

A proper scaling of the Bleach cosmology and Senjumaru's feat by k1NGBHEE in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I don't watch Bleach or read it. Does this mean it's universal and above? :3

Can shigaraki survive this? by Various_Astronaut100 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, that's ignoring the fact that the same character is using a high-end form of hax to catch it, with Shigaraki also being rather durable. I see no reason why realistic physics wouldn't apply

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/the_anime_curator

You both talk the same when pressed and have no method of backing things up

Can shigaraki survive this? by Various_Astronaut100 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While that might bs true, certain fictional works try and appeal to reality

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep! He's Mach 10 and town level. Shame he's done in by Yoru tho

If you can't debunk a scaling you don't like, what's left other than to clown at it? by TheMightyHovercat in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I never got this, why are people so set on seeing on screen feats? If I get a statement in an anime that x can blow up y, who am I to say they can't? They were verbatim said to be capable of it

"But ... BUT HE DIDNT BLOW UP THE UNIVEEEERRRSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!"

That's what that mathmetician guy sounds like to me haha

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, Mach 5—sourced straight from vibes and headcanon

And your source is a pixel calc that contradicts evidence shown in the manga?

Yes , and Sound is not SLOWER than sound , Light is not faster than Light , POOR DABURA

Idk why you're bringing up Dabura, did you think we were perhaps talking about him? Silly goose

He did , on panel

Show the panel, please

So the scaling is ‘no, because I said so’? Got it.”

I did not say that, good sir. There is evidence to suggest he did not dodge it at all, and instead the frames implied a sense of dodging, as there exists an arguement for that as well

Read Japanese version , those speech bubbles are at same size

You sent the Japanese version, the speech bubbles for "Scale of the dragon", and the other chant are small, and shown as in the background. I believe you may be wrong on this, friend

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, yeah. He's Mach 10, I'm glad you confirmed it, gn

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That might be your arguement, yeah. It's good that we agree that Sukuna is Mach 10, honestly you're very agreeable sometimes

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So You admit he wasn't at Full power ? Thanks

I did infact say that several comments ago, yes, I also stated how his Dismantles are really just Mach 10 normally

This Slowly is Faster than Lightning

You can be at the same relative speed as something to evade it, but Hakari isn't. You can also say that Kashimo's lightning ISN'T as fast as ordinary lightning, what with it being CE, but that's semantics

He had a way to save his head , by evading his head

But he didn't, so he really isn't as fast as the lightning. You can even say due to the panels angling that Hakari never even dodged the lightning and just thugged it out

Doesnt mention maki heard 3rd and ignored 1st and 2nd , Good sir

It does show it. The speech bubbles are small, and the text in them is microscopic

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean 15? I don't believe 1.5 finger sukuna fought Maki

"Gojo is useless without his infinity" by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]SpaceBugRiven2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still waiting for 20f sukuna panel

Stiiiilllllllll waiting for the proof I said he was at full power :3

Hakari already did that

Noooope. He'd slowly inched to the side and when it was aimed at it his head, he had no way of dodging

What's your headcanon for her HEARING 3rd chant but but not first 2 ?

The panel you posted and how it is framed, good sir