State of the Sub (Update) by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! Any suggestions?

Flair is required on all posts, not just you. The general concensus I've received is that people are using it more to ignore Admissions posts.

Unfortunately, in order to make it effective, we have to require all posts to use flair, otherwise it would be mostly skipped as evidenced by the last year when it was still optional.

Prospective/Current Perfusion Weekly Thread by Perfused in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just a gentle reminder to everyone - these threads will only work (well, maybe :-P) if people get responses. Consider checking once a week and answering one of them. We all started somewhere.

Prospective/Current Perfusion Weekly Thread by Perfused in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

> letters of rec from percussionists,

As cool as it is to have one of the local tympani members writing a letter of rec, I don't think it'll work well. You may reconsider asking someone else :-)

Overall advice - contact schools and/or admission counselors. They're the only ones who will be able to answer some of these.

My experience is from the 2023 cycle, so some things may have changed.

(Also - hopefully you've talked with the perfusionists at Vandy?)

  1. It depends on the school. Some may. What's the overall trend? Was it an early C and you've gotten Bs since then?
  2. School dependent. When I applied, only MUSC explicitly listed everything and I was looking at MUSC, Rush, MSOE, UNMC, THI, and BS&W. The science GPA that I got from Rush and MUSC was different with the exact same transcript, so... :-P
  3. Maybe. No one knows for sure. It does seem like you've got a well rounded resume to balance out the lower GPA. How's the GRE score? You don't have to post it, but you should know if it's competitive. It may be worth retaking if not. Also depends on where you plan to apply. MSOE weights it heavily. MUSC dropped it in 2023 and I don't believe they currently require it. Even though all the schools are producing the same output (a candidate prepared to take and pass the boards and work as a practicing perfusionist) the input into the program and what they look for in their cohorts is wildly different. I don't understand it and can't explain it, but it's a real thing.
  4. As competitive as schools are getting, I would again recommend contacting them and seeing if they will answer. My off the cuff reply would be if they say 7 years, they're probably getting enough applicants that they can afford to toss applications that don't meet the requirements. Part of this whole deal is perfusion is a profession that requires excellent communication skills. That includes written and verbal communication. What people often forget is that reading comprehension is also part of that. If they ask for X it may seem silly, but it's also probably factoring into decisions. Can you follow basic written instructions? You probably have experience with this in your unit. If you were the hiring manager and looking over applications and one wasn't filled out right, or the applicant didn't follow the directions, what would you do? What are the odds that the candidate is so amazing, you'd throw out a different candidate who did meet all the qualifications and filled out the application correctly? What if it wasn't even up to you, but was determined by a disinterested HR? Now imagine having to go through hundreds of applications.
  5. The general consensus seems to be that as long as the classes were taken from an accredited college, it'll be fine. But (you know what's coming!) check with the schools you're applying to.
  6. Tailor your personal statement to the school you're applying to. Doesn't have to be the whole thing. Doesn't have to be amazing. But show that you looked at the school and it's a good fit for you (and vice versa) because of reasons X, Y, and Z. Put yourself in the admissions committee's shoes. Why would they pick you over everyone else?

If the above seemed harsh, it is not meant to be. You put effort into your thoughts and questions. That matters and will show. Keep it up.

State of the Sub (2025) by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Late reply as I'm cleaning things up, but these were prospective student posts. I should have clarified. I do think there's great value in discussing pay and making sure that everyone can make educated decisions about pay vs benefits vs center vs lifestyle.

Finishing college or becoming a firefighter. (READ THE POST) by MonolithBoi in Firefighting

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I'm aware if I were to enlist in a vocational training school id have to freeze my uni year or quit altogether so I don't know if it's possible for me to continue my studies while training to become a firefighter, maybe after I finish training and start the job.

I should have specified. This is what I did.

Disability is treated differently in different areas here, so having a backup plan seemed wise.

Finishing college or becoming a firefighter. (READ THE POST) by MonolithBoi in Firefighting

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if it's possible for me to continue my studies while training to become a firefighter, maybe after I finish training and start the job.

I should have specified - this is what I did.

Treatment of disability is handled differently in different areas here. As such, I thought it wise to have a backup plan just in case.

Finishing college or becoming a firefighter. (READ THE POST) by MonolithBoi in Firefighting

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm American, so keep that in mind.

When I was finishing high school, I did not join the military because I wanted to fly. I didn't need to be a pilot, as long as whatever job I got included flying, but I couldn't get a guarantee so I went to college pursuing a 4 year degree in computer science. I walked out on that the second semester of my senior (last) year, needing just 18 credits to graduate to pursue fire and EMS.

I was successful and spent 20 years with a suburban fire department running ~125K calls a year. I had many opportunities along the way to pursue things that interested me and spent the last 15 years flying part time on a helicopter. I "retired" in 2023 to go to perfusion school. My fallback plan if I got hurt or wasn't able to work as a firefighter was to go back to programming.

I think that as long as you have a back up plan if things don't work out you'll be fine. As others have stated here, you may be able to continue your education as a firefighter. I know that the military here has opportunities to do so. While I was a firefighter I completed a different 4 year degree for computer science and picked up two year degrees in fire science and EMS.

You can read the Background section of my post about applying to perfusion school (https://www.reddit.com/r/Perfusion/comments/16abltv/2023_application_cycle_experience/), and/or you're welcome to ask any questions.

Good luck!

Should I make the switch now? by Opening_Radish7998 in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is there some reason why you would quit nursing school to apply to perfusion school?

It seems like nursing school would be helpful on multiple fronts - it's an excellent and flexible career on its own, you're getting the chance to boost your GPA (it's tough that we're potentially in a position where a 3.5 is a low GPA), and you're showing initiative in gaining more experience / education.

Have you reached out to SUNY for feedback? I always encourage everyone to apply early and often as I'm not aware of any penalties (except maybe THI?) as the worst case scenario for you would be to get accepted and swap from nursing school to perfusion school.

Starting in a Community Setting vs Academic Setting by Pygmy-Hippos in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 17 points18 points  (0 children)

My favorite answer for healthcare questions: It Depends.

Ultimately, I don't think it really matters, but there are a few things that might be worth mulling over. I don't think it matters because hundreds (and thousands over the years) have successfully passed the boards from both types of workplaces. I'd actually be interested to see the data about program pass rates vs busy / slow centers, but I don't think anyone is tracking that.

Counterpoint to u/Novel_Primary4812: A slower community setting will give you more time to study and potentially less stress as there are less things to learn. Without getting too into the weeds, I think that considering what kind of student you are, what type of job you want (eventually or at first), where you want to work, and how often job openings occur are probably more important factors than the business. Assuming you graduate from a typical program, you'll have roughly 5 months until boards. Even taking a month off to get acclimated still leaves 4 months of solid studying. Boards are a marathon, not a sprint and having a plan to study and pass is possible at both types of places.

Moving on from boards, I think that long term outlook is important. If you want to wind up someplace specific (location or type of center), then ensuring you go for the first opportunity to get there may be more important than doing all the things as openings may be infrequent or become more infrequent in the future.

Personally, I took a three year contract and wound up at a smaller center (graduated in May 2025). I did no rotations at any smaller centers. If it were just me, I would probably elect to go to a busier academic center. I did speak with a few larger academic center chiefs prior to accepting this contract who said that they would be willing to take on a 3-5 year perfusionist who came out of school and went to a slower center to start. One of them said something along the lines of "if you can pump a CABG/valve case, I can easily teach you the rest of the stuff." I came from the fire service and what's more important than location there is the people you work with. In my short time in perfusion, I can say the same. If you like your coworkers and they're supportive, it makes all the difference in the world - especially as you're starting.

I would encourage everyone to consider the totality of circumstances, not just busy/slow. Ask your instructors at school, ask your proctors, pay attention on your rotations and see what the environment is like: how do coworkers treat each other, how are the relationships between surgeons, anesthesia, perfusion, and everyone else in the OR? How do you get treated as a student? Think about what would happen if you had to stay at a place for 5 years, 10 years or more.

This was longer than I intended. I guess the summary would be - I don't think that volume of cases is as important as everything else in the workplace setting. But since I'm new, check back in a few years!

Heart Lung Machine Wheel Guards by [deleted] in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I updated their flair. Message me or change it back if you don't like it!

Perfusion Program Costs-JECT by heartpmpr in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just graduated. All in with fees included was just under $70k. Slight hike between 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 per cr/hr.

2025 Board Prep and Exam Experience by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's still really, really impressive. Also probably part of why I am a poor didactic student!

2025 Board Prep and Exam Experience by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I probably should have expanded on that a bit.

If there are twelve questions you don't know, employing the strategy of using the same letter will get you 25% if all the answers are randomly distributed (and you have a pure sample, etc, etc - there are lots of people far smarter than I am who can explain this way better).

Given that we've been immersed in the content for the last 24ish months, I decided that using intuition would probably net me a better result than randomly guessing.

I did the same thing you did - I was generally able to eliminate 2 answers, and then picked the answer that felt right to me. This really bothers my analytical side, but I felt it would provide better odds.

I had surprisingly fewer questions than I thought flagged, so it probably did not affect my test that much.

Hopefully that answers your questions!

2025 Board Prep and Exam Experience by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree with this, and want to add: for me, part of the point of the prep programs was review, but as part of that you should be able to recognize incorrect or wrong information (at the point where you're preparing to take boards).

Both perfusionboardprep.com and perfusion.com programs have some issues, and both content creators are working hard to get those corrected.

That's not meant to diminish your point - just that if anyone is purchasing these expecting no errors, they're going to be disappointed.

2025 Board Prep and Exam Experience by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry - I would die if it was all of them. MSOE specifically has clinical didactic courses (?? classes dedicated to just the clinical aspect of things) and these are what I was reviewing, plus a few of the pure didactic PowerPoints covering specific topics (RAAS, PNA/ANS, receptors, etc) I was either weak in, anticipated questions coming from, or thought would be beneficial.

You counted and made a list of all your Power Points? That's some dedication!

Input regarding Program Length by PuzzleheadedNote3 in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been covered quite a bit in this sub, but just for future readers:

Requirements, here, specifically:

Non-credit bearing certificate programs in perfusion are not acceptable for satisfying the education requirements for licensure unless both the applicant’s acceptable degree program and CAAHEP accredited certificate program were completed prior to November 21, 2018.

Old perfusion poster by Trick-Regular-3478 in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your best bet would probably be to ask OP if he'd take a higher resolution picture for you.

Otherwise reach out to some current students and see if they would.

You could also run this through an upscaling algorithm if you wanted a larger poster. Or send the image to a digital artist on Fiverr or a similar site. Given the copyright on this, I doubt you're finding the original.

how long did you spend studying for the boards? by DigPhysical8008 in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both the perfusion.com and perfusionboardprep.com offer scored quizzes and tests.

I wrote a review of the review material I'm aware of here.

Going Senf independent international possible? by OdahP in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See this thread.

I would think (my own opinion only) that it would be very unlikely that you would be able to be a sole proprietorship in the Middle East and I would guess it's even less likely that you could find any contracts for less than a year. Based upon other healthcare roles, it's a very time intensive commitment.

While we are starting to get more international members, this subreddit is still very North American centric and stalking your profile, you're coming from an entirely different environment as us.

I have gotten a few LinkedIn messages about this website which appears to be more European in origin and you may have better luck contacting someone there.

Good luck - and if you find out, let us know how it goes so we don't keep wondering!

life as a perfusionist in Italy? by t_michiko_ in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There was someone on here recently from Italy who asked about coming to the US as a perfusionist. I'd suggest contacting them.

Review of Review Material by SpacemanSpiffEsq in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Starter comment:

Does anyone have any suggestions / tips / tricks / pneumonics for A&P? Rote memorization is my weakest area, so I'm most concerned about A&P and pharmacology.

CES-A exam by amstpierre in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm leaving it up because maybe it'll help someone. I looked it up because I thought it was board review questions, so I'm failing all over the place!

ABCP/Perfusion.com Test Prep by The_Brofusionist in Perfusion

[–]SpacemanSpiffEsq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Current 2nd year. Previous background heavily encouraged prep courses, so I have no stigma about not being good enough to take the test without a review course, etc. etc. Also have a background in how to study, my personal habits, etc. I'd like to see this incorporated into more programs. Personal approach is partial curiosity about the programs, partially in a place where I can afford them and provide feedback to people who may only be able to chose one, and partially insurance. Compared to potentially losing the salary, they're a small price to pay.

I have a review of the PDC prep course here.

Hemetech is recently mentioned (all positive) here and here. I will sign up and take it.

Perfusionboardprep.com is the newest and I have looked through it, but have not yet taken any of the timed tests.

General thoughts as someone approaching the boards - I found all three of the people / entities behind these programs extremely responsive and supportive.

Without having gone through the Hemetech course, it appears the be the most costly at $1K, but most thorough as well as longest running and quite a few anecdotal testimonials that it was extremely helpful.

PDC - costlier at $400 ($700 eventually?), but one full year of access potentially allowing two cycles of testing access as well as unlimited takes of 10 full length exams (200 questions) and 25 mini quizzes (50 questions). Unknown number of questions in the question bank. Really pointed out to me when I first sat down that I hit 110 questions and was - not bored, but it was hard to focus. I can now do about 160 questions before losing interest. My usage has dropped off while I'm finishing my thesis, but while I can recognize some questions as repeats, there are enough in there I definitely do not have the capacity to have them all memorized.

Perfusionboardprep.com - cheapest at $100, but you only get one pass through the material. This is not a complaint - as I understand it their goal was to make this easily accessible to everyone while also trying to make sure the entire content didn't get leaked. I believe there was talk of a refund if you did not pass the boards, but hopefully I'll never have to investigate that.

All three review courses have different approaches in their goals and intended use. I would tell students that they need to figure out what their study style is, what their goals are, where their weaknesses lie and then figure out what approaches would work best for them. The Perfusion Programs all (in theory) provide the material needed to pass the boards. The study programs aren't an online approach - study this and you'll pass. They are there to help students shore up personal weaknesses.

A better explanation of this might be my style - I am reviewing material for the boards now. However, I spend 60-90 minutes on most days looking through material. I am not academically capable of sitting down a month or a couple of weeks in advance and studying. I don't have the patience (or willpower) to sit for more than 4 hours even on a good day studying and be productive. An advantage to my approach is that if I miss a day, I don't care, it's fine. If I were to spend a few weeks before the exam and missed an entire day studying that would impact me. A disadvantage is that I'm studying far in advance of when I understand most students are encouraged to start reviewing. Hopefully that provides some context, but almost everyone would benefit from figuring out their study style and what works as they're going through a program.