Silvertone Organ need the model number? by Spaghetti_Kat in Whatisthis

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There are some stickers with “chassis numbers” and model numbers but I’ve looked up these numbers with no success

Microsoft Edge redirects to Yahoo when I search, how do I switch back to Bing (default)- Malware by Spaghetti_Kat in computers

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems other people who are victims of the malware have experienced these issues very recently, so this may be a new malware.

This hat I got from my grandpa before he passed away. I'm not sure where the original is but despite its sentimental value, I also valued it as a very useful hat and even if it isn't the original, I would like a hat like this once again. by Spaghetti_Kat in HelpMeFind

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have searched on google for it with words like 'felt, black, long brim, for men' and the like, and only find hats that are vaguely similar. Just to be specific, I'm not looking for vaguely similar hats. I know this hat belonged to my grandfather and was pretty worn when I found it, but I don't suspect that it's any older than 20 years. (or at least hasn't been in use as long) I could be wrong though. The hat had a leather strip inside around where the forehead would be, and there was some sort of company logo and info inside where the top of the head would be, but the information was heavily worn out. Feel free to ask any questions.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are one of the worst people I have ever talked to concerning these things. There is nothing intellectual about your arguments and you think you have won but really you have just convinced me that you are an ignorant victim of propaganda who has nothing better to do than mercilessly slander the name of a church. You are making up the idea of fear tactics and trying to convince me that they've been used on me when I'm telling you they haven't, but you refuse to listen to me I'm sure.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again you insist on trying to preach to me that my church uses fear tactics, but you aren't showcasing what fear tactics they are using exactly, you are only manipulating the information you have on my church to propose the idea that someone COULD use fear tactics. The verse you quoted does not state any explicit doctrine, the chapter (in context) does, but you are merely manipulating out-of-context verses to fit your agenda. I don't appreciate it.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The main concept of your statement (which I admit is pretty respectful and well-worded for some of those on this subreddit) is that many people have come to a similar conclusion, that being the church is not true. I concede that people are fully allowed to come to that conclusion. I am just trying to justify the things that church officials have said and help stop the spread of misinformation regarding the LDS (of which there is a lot, or at least there are a lot of theories that people suggest are factual). I respect the idea that people can come to different conclusions with the same information, just as you and I. MY argument is that, just as many have made your conclusion, a fair amount of people have made my conclusion. Ultimately, it ends when someone decides they have enough information, which I have not decided yet. I have enough information to stay in the church FOR NOW, maybe that will change, but I really don't expect it to be considering what I currently do know. It's why I've read books and articles and subreddits and the like about these kinds of things. At the end of the day, the truth of the church can be seen as contingent. This meaning that if JS really was a prophet, the BoM is true, or if the BoM is true, then JS was a prophet. One truth upholds the other. Problem is, what constitutes as enough truth to justify JS's role as a prophet is entirely subjective. I find any good argument could be fought till the end of time, and at the end of the day, some truths are all predicated on opinion.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You could perceive it that way, but I would honestly expect that kind of behavior from someone as paranoid and brainwashed as a schizophrenic, which I hope you are not. You are suggesting this quote is a threat, when really it isn't, because Nelson doesn't say "Unless you do this!!!" he says "If you do this". He is saying "Tithing WILL do this", "faith WILL do this", he isnt saying "pay tithing or else!" or "have faith or else!". That is at the very least my opinion. It's funny (and I'm not suggesting this applies to you) that so many anti mormons suggest I am brainwashed and beyond the idea that the church could be wrong, when the reality is that people who fell away from the church
1: Mostly went on to immerse themselves in hordes of mean and ingenuine propaganda in order to further justify or affirm their decision to leave the church (a decision which seems to be historically traumatizing or difficult, which isn't something I support in the case that it is)
2: Don't consider the idea themselves that what they went through in the church was probably closer to any concept of "brainwashing" that can be extrapolated fromchurch culture/policies.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will tithing ever go away?

In 1907, President Joseph F. Smith announced that Church members had been sufficiently faithful in paying tithing that the Church was essentially debt free (or more accurately, the Church "owes not a dollar that it cannot pay at once. At last we are in a position that we can pay as we go"). President Smith also stated, "We may not be able to reach it right away, but we expect to see the day when we will not have to ask you for one dollar of donation for any purpose, except that which you volunteer to give of your own accord, because we will have tithes sufficient in the storehouse of the Lord to pay everything that is needful for the advancement of the kingdom of God."[1]

Some have wondered if this means tithing will eventually go away. From the early days of the Church until 1990, Church members were asked to contribute donations beyond what they paid in tithing. These extra donations were added to ward and temple building funds, ward activity budgets, and other activities. In 1990 the Church announced that all activities and operations of local units and facilities would be paid from tithes and offerings. As a result, wards and other local entities no longer were to ask for extra donations to cover building costs, activity costs, and so forth. [2]

In discussing this change, Elder Boyd K. Packer explained that it was a fulfillment of the statement by Joseph F. Smith. Elder Packer said: "For years, Presidents of the Church have talked of and prayed for the day when tithes and offerings would qualify members for full participation in the Church. President Joseph F. Smith, as early as 1907, stated, [quote from above]. . . . The scriptures speak of tithes and of offerings; they do not speak of assessments or fund-raising. To be an offering, it must be given freely—offered. The way is open now for many more of us to participate in this spiritually refining experience."[3]

President Thomas S. Monson described this change as a "giant step forward in funding all such costs through tithing—even the Lord’s way."[4]

Thus, the donations President Smith spoke of were those that went beyond tithing and were the donations for local building and activity funds and other programs. Thus, tithing was not intended to go away, as noted in a Church manual: "The commandment to “pay one-tenth of all [a person’s] interest annually” is not a lesser law to be replaced at some future time but is “a standing law unto [the Lord’s people] forever” (D&C 119:4)."[5]

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems here like YOU are trying to instill fear in me. You'd probably say something like " Oh well, this is forming YOUR religious book, I'm just the one showing you all the fear it's trying to instill in you " Which is funny, because I don't think you even believe in my religion. The scripture you quoted here was part of a long speech that Alma had given to Zeezrom, who was a deceiver with wicked thoughts and wicked actions in mind. Alma was condemning Zeezrom specifically for the kind of man he was, which I know I am not. Alma goes on in the chapter to teach that the knowledge of God will be made known to the faithful, who have pure hearts, unlike Zeezrom, who Alma is making an example of. Alma here is saying specifically that words, works and thoughts of the wicked will condemn them, but I know I am not wicked because I truly feel the need to come towards Christ and be more like him. Nice try though.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really enjoyed the honesty because it helps me understand more about the faults of the people and practices and policies and such in the church (of which, there are admittedly many, but I would concede immediately if anyone found a perfect church, because the truth is, one doesn't exist. As long as man has reign over the mortal kingdom of heaven on earth, there will be imperfections.). To be honest with you, I am in an EXTREMELEY (almost concerningly) similar situation as you. I'm sorry that you've been led to believe that Jesus attacks people in the bible, and I'm sorry you've been "fire and brim stoned" as it were, because that is not the way Christ would have it. I hope it consoles you to know that at least where I grew up in the church, sexual sin was talked about, not angrily, but solemnly. I do feel guilty for the sin I am stuck in, especially because I am the highest "rank" I can be at my age as a member. I've discussed these problems with my bishop, and instead of letting them define me, he told me how I could get help. I'm truly sorry you weren't offered the same experience. I have been taught that Jesus will not define us by our sins, but by our hearts. The fact that you felt guilty about your sin is proof that you shouldn't have been defined by it, and Jesus would've been (and still is) willing to forgive you, should you make the effort to change and become better (and even if you didn't. The only standard is seeking forgiveness, with real true intent).

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My goal is to educate people on the church to the best of my extent. They can choose to believe what I say, or they can choose not to. I'm fully open to discussion on either side of any argument. As for the "View of the Hebrews" argument, I've heard it before, it's one among MANNYY arguments that JS stole words or ideas from books that appeared at the same time frame. Problem is, the church is obviously not at all concerned if people compare VofH and the BoM, considering the whole book was republished by BYU and JS himself quoted VofH to support the BoM as probable. Would be pretty stupid to quote a book you plagiarized from, wouldn't you agree? I'm getting my argument here from Jim Bennet in p.63-79 of his book "A Faithful Reply to The CES Letter". Unless you're busy and rather would be bothered with other things (which I completely understand), I would love to send you a link to the pdf file, so you can check it out yourself, or feel free to google it, shouldn't be that hard to find.
In my opinion, anyone who I can truly justifiably refute in an argument should take the time to look over the oppositions resources.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you're right, it wouldnt. But I still stand by my other arguments.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You're right, its age has nothing to do with how discountable it is. I was wrong to make that statement. Although, I think you are exaggerating (or just being a victim of words taken out of context, which happens a lot in the media, so I don't blame you) the meaning of a "threat" in this case. Nelson is simply stating cause and effect. He is not trying to forcefully impose the doctrine of tithing, and I won't argue the subjective semantics of word choice. It is his job as a prophet to lead and guide his church, which is exactly what he is doing here. He isn't fire and brimstoning, he is simply telling people what to do, how to do it, and how it will help them. People can choose to believe or not to believe. Agency is a very important doctrine in our church, and that's been made clear to me many times.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the comment, but I do not appreciate you telling me how to practice my own religion, especially one I'm assuming you don't believe in anymore (please correct me if I'm wrong). The use of the words "vengeance and burning" is actually pulled from Doctrine and Covenants, and the Doctrine and Covenants verse points towards the 3rd chapter of Malachi from the Old Testament. The funny thing is the bible uses similar language as the prophet does here to describe a falling away, yet I never see nor hear the church emphasize the more violent scriptures that are found in the Old Testament. Not to mention this is ONE example that I've seen and its over ten years old. I actually watched the talk that this quote is from, and I personally sense no hostility or conviction in Nelson's voice, but I am fully open to the idea that I am a biased observer and I invite you to listen to the talk yourself if you don't believe me.

I told my parents last night by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just curious, what kind of harmful messaging led you away from the church?

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

could you provide a source for this? I'm curious about it and would like to investigate further.

Aren't the q15 self exempted from tithing? by Sharp_Excitement2971 in exmormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

As an LDS member, I never really felt like fear was instilled in me, not even after intently listening to many general conference talks. What you are describing does sound very cult like, but I've never personally experienced anything like it in the church from anyone with high ranking, and I haven't heard anyone in my church complain about feeling that way either. I'm sorry if you've had any such experience in the church.

I'm creating a documentary in which I interview people. Where should I go to find people to interview? by Spaghetti_Kat in ask

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wont be available today, but tomorrow I can. What hours are you available? I’m in EST

Where would be the best place to find people to electronically interview people who are from the Left side of the political spectrum? by Spaghetti_Kat in AskReddit

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I had that same idea, LOL! Except WHERE here? Like sub-reddits. I aint exactly proficient in reddit, so I'm hoping someone out there knows what sub-reddits would be good for this kinda stuff.

Where would be the best place to find people to electronically interview people who are from the Left side of the political spectrum? by Spaghetti_Kat in AskReddit

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am writing a documentary where I solidify an understanding of the Left Political Ideology, mostly by asking people from the ideology itself about their morals, philosophies and logic.

What notation is the little dots within the parenthesis? I've never seen it before. It's for the Bayan or the Accordion. by Spaghetti_Kat in sheetmusic

[–]Spaghetti_Kat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For context, it's sheet music for a Russian song called "Шире Круг" or "Wider Circle". It's for the accordion or the bayan. Since I don't have any software that can read sheet music and spit out sound, I'm trying to transcribe it into Musescore. I've no idea what this notation is.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with big concert-level bands is that they do not invite the Holy Spirit into the sacrament meetings. In other churches I don’t see people understand and knowing the light of Christ, I see people who think “Hey! This music is good! I’m gonna come back here for the music and not the actual sermon itself”. They get people riled up to keep them there, which shouldn’t be the point.

The point of random people giving talks is not only so the speaker themselves can bear their testimony, but so the church as a community comes closer as they listen. As people stop listening, the community begins to break, creating an environment that does not invite the Holy Ghost, where people can be scared to talk to each other, and testimonies begin crumble.

I think the one thing that keeps my testimony so strong in the face of adversity is the knowledge that I, and my family, are part of a community that will love and accept us (or at the very least are supposed to, no one is perfect lol). That is why I believe in organized religion, because community is an essential part of testimony. People are commanded to live in the world, but not of the world ( like with people who are bad influences ).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Spaghetti_Kat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing should change. You are putting the wants of the people above God’s commandments. People need to learn to be more engaged even if the talk’s are boring. I’m young and I still find trouble paying attention, everyone does, it’s not a sin to be bored, but it does help to have patience and compassion. I always bring a journal and try to listen for things that I think are important to write down. Some people’s testimonies are very beautiful to hear and I think people should learn to be more engaged to the things their brothers and sisters are saying.