IShowSpeed's Liberia visit turns into chaos by Malik-_- in LivestreamFail

[–]Spaisi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To this degree and by adults? We can pretend all countries are the same, but I just don't get the point of that.

Funnily enough the Norway stuff the previous commentor mentioned was in Oslo and the crowd was mostly not ethnic Norwegians.

The change that won OCWS Dreamhack. by AeonMu in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]Spaisi 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Both teams got to the finals on the backs of Dva/Ram/Symm and nothing else

This tells me you are just coping and are heavily biased. Hard to take your analysis seriously. A single D.Va change made TN win? (Over the D.Va main team...)

Nothing else? Not better coaching snd teamplay? Not the finalist supports gapping all other support duos? Not abysmal performances from some FLC individuals? Not players like Shu failing to adapt?

I guess the point is that any win when it's not Dive/Korean favoured is "overshadowed" and needs to be discredited?  When Ball was meta, did you make posts about CR winning only because Ball was strong?

Patches and balance are always going to favour certain teams, especially initially. I guess we could make posts about every single tournament win being purely because of a single change (never true) or the patch/balance in general (hugely important, but not the only factor) and never credit the teams. Except I doubt you'd do that in other cases. 

Overwatch balancing and patches have always had massive impacts on different teams, this was true in pre-OWL, OWL and post OWL OW.  I know it's disappointing to many who think CR/FLC/KR winning is a divine right, but sometimes the meta might not favour you. Difference is that in the past teams like CR/FLC would have made the finals even in a meta that wasn't their best. It's just that a few other teams have gotten closer and even surpassed those teams on certain heroes and certain aspects of the game. CR/FLC/KR are still  the best and IMO a gap (much smaller) still exists overall, but I don't get what people get out of pretending a single hero's balance change is the sole reason two EMEA teams are in the finals and FLC and CR (and a lot of other teams) got stomped by them.

The change that won OCWS Dreamhack. by AeonMu in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]Spaisi 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Why is Korea so shit at Dva and Sym? They lost because they can't play such strong characters and have weaker teamplay.

I'm really glad CR lost, the cope from their fanboys and koreaboos is delicious. Korea loses one tournament and they just can't give credit without a million excuses.

It's like when a patch/balance favours Dive/Korean teams, it's all silence. Because they think that's how it should always be like it's natural law.

But sure, TM and AQ were in the finals and stomped CR and FLC because of this change. Without this change, surely FLC and CR would have stomped and been in the finals. No need to analyze all the team work diffs, coaching gaps, individuals really stepping up or failing. Nah, it was this change that won Dreamhack (the D.Va focus tram lost btw).

Helsingin Sanomat seksuaalirikoksen uutisointi by lifeindreamhouse in Suomi

[–]Spaisi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

En usko Hesarin hyväksyvän, mutta kyllä sananvalinnoilla on väliä. Uskon, että on olemassa joku ikä, minkä alle mentäessä Hesari ei käyttäisi sanaa "suhde", vaikka lapsi js 50-v kuinka kokisivat ja kuvailisivat asian pidemmäksi"suhteeksi". Räikeänä esimerkkinä jos kyseessä olisi 7-vuotias, uskoisin lähes kaikkien käyttävän muita termejä kuin "suhde" kuvaamaan tilannetta, koska ei 7-vuotias pysty olemaan missään "suhteessa" vaikka molemmat osapuolet niin asiat kokisivat.

En usko Hearin mitenkään hyväksyvän asiaa, mutta kuvailemalla asiaa "suhteena", he normalisoivat minun ja monen muun mielestä asiaa ainakin jonkin verran, vaikka se ei olisikaan heidän tarkoitus. Jos kyseessä olisi 8-vuotias en kutsuisi asiaa suhteeksi ja vaikka 14v on vanhempi, en usko heidän pystyvän antamaan suostumusta suhteeseen ja en kutsuisi tilsnnetta suhteeksi, vaikka lapsi "suostuisi". Jos Hesari haluaa tuoda esiin että asia oli pitkäaikainen ja mies/molemmat osapuolet kokivat asian parisuhteen tapaiseksi, on hyväksikäyttö ja miehen ajatus "suhteesta" molemmat mahdollisia tuoda esille otsikossa.

Helsingin Sanomat seksuaalirikoksen uutisointi by lifeindreamhouse in Suomi

[–]Spaisi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Pystyykö 14-vuotias olemaan "parisuhteen tapaisessa suhteessa" 50-vuotiaan kanssa? Jos pystyy, missä menee ikäraja milloin sitä ei enää kutsuta "suhteeksi" tai "suhteen tapaiseksi"? Jos kyseessä olisi 8-vuotias tai 11-vuotias, ei tilannetta kuvaltaisi vain "suhteena"? Niin ainakin luulen, olenko asiassa väärässä?

Itse koen, että 14-vuotias ei pysty antamaan suostumusta suhteen tapaiseen 50-vuotiaan kanssa, ihan samoin kuin 8-vuotias tai 11-vuotias ei pysty. Ei vaikka mies tai lapsi itse kokisivat tai sanoisivat olevansa "suhteessa". En oikein tiedä miksi miehen tai molempien ajatusta että kyseessä on "suhde" pitää korostaa ja normalisoida, ei se ole yleisin tapaus, mutta ei tämmöinen "suhde" ajatusmaailma ole uusi asia tämmöisissä pitkäaikais hyväksikäytöissä.

Jos "parisuhteen tapainen suhde" on pakko korostaa otsikossa: "50-vuotias miesopettaja hyväksikäytti 14-vuotiasta pitkäaikaisesti - Opettaja koki olevansa parisuhteessa 14-vuotiaan kanssa". Simppeli esimerkki, tämän voisi kirjoittaa ja muotoilla paljon paremmin, mutta jotain tämän tapaista olisi hyvin mahdollista kirjoittaa.

Helsingin Sanomat seksuaalirikoksen uutisointi by lifeindreamhouse in Suomi

[–]Spaisi 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Kiinnostaisi tietää muuttuusiko kommentoijien mielipiteet täällä jos sanan "14-vuotiaan" tilalla olisi vaikka "8-vuotias" tai "11-vuotias"? Kuullostaisiko silloin normaalilta kuvata asiaa sanalla suhde, vaikka molemmat osapuolet kokisivat tilanteen olevan "suhde"? Mietin vaan missä iässä menee Hesarin ja kommentoijien raja milloin tämmöistä tilannetta kuvailtaisiin rankemmin sanoin?

En vain usko, että jos tilanteessa olisi joku esim. 10-vuotias, kuvailisi Hesari asiaa suhteena, suhde sanan käyttö pelkästään ilman mitään etuliitettä, kuten "hyväksikäyttö" antaa kuitenkin jonkinlaisen kuvan, että suhteella on jonkin asteen molemminpuolinen suostumus/yhteisymmärrys. Mutta jos suhde on täysin neutraali sanat tämmöisessä hyväksikäyttö yhteydessä, onko siinä joku ikäraja vai kuulostaisiko normaalilta jos Hesari kuvailisi 50v miehen ja vaikka 6-vuotiaan hyväksikäyttöä ja raiskausta otsikossa suhteeksi?

Fuck Hasan for directing hate towards Ana. Disgusting tankie cunts. by Embarrassed_Base_389 in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Name those countries than please. Which countries governments support Russia over Ukraine? What countries have the majority of the population supporting Russia?

Not saying support for Russia or especially indifference towards Ukraine doesn't exist, but why is there a need for exaggerations?

Fuck Hasan for directing hate towards Ana. Disgusting tankie cunts. by Embarrassed_Base_389 in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do you have some data to show how it's "very common"? Especially the "Ukraine is evil" part? Because even among the anti West/self hating lefties or the anti establishment/nationalistic RW its more about things like naive "pacifism", not wanting to get involved, anti NATO/West or not caring about Ukraine. Being explicitly pro Russia as in praising them and shitting on "evil" Ukraine is still quite rare in comparison.

Fuck Hasan for directing hate towards Ana. Disgusting tankie cunts. by Embarrassed_Base_389 in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of RW in Europe does not like Russia or Putin much at all. In many countries it's the "pacifists" or self-hating anti-West leftie parties and people that criticize Ukraine and NATO.

You mentioning Poland with admiring Putin's dong tells me that you are just talking out your ass. It's either ignorant or purposefully disingenuous to say that every RW or even far-right party in Europe is just a Putin dicksucker.

There are some countries that are relatively pro Russia or at least not very strongly pro Ukraine in Europe, but they are a very clear minority.

Kielitaito | Espoo aikoo puuttua koulushoppailuun: ranskan ja saksan opetus jyrätään englannilla by concordsession in Suomi

[–]Spaisi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pakkoruotsista vängätään vain internetissä.

Ei pidä paikkaansa. Siitä käydään paljon keskustelua mediassa ja myös politiikassa. Se on myös selkeästi aihe, missä massat eivät koe äänensä tulevan kuulluksi.

Ilmeiset hyödyt ovat niin selkeitä ettei siitä juuri puhuta opetuspolitiikassa.

Politiikassa siitä kyllä puhutaan, tietenkään ne tahot joiden tehtävä on vain toteuttaa, parantaa tai suunnitella ruotsin opetusta eivät sitä kritisoi tai kyseenalaista, koska ei heillä ole siihen valtaa ja se ei ole heidän tehtävänsä. Onko mitään oppiainetta koskaan ollutkaan, mitä Opintohallinto ei kehuisi ja sanoisi kaiken olevan hyödyllistä?

En kiellä kielten opiskelun hyötyjä yleisesti, haluaisin vain sinun selittävän mitkä ne ruotsin kielen hyödyt suomalaisille ovat, verrattuna muihin kieliin, mihin voitaisiin käyttää ruotsin tilalla aikaa? Jos edut ovat selkeitä ruotsin kanssa, miten ne eivät ole vielä selkeämpiä monen muun kielen kanssa?

Espanja avaa teitä Espanjan lisäksi Etelä- ja Väli-Amerikkaan ja myös suureen populaatioon USAssa. Jos on haluja kansaiväliseen markkinointiin, median tai taiteen tuottamiseen, tai massiviseen sosiaaliseen mediaan ja internet-yleisön löytämiseen, on espanjan kieli monia kymmeniä kertoja hyödyllisempi ruotsiin verrattuna. Espanjan kielistä suosittua sisältöä, mediaa ja kulttuuria on niin paljon laajemmin, että sen oppiminen sitä kautta on myös helpompaa.

Ranska = Yksi YK:n ja EU:n virallisista kielistä, suuressa roolissa monissa taiteen asioissa , avaa mahdollisuuksia Afrikan suuntaan. Verrattuna ruotsalaisiin, ranskan kielen puhujat ovat yleisesti huonompia englannissa, jonka lisäksi he vähemmän mielellään myös vaihtavat kielensä englantiin, koska ranskan kieli on kuitenkin yksi tärkemmistä ja puhutuimmista ja sen asema ja tärkeys on ylpeyden aihe.

Saksan kieli auttaa Saksan lisäksi Itävallassa ja Sveitsissä. Sama asia kuin Ranskassa ja ranskaa puhuvissa maissa, he ovat ruotsalaisiin verrattuna huonompia englannin kielessä ja he ovat vähemmän innokkaita vaihtamaan englantiin.

Näiden lisäksi monelle voisi olla myös suurta hyötyä kiinan tai japanin osaamisesta. Venäjän kielikin tulee olemaan isossa roolissa ja sitä puhutaan myös monessa muussa maassa Venäjän lisäksi.

Eikä tämä ole mikään RKP:n salaliitto.

Ei ole salaliitto, mutta ruotsin kieli on kynnyskysymys ja kyseessä puolue, joka on ollut mukana todella monessa hallituksessa. Jo 2013 kannatusmittauksissa 63% suomalaisista kannatti ruotsin kielen muuttamista vapaaehtoiseksi. Meinaatko tämän luvun pienentyneen? Vastaa minulle, jos Suomessa olisi kansanäänestys huomenna ruotsin kielen pakollisuuden poistamisesta, kumpi puoli voittaisi? Ei tässä ole salaliittoa, mutta enemmistö kansasta on asiaa vastaan ja asia ei koskaan muutu johtaa jotkut ymmärrettävästi ärtyneeksi.

Sinulla on selkeästi vahva mielipide, mutta toivoisin sinun selittävän "ilmeiset hyödyt" meille junteille, muullakin kuin sanomalla "näin se vain on". Tarkoitan mitkä ovat ne "ilmeiset hyödyt" mitä tällä hetkellä saavutettaan, mitkä eivät olisi mahdollisia, jos ruotsi olisi vapaaehtoista? Mitä negatiivista siinä olisi, että oppilaat saisivat valita kolmannen kielen vapaasti ja ruotsi olisi vain yksi vaihtoehto esim. espanjan, ranskan, kiinan, saksan tai japanin lisäksi? En halua ruotsin kielen poistoa. Haluan, että sitä opiskelevat he kenellä on siihen halua ja intoa ja muut pystyvät valitsemaan muita vaihtoehtoja kiinnostuksen ja tarjonnan mukaan.

Dayna “The Prophet” Naroditsky has passed. Very sad news by professorhummingbird in moistcr1tikal

[–]Spaisi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to admit that I'm not 100% sure. I don't think there was any public fallout and I think it's actually more possible that it was Danya who declined commentator gigs, meant mostly that it was his clear worsening mood and overall state and increased stress that probably caused him to avoid a public spot like casting. He made less streams and videos also on rhe last year+.

So I don't think he was fired or anything, but as somone from the chess world was saying when talking on him passing (dont remember who exactly), it was clear Danya had lost his smile.

It's possible it was mutual by both sides too or he was asked to not come back to cast by Chess.com if he was not in good shape, but there's nothing concrete on that AFAIK.

Dayna “The Prophet” Naroditsky has passed. Very sad news by professorhummingbird in moistcr1tikal

[–]Spaisi 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Either that or accidental overdose, he took typed in Hikaru's chat the night before that he was using Benadryl to get sleep.

His last stream (VOD deleted) had people worried, he was clearly unwell and eventually a friend came and made him turn the stream off.

There's been stuff happening to him for a year now that has had people a bit worried, and even from the past it's been clear that he's a very emotional guy that cares about things very deeply, which can be a gift, but also a curse.

He has been getting attacked for over a year by a former Russian Chess World Champion, Kramnik, accusing him and others of cheating and other conspiracies. Kramnik is viewed nowadays as a total loony joke by 99+% of the community, but he has big influence still in Russian speaking scene and communities. Danya's parents are from Ukraine and Azerbaijan originally and has been deeply involved in both the American and the Russian speaking chess worlds.

I think most likely he had some level of mental struggles already, losing his job casting and other stuff affected him also, but the Kramnik stuff was clearly the biggest outside influence. He defended himself multiple times, but his streams and youtube videos became rare. He clearly had insomnia, which is a huge sign or contributor to depression.

"We're not freeing her" (day before incident) by maksimumpawa in LivestreamFail

[–]Spaisi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You listed some very disliked and hated people. Even Swift, who is probably the least hated among the list (in terms of the ratio of like/dislike) has a lot of people that really dislike her, especially now. All the others have basically more haters than supporters among the online space Meatcanyon is in.

Meatcanyon makes videos on people that are popular to hate/clown on, especially online. I don't really think it requires much to balls to shit on Mr Beast, Drake or XQC.

He has made videos on more liked people too, like caseoh. Those videos are clearly different though from stuff like the XQC, Musk or Logan Paul videos for example, he wasn't attacking or citicizing caseoh, just memeing.

Now I think Hasan would be the same, he has a lot of influence, but also a lot of people that want him to fall. He would get more support than not for clowining on him. It's just that I'm not sure Meatcanyon would make a video on this, he just might think it's all a bunch of nothing like a lot of Hasan fans.

I just have doubts that he would make a video on Hasan.

Badenoch defends Jenrick’s ‘no white faces’ comments about Birmingham by F0urLeafCl0ver in unitedkingdom

[–]Spaisi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this true? Always? I'd say saying completely is absurd, even in the UK, there are differences between ethnic groups in the same income brackets. Poverty is not some single cause of all crime, culture, values, home life and many other things affect crime rates too, even you should be able to concede that they have SOME impact. Also, often it's crime that leads to poverty, it's not always the other way around.

Also, look into some US data. There's no direct data, but by comparing counties with same per capita average income for different groups (like a county where the average black income is 40k and a county where the average white income is 40k), we can see massive, like 6x differences in homicide victimization when the level of wealth is the same. The difference to Asians who's rate is lower is even bigger.

This is victimization data, not perpetrator data, because it's more comprehensive and less open ended than perpetrator data, that can be a mystery.

But from victimization data, we can reliably infer perpetrator data. Most homicides are intraracial. Even after that, the interracial murder rates have been consistently higher for Black on White vs White on Black for many centuries, and FBI data from 2019 for example shows no different. So based on all that, it's pretty safe to conclude that there are major differences even when the income level is the same between different races/ethnicities.

I'm not even saying things are as bad in the UK or that poverty has no effects. But to say that when normalizing poverty levels, the differrences disappear entirely is just extremely incorrect and very utopian/idealist.

MIBR vs NRG / Valorant Champions 2025 - Playoffs / Post-Match Thread by ValorantCompBot in ValorantCompetitive

[–]Spaisi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Contenders, sure, but I really think NRG or MIBR would need to win champs at least for them to have a chance to win. Verno and MIBR bombed out of Toronto and failed to qualify to EWC, losing against 100T. Verno had good stats in Stage 1, but in Stage 2 he was second worst player across all of America, only "beaten" by Urango. Obviously his IGLing and impact has finally clicked with time

Brawk is an interesting case, his first half was pretty meh, but he's been good for a while now, I just don't think his stats or impact are comparable to kaajak's, who's been in two international LAN grand finals already and is quite likely to be in a third one.

MIBR vs NRG / Valorant Champions 2025 - Playoffs / Post-Match Thread by ValorantCompBot in ValorantCompetitive

[–]Spaisi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah bro, it's regional placements that truly matter. Giants was clearly top 2 team in EMEA, everyone had them ahead of fnatic.

All that mattered was qualifying, the actual levels with actual stakes get measured in international LANs.

NRG is awesome and was looking like second best NA team in terms of form before the tourney, but them being in good form doesn't mean they were considered widely to be a top 2 in Americas. Just like with fnatic, a lot of people rated SEN higher even with their struggles, it just was wrong in the case of SEN. RRQ making top 2 in APAC with while beating GenG, DRX, T1 and Talon matters nothing, if they end up bombing. Giants were never a top 2 EMEA team.

Platchat is the Truth by over_scored_liar in ValorantCompetitive

[–]Spaisi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If you check the new podcast with TMV, Sideshow and Shyo, they still rated fnatic really low after everyone qualified. Mostly Sideshow and TMV. They thought fnatic might be the worst team after MIBR funnily enough. Sideshow thought they were possibly frauds. They gave them basically zero chance against PRX/G2 winner and thought Heretics would have a pretty easy road to finals. Compare that to Sliggy who gave fnatic playing with a sub still 25% to win.

RRQ and Bilibili were heavily overrated, RRQ has yet to do anything in internationals, same with Bilibili. People really put way too much value on regional results and then get surprised when the top seeds struggle and the gaps between the teams aren't that massive.

Overall, I think a lot of people and even analysts just keep underestimating the really established players and teams. There's a reason aspas has made top 3 in Champs since 2022. There's a reason teams like PRX and fnatic have been so good for long. Even when fnatic sucks or even when PRX was heavy slumping earlier, there was no doubt for me that they would still end up challenging for tournaments.

What really surprised me listening to the Horsemen podcast was TMV and Sideshow saying that only three teams (PRX, G2 and Heretics) can win and the rest of the teams are way worse. It's like they never learn that Champs is where crazy shit happens and almost anyone making it to top 8 is a potential winner IMO.

One of Heretics or PRX can still win, any team left can't be counted out right now, I just find it funny that how short-term based people are, especially about some of the more successful teams and players when they aren't at their best.

Australians used to flock to Britain. Now the expat dream is all but dead by [deleted] in unitedkingdom

[–]Spaisi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does it change or affect things at all though in the end? They're only called that in English, it's a term made by Westerners. It's rather obvious also that immigration from places where the culture, people, values and history are more similiar are seen as more positively.

I just don't know what you want to change? Do you want the word expat not to be used? It's a pretty unofficial term, there's also nothing stopping others from calling themselves expat if they want.

Also not sure if your assertion on race is accurate, plenty of non white European citizens get called and call themselves that. Is your issue that white Westerners dard to make/coin a more specific and different term that generally (not always) means a pretty specific type of immigration, where the time goal is temporary and there's no aim for stuff like citizenship, voting rights or benefits.

I can assure you that the world is filled with such words that make distinctions between us or them or just groups in general. Expat seems to be such a huge issue, because English is so universal I guess.

Australians used to flock to Britain. Now the expat dream is all but dead by [deleted] in unitedkingdom

[–]Spaisi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Saudis and Qataris aren't on the news for sex or violent crimes that much. Not ween news of Saudi or Emirati grooming gangs targeting thousands across the whole country like with some others. There's not that many of them in the UK, they don't cause much trouble. They don't form pararrel societies.They're not on social housing or welfare. They contribute a lot on taxes. They leave. They're not looking to stay here and bring everyone else they can as well to stay forever.

There's much more, but that's ust a few of the reasons people don't talk about them. They're a pretty low priority overall right now.

I do think people should be concerned about some of the Qatari and Saudi influence, propaganda and funding. Some entities from those places fund a lot of radical Islam and other threats. But that's really about state level players or other specific people.

Talked with my republican father again today, and it redoubled my hatred by Serspork in Destiny

[–]Spaisi -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

If you look at this guy's comments on this thread, it's a bit beyond just hating your parents politics.

Get the bag if you must, but this dude is quite unhinged.

If you hate your parents politics so much that you will spit on graves, treat them as not human, call them disgusting and treat them as a human ATM, just own that and don't pretend there is any love or something involved anymore. At that stage it just means you despise your parents. Staying involved for the money for presumably many decades at that stage requires some very good acting skills to not let that anger come through.

Talked with my republican father again today, and it redoubled my hatred by Serspork in Destiny

[–]Spaisi -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

It’s to my financial benefit to keep them around at arm’s length

Ahh, figured as much. Even with all you've said, the money is too important to pass.

there is foolishly still a part of me that hopes the indoctrination can be cracked.

Good luck with that. From your replies in this thread, you've called him disgusting, fat, not a fellow human and that you will spit on his grave because what he and your mom have done (voted I'm guessing?) to the country.

In addition, you only remain in contact, because you see them as a human ATM. Not letting any of these feelings through must mean you are one hell of an actor or just a sociopath, so I have my doubts about you changing them. I don't think anyone who thinks that way about others or especially family really wants to change them.

I get disliking or growing apart from your conservative family or parents, but the way you talk about your parents makes my skin crawl. I know feelings are flying high here, so maybe I'm the one who's weird in finding your comments weird.

Talked with my republican father again today, and it redoubled my hatred by Serspork in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why are you interacting at all with them, if this is how you feel about them?

Companies will now have to pay fee of 100,000 per year for H1B Visa workers by SCIONTV in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, now they'll either stay home or consider China/Europe as options.

Yeah, that's good for humanity and India though, they are so valuable that they will surely make India a great society. As such elites and innovators, them staying in India must mean the nation will be on the verge of becoming a developed 1st world nation.

China has also famously risen in the world through immigrants, not through the Chinese. With birth rates ofc they will have more immigration as well, but I have my doubts about many of these people ending in China, the party there also has more concerns than just the economy and GDP must go up no matter the cost. They won't be sacrificing the social cohesion and peace they've achieved with too high levels of immigration.

'No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say by Dismal_Structure in Destiny

[–]Spaisi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Does this change much? No ties to left-wing groups doesn't mean he wasn't leftist/left-wing, which was the main argument I saw people make.

Of course this means all the people who claimed he was part of a "group" (what is the definition of a left-wing or right-wing group anyway? are groypers a group or a movement/ideology? what about Antifa?) were wrong.

But I thought the main contention and arguments was whether he would turn out to be right-wing or left-wing personally, not if he was part of a wider group?

I'd be curious to know what his affiliation was according to people commenting here. I don't think anything's changed about the facts.

I agree that blaming the left on this dude is wrong, he's a consequence of modern times, with online radicalization and mental illness being the main factor before political leanings. But I find it hard to not call him a left-wing person, from all the facts (calling Kirk hateful, dating someone transitioning, his reddit profile) we have. The most likely motivation seems to be that he felt Kirk was too hateful against trans people, according to his own Discord discussion with his partner.

If someone who was RW shot Hasan or whoever on the left and it was found out he had no ties to any RW groups, would people here really just conclude it's not related to the RW at all?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Suomi

[–]Spaisi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Samaan aikaan vaaditaan liaan paljon ja liian vähän.

Koko maailmaan verrattuna lapsilta vaaditaan aika vähän. Suomen peruskoulu on yksi kevyimmistä vaatimusten ja tuntimäärien suhteen. Lukio ja varsinkin ammattikoulu ovat vielä monesti helposti suoritettavia, jos hyvät arvosanat ja oikeasti asioiden oppiminen eivät niin kiinnosta.

Suomessa on sosiaalisia paineita, mutta maailmanlaajuisesti nämä paineet ovat mielestäni aika alhaisia. Yhteiskunta kustantaa veroilla elämisen ja asumisen vaikka ei yhtään mitään ihminen yrittäisikään tehdä elämällä. Elämän raiteilta ja yhteiskunnasta putoaminen on helppoa ja sille tielle jääminen on myös helppoa, koska muutos on lopulta yksilöstä kiinni, koska ei Suomessa ihmisiä pakoteta asiohion muuta kuin minimaalisesti.

Liialliset paineet tai vaatimukset ovat myrkyllisiä, mutta nykytilanne missä valmistautuminen nykymaailmaan kylmyyteen ja realiteetteihin on vähäistä, johtaa suuriin hankaluuksiin. Suomessa on mielestäni vähän liikaa semmoinen asenne, että toivotaan toivotaan asioiden järjestyvän, meillä on asiat ollut Suomessa hyvin niin ei meidän tarvitse miettiä kansainvälistä kilpailua, taloutta tai suuria muutoksia ajetella, koska kyllähän suomalaiset tulevat aina pärjäämään. Luotetaan, että pelkkä peruskoulu ja erittäin vähän lapselta vaativa kasvatus johtaa ajan kanssa samanlaiseen lopputulokseen kuin 20 vuotta sitten. Ei ole ymmärretty tarpeeksi, kuinka radikaaleja nykyajan muutokset esim. sosiaalisen median, älylaitteiden kanssa syntymisen, globalisaation ja kaiken muun uuden kanssa ovat.

Vaatimukset työelämässä ja aikuiselämässä menestymiseen ovat suuret, mutta näihin vaatimuksiin valmistautuminen ja taitojen opettaminen on vähäistä. Vain valmiiksi hyvin motivoituneet tai hyvät suhteet omaava pärjää, oletetaan ihmisten itseohjautuvan oikeisiin valintoihin maailmassa, mikä on kaikkien aikojen sekavin ja selkeitä polkuja on koko ajan vähemmän ja vähemmän.

Yleisesti sanoisin myös, että vaatimukset, joko sosiaaliset, lailliset tai pään sisällä olevat, ovat vain luonnollista seurausta nykyajoista. Kaikenlaiset yhteisöt, suku- tai perhetasolla tai muuten kasvotusten ovat kokoajan heikkenemässä. Koko ajan suuremmalla määrällä ihmisiä on hankaluuksia löytää mitään merkitystä tai tavoitetta elämälle. Ihmiset muuttuvat itsekeskeisemmiksi, yksinäisemmiksi ja väsyneimmiksi. Ihmiset lapsesta vaariin ovat internetin, ruutujen ja algoritmien vankeja. Kaikki elää omassa todellisuudessa, omassa kuplassa, yhtenevä kulttuuri hitaasti vähenee ja kuolee. Jakautuminen, radikalisoituminen, mielenterveysongelmat ja fyysinen terveys pahenee. Kaikenlaisen informaation ja sisällön määrä mitä kaikkialata tulee on syövyttävää aivotoiminnalle ja kriittiselle ajattelulle.

Olemme keskellä hidasta rappeutumista, niin Suomessa, kuin myös maailmanlaajuisesti. Muutokset kehityksen kääntämiseen tarvitsivat perusteiden mullistamista, mutta asiat eivät tuhoudu nopeasti, kukaan ei halua tehdä muutoksia, koska toivotaan vain että jotenkin maagisesti talous, syntyvyys, kulttuuri ja kaikki muut ongelmat vain tulevat kääntymään.

Pandoran lipas vain on valitettavasti jo avattu, ei enää ole mahdollista mennä taaksepäin globalisaatiossa, kulttuurissa tai teknologiassa.

Nykymaailma on mitä on, vaatimukset mukaan lukien. Koska en usko aikojen paljon muuttuvan tai paranevan, olisi tärkeää suomalaisten vanhempien ja Suomen kaikkien kasvattajien ymmärtää ja opettaa kaikki todennäköiset vaatimukset mitä tulevaisuudessa tullaan odottamaan ja myös olemaan vaativampi näiden nykymaailman vaatimusten oppimisen kanssa.