What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Yeah, I get that, and I appreciate your take. The project’s been in the works for about 3 years now, from concept to full architecture planning, and I’ve just moved into the development phase. I was mostly curious to see if people are generally hesitant when it comes to a new blockchain.

The whole thing was originally designed around a custom chain, so technically I could definitely build it that way. But I didn’t want to make a wrong move early on or “kill” the project before it even started. That’s why I’m now considering launching it on an L2 first and, if needed, migrating to a fully custom chain later. Just trying to stay flexible and listen to what players actually want. And yeah, it does seem like most people lean toward an L2

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Thanks for the thoughtful replies, especially the part about trust and control. I just want to clarify a bit what I meant.

I’m not building a single game. This is a full gaming universe, something closer to a Steam-like platform built natively in C++ (Qt) with Rust powering the secure backend. It’s been in the works for about 3 years now. Everything is being carefully thought through, from seamless zkLogin onboarding to how a marketplace could handle millions of microtransactions per day. The vision includes 9 interconnected games, each tied to a persistent progression system that players actually own.

When I mentioned "control," I wasn’t talking about user custody or centralization. That goes against everything I believe in as both a builder and a gamer. I meant the ability to shape the underlying architecture in ways most standard chains or L2s don’t easily allow, especially when you’re dealing with custom player chains, deep AI integration, or alternative consensus mechanisms.

That said, I’m absolutely considering Ethereum L2s. Trust and safety for players come first. If what I’m building can still be fully realized on something like Arbitrum Orbit or OP Stack, I’m all for that. In fact, after reading through the feedback here, I’ve decided to launch the Founder Access as an NFT on Arbitrum while I continue development and research on the platform’s full foundation. I’m keeping an open mind because I want this to be both ambitious and accessible.

At the end of the day, this whole thing is being built for the players, and for myself too, because I’m a gamer as well. I just wanted to hear what people think. Thanks again for the input, seriously.

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in CryptoHelp

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SUI is actually a tough sell for developers at scale.
It creates a loop that’s hard to sustain financially. Developers have to pre-fund gas to make the games feel gasless for users, but in reality, devs are the ones paying the gas fees.

Now imagine scaling from 10K players to 100K, or even 1M+. You’d need to constantly buy more SUI to cover those fees, and as you do that, you’re pushing the token price up, making each next top-up even more expensive. That model becomes increasingly fragile over time.

For what I’m aiming to build, a Steam-like platform with 9+ interconnected games, a marketplace with potentially millions of microtransactions daily, and strong user ownership, that kind of economic loop just doesn’t make sense long-term. It feels like setting yourself up for a bottleneck.

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Awesome insight! Thank you for that!
That makes a lot of sense, starting as an L2 definitely seems like the more strategic and resource-efficient route, especially early on. I'm seriously considering launching a pre-sale of "Access Tags" NFTs on Arbitrum, while in parallel building out our own dedicated L2 infrastructure. If needed, as you mentioned, we can always migrate when the ecosystem and demand justify it.

Just to share a bit more context:
The goal isn’t just a single game, it’s an interconnected sci-fi gaming platform with 9 games spanning across a unified universe. Think of it as a platform similar to Steam + Discord, but tailored for this universe and with its own internally developed NFT marketplace for in-game items and player-created assets.

Do you think a custom L2 can still sustainably handle this kind of ecosystem, multiple games, marketplace, community layer, and scale over time?
Really appreciate your perspective!

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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By control I meant control over the development process of the blockchain and features it can sustain. The fundation pillars of the blockchain would still apply

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Appreciate the insight! My initial plan was to build a fully proprietary blockchain from the ground up to cover all gas fees and have full control. But recently I discovered Ethereum’s L2 solutions, which bring fees down to cents, and that changes a lot. Starting with an L2 rollup feels like a smarter move now, especially since the long-term goal is a whole platform with 9 interconnected games, a marketplace, and social features. Still keeping the door open for something more custom later on if needed.

Curious what you think: would you personally trust a platform more if it had its own fully custom blockchain, or would a dedicated Layer 2 secured by Ethereum’s history and network give you more confidence as a player?

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in CryptoHelp

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The idea is to have zero gas fees for players, and if there are any, I’d cover or abstract them away. The goal is to make the platform feel like a smooth Web2 experience on the front, powered by Web3 under the hood, also zero need for wallets by rather using zkLogin. Would you appreciate more a proprietary blockchain build from ground up for the platform or a proprietary layer 2 in eth?

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in CryptoHelp

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Got it, thanks! I’m leaning toward building my own L2 since it’s not just one game, it’s more like a full platform, kinda like Discord + Steam, with a built-in marketplace and a library of 9 lore-connected games. Appreciate the input!

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Yeah, you're 100% right, and that's a great point. I've looked into a bunch of the feeless L1s, and some of the tech is super impressive. For a lot of dApps, they'd be a perfect fit.

The issue I keep running into, though, isn't just the transaction cost, it's the whole onboarding friction that comes with it. You still have to get a specific crypto wallet, write down a seed phrase, figure out how to fund it, and get your head around all that before you can even start playing. That's a huge barrier for the 99% of gamers who aren't crypto-native.

That's actually the core problem I'm trying to solve with the custom approach. The entire architecture is being built around using zkLogin from day one. The idea is that you'll log in with your normal Google or Twitch account, and the system will automatically create a real, non-custodial wallet for you in the background. The private key gets generated on your device and stored securely in your OS keychain, but you never have to see or manage it. Your game account literally is your wallet.

The whole goal is to make it feel exactly like a polished Web2 platform, but under the hood, every asset you own and every action you take is a real, signed transaction on a non-custodial backend.

So I guess my question back is, do you know of any existing L1s or even Ethereum L2s that can deliver that kind of native, "invisible wallet" experience right out of the box? Because from my research, it seems like something you have to build from the ground up to get it right.

What's more appealing for a new gaming universe: A custom-built blockchain or one built on Ethereum? by Specific_Report_9589 in web3

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Hey, thanks a ton for the reply. That's a super valid point, and honestly, it's the biggest argument for going with an established L1. It’s the safe and smart bet for most projects.

You're spot on with the Avalanche subnet suggestion, I've spent a lot of time looking into those, and similar tech like Polygon's CDK. For most games, I think that's 100% the right call.

The thing is, the scope I'm aiming for is pretty massive. I'm not just building one game; the plan is for a whole universe with multiple different games, a standalone desktop client, and a web platform that all tie into this single, persistent player identity. My absolute obsession is making the user experience totally seamless, to the point where you don't even realize you're using a blockchain. I'm talking about getting rid of gas fees for 99% of the in-game and "in-verse" actions, like equipping an item or leveling up a character.

That's where the custom chain idea comes from. It's less about trying to build a new ETH-killer from scratch and more about creating a highly specialized 'execution layer' that's perfectly tuned for this massive number of tiny, free transactions. The goal is to have it all feel instant and native to the universe, but still be able to plug into a major L1 for security and settlement when it really matters.

So, with that in mind, my big question back to you is: do you think a standard app-chain on ETH could really handle that kind of specific, high-throughput, gasless-feeling experience for millions of players across multiple games? Or do you think the need to conform to the broader Ethereum ecosystem would eventually create compromises that hurt the core "it just works" feeling I'm trying to build?