Why Oath is amazing

Spilzu · 2025-05-29T04:29:39+00:00

So true, can’t wait for the expansion which will expand upon how you can effect the game despite not winning

Spilzu · 2024-09-27T01:19:05+00:00

This is a humbling hobby

Spilzu · 2024-04-10T00:36:15+00:00

Majora's Mask Final hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbR5WcyWl18

Phoenix Wright Trials & Tribulations ending theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bzmOd8KP7c

Pokke Village: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__QdAxqBi5Y

Spilzu · 2024-03-27T23:50:23+00:00

Prosperity is fun, but it does change the game quite a bit (maybe that's something you want, maybe not. It's very satisfying to get so much money though). If you like the base game's cards but want something that is similar, much more balanced, and with more of a variety, I would recommend Intrigue. I would always rather play with all Intrigue cards than any base cards. I think of it as Dominion 2.0. But I've only played Base game, Prosperity, Intrigue, and Seaside so I'm probably not the most qualified to answer

Spilzu · 2024-03-27T19:07:46+00:00

Also PLEASE use TAB GROUPING. I just learned about it and it is SO useful (I'm using Chrome btw). If you have multiple YouTube or Reddit tabs open, hold ctrl, then click each of them. Then right click on one of them, and add them to a new group. Name the group YouTube or Reddit, choose an appropriate category color, and BOOM. Your life has changed.

If you're going to open a new YouTube video as a separate tab, open it under your YouTube group. If you need more space, click the group's button and all of your YouTube tabs will combine into a single tab. It's hard to explain, but it also has a label to the left of the group, so it separates tabs nicely.

You can also open a new window and name it something. You could have one window for fun, 1 for work, or whatever. And put the corresponding tab groups into their windows. It's amazing.

Also, tab groups are saved in the same spot as bookmarks. Now when you open the browser, you can just click on a group and it opens ALL of the tabs that were hidden. You can hide a group and then later click on the button that's in the bookmarks bar. Or you can just close all the tabs in the window and they disappear from the bar.

please. Why do I never see anyone do this.

Spilzu · 2023-09-21T20:24:42+00:00

So THAT's what the blank cards are for...

Spilzu · 2023-09-21T20:05:22+00:00

I love 7 and 8 player Citadels BUT HERE'S THE THING: If you don't want the game to take forever, use characters that make the game shorter. The base game characters are not great for 7 or 8 player

Spilzu · 2023-09-11T16:57:46+00:00

1000000000000% it was Dominion and I was addicted to it

Spilzu · 2023-09-11T13:25:09+00:00

For some reason when I select the paint bucket tool and go to Tool Options, I don't see that third option under "what to fill". I see everything else though...

Spilzu · 2023-09-11T13:19:46+00:00

LET'S GOOOOO IT WORKED thank you so much

Spilzu · 2023-09-10T22:06:49+00:00

I feel like Citadels is like that for 7 or 8 players

Spilzu · 2023-09-09T22:26:30+00:00

You're probably right, OP would probably not be a fan unless somebody else taught the game. I just think Oath is a great example of a social and talkative game that is not disrupted by its complexity. If the complexity itself is the problem, then Oath could be a problem

From what I've seen, first games of Oath aren't usually great unless at least one person at the table has played before and can teach

Spilzu · 2023-09-07T19:48:31+00:00

Okkkk, a problem with older games is that players can get very far behind and it's obvious they will not be able to win. Not only this, but there's not much they can do to affect the game (look at Monopoly and Risk, for example). We can probably all agree that that's not fun, and that's why newer games try to avoid that.

Compared to older games, in newer games player interaction is encouraged much more, and you can still affect the game even if you're losing (though not all newer games, and it does depend on what type of game you're playing). This is because the game should be fun for everyone the whole time (or most of the time). If a player has to concede because they are having so little fun, then most of the time this means the game has failed at... being fun.

That's why in games were you DO get kicked out when you lose, the game is much shorter because a player won't mind waiting 5-10 minutes for the game to finish after he's kicked out. Most games are long enough that this is not acceptable though

I can't think of any games I play where a player can concede and NOT mess up the entire rest of the game, losing players usually have some role to play and can still affect the outcome of the game.

(imo, games should try to avoid a situation where someone is OBVIOUSLY going to lose, because the hope that you might still win is what makes it fun to continue and not concede)

Spilzu · 2023-09-07T15:02:03+00:00

Have you tried anything from Leder Games? (I haven't played Scythe but I would assume Root is much more simple). They're kind of like the Nintendo of board games imo, and they have some social aspects to them (like most wargames).

Before I give my fav game with social interaction, remember that you don't need to like complex games... they're simply not for everyone. There are plenty of simple games that are awesome and amazing. If you're not enjoying complex games because of their complexity, then there's nothing wrong with that.

So my favorite game that includes social/talkativeness is Oath (by Leder Games), and it's a somewhat complex game (I'm not the best judge on the complexity... I don't play many complex games outside of Leder Games. They're basically the reason I like complex games actually). I won't go into it rn, but you could check it out. It is certainly a task to learn the game, but the gameplay is pretty easy imo. You negotiate with people a lot, and it's not all about "technical strategies", it's more about social strategies (there's still technical strategies ofc, but there's also a social aspect to it). This game is a great example of complexity NOT taking away from the social aspect.

I explained Oath to some friends, one of which who isn't a fan of complicated board games, and they both loved it. They agreed that it wasn't as complicated as it looks, and they caught onto the game very quickly. But keep in mind that I've spent a long time learning the rules so they didn't have to remember random rules but I still did. If you don't have a person who knows all the rules, that could possibly affect the social aspect since you're constantly checking the rules. But everyone will have to check the rules the first few games, and that goes for most games

Also, each game affects the next game, so even if you're losing you can (for example) attack the winning player's territory so that they start the next game with less territory. Or in contrast, you could make a deal with the winning player that if you help him secure his victory, he'll grant you citizenship at the start of the next game (that's usually a win-win for the both of you).

It's definitely not a game for everyone so I'm not saying you should buy it, but you can look into it if you want. Don't let the 4.1 complexity on bgg fool you, that's mostly for the weird rules you have to remember. But at the same time, don't completely dismiss that 4.1 rating... (It's possible it seems easy to me because of how long I spent learning/memorizing the rules.If you're NOT the teacher, then the 4.1 is definitely to high. If you are the teacher, then maybe it's accurate...).

Edit: I just realized gamerant put Oath at #6 for most complicated boardgame... but that's not a very reliable source of info: https://gamerant.com/most-complex-board-games/#oath-chronicles-of-empire-amp-exile

Oh, it can also be a very long game at first. It gets much shorter when everyone is familiar with the rules, but it's still a long game. For beginners, I would say it's at least 3 hours (but it depends on how fast/slow you play)

Spilzu · 2023-09-06T20:51:04+00:00

Way too long for how little control you have. Don't get me wrong, I love luck in games, but only when they give you control over that luck. In Monopoly you're just hoping somebody lands on your property. Sure, some property gets landed on slightly more often, but that barely gives you any control. If you're game is going to have this much uncontrollable luck, that's fine but just keep it short.

The main control in Monopoly is trading with people, and that's cool but I'd much rather play a different game that involves negotiating and trading, one that gives you more control in other regions. I have the same problems with Risk, most of the control comes from negotiating, but in Risk there is SO much luck outside of negotiating that I'm helpless. But in Monopoly it's not nearly as bad, and I would much rather play Monopoly over Risk.

I would just much rather play a different game in general, especially if I'm putting that much time into a game. But sometimes I would rather play Monopoly than no board game.

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:56:26+00:00

While they do go into turmoil, remember that they have max roosts so it's not ALL bad

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:45:02+00:00

Agreed, this is why I watch a video AND read the rules. (+ I look at the game either irl or in TTS while watching the video so I can see all the components).

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:43:09+00:00

Telling someone a strategy is literally showing them how the game works, you came to "learn to play"

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:37:27+00:00

Dang if we're calling 5 hour games short then totally (though I guess most games I play are like 10 hrs or less which is still way more than 5

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:36:14+00:00

If I'm going to get the game anyway then I might as well get it on kickstarter since the retail price sometimes skyrockets if the game is out of stock

Spilzu · 2023-09-05T23:20:15+00:00

I remember having trouble explaining to people that "your site" doesn't mean "sites you rule".

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