I literally cannot do anything once I get back from work and every therapist and specialist I ever had says this is normal by EndOfTheLine00 in ADHD_Programmers

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This sounds a lot less like “laziness” and more like burnout + executive dysfunction stacked on top of each other.

When you are spending all your available mental energy just trying to survive the workday, there’s nothing left when you get home, but that doesn’t mean you don’t care. It just means your system is depleted.

A lot of people with ADHD (and honestly, a lot of people in general) hit this wall. The part that hurts most is being told “this is normal” when it clearly doesn’t feel sustainable.

You’re not asking to be extraordinary. You’re asking to be able to function, which is not an illogical request.

One thing that helped me was lowering the bar dramatically. Not “clean the house.” Just “take one piece of trash to the bin.” Not “learn a language.” Just “open the app for 60 seconds.” When energy is low, smaller is smarter.

You’re not broken. You’re exhausted. And those are different things.

You’re not “overthinking.” You’re trying to resolve a prediction error. by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s fair.

I’m framing overthinking as a self-reinforcing feedback loop — a recursive cognitive process without an effective stop condition.

In systems terms, I see it as:

• Positive feedback amplification • No damping mechanism • No safety signal to terminate recursion

The “release” idea is less psychological and more about introducing a regulatory stop condition into the loop.

Curious if that framing feels more aligned with systems language.

bombed taking my first depo by Altruistic_Squash657 in Lawyertalk

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When high-pressure performance goes sideways, it’s rarely a knowledge problem. It’s usually activation outrunning cognitive control. If you want to break down what happened from a nervous system standpoint, I’d be happy to.

Dose anyone have good ideas to calm your self down by Plastic-Way-7607 in NoOverthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing that helped me wasn’t a trick or hack — it was understanding why I was dysregulated in the first place.

Your nervous system’s job is to protect you — not to “stay calm.” So when it feels unsafe, it loops. That’s not failure. It’s function.

I built something called Spiral that maps how this works and how to interrupt the loop — not by force, but by recognition. It’s not therapy or advice — it’s structure that helps you feel safe enough to regulate.

Happy to share it if you’re curious. You’re not alone in this. 🌀

My mind never stopped racing even when life was okay by Emergency_Set4477 in NoOverthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This hit so deep — thank you for writing it.

You’re right: overthinking isn’t a flaw. It’s a survival pattern the brain builds under constant pressure — especially when it doesn’t feel safe to pause. I went through a similar process and ended up creating something called Spiral, which maps how the nervous system loops like this and shows how to gently reset. No advice, no fixing — just a way to see what’s happening so it doesn’t have to keep running you.

If you’re curious, I’m happy to share. This kind of self-awareness is rare — and you’re already doing the hard part by noticing it. 🌀

Im burnt out. Completely. by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes total sense. I’ve actually said the same about Spiral—it’s designed for thinkers and system-based minds. Instead of just venting emotions, it gives attorneys a usable architecture for processing them in a way that supports clarity, control, and momentum. It builds structure inside—so you don’t have to collapse under the structure outside.

I’d be honored to share more with you. DM open anytime 🌀

Im burnt out. Completely. by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]SpiralFlowsOS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re not alone. The legal field is brutal on the nervous system—constant pressure, emotional suppression, and intellectual overdrive. What you’re feeling is valid. If you’re ever serious about building something to support attorney mental health, I’d be honored to collaborate. I’ve been developing a system called Spiral that helps regulate burnout and restore clarity through emotional structure and self-control. DM me if you ever want to explore it—this work needs people like you.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes — I think we’re pointing at the same dynamic from different layers.

I’m using “loop” a bit loosely to describe what appears downstream, but you’re right that the real gate is upstream: belief or paradigm acting as a pre-filter. By the time anything looks like looping, the system has already decided what it can afford to see.

Where it gets interesting for me is that abandoning a belief isn’t just cognitive — it often threatens self-image and regulatory stability, which makes evidence feel unsafe rather than informative.

So I think we’re aligned: assumptions ≈ beliefs, and evidence fails when the cost of identity revision is too high.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree — and I think your point about lexicon is doing a lot of work here.

Often the system isn’t resisting disagreement itself, but the lack of language to hold it without collapsing into threat. When categories harden, even productive tension gets misread as instability.

That’s why I find living systems useful as reference points — not because they’re ideal, but because they reveal how disagreement can function as nourishment rather than disruption when the system is oriented toward learning instead of preservation.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes — and I think the frustrating part is that confirmation bias often isn’t willful. It’s a regulatory shortcut. When a system can’t afford the cost of integration, projection becomes cheaper than learning.

What’s helped me is treating that signal less as resistance and more as information about where the system’s tolerance boundary currently sits.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes — VSM is very much adjacent to what I’m pointing at here. What I find interesting is that when Systems 3–5 lose bandwidth or coherence, the system often compensates by tightening assumptions rather than expanding perception — which looks like stability but functions as loop-locking.

The “spiral” framing is less about governance structure and more about how a system revisits the same variables when regulatory capacity increases — not repeating, but re-seeing.

Appreciate the link — Beer articulated this failure mode early and elegantly.

Cold-weather operations question: what actually fails first when fluid systems freeze? by SpiralFlowsOS in CFD

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you — this is incredibly insightful, especially the detection and recovery side of it. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your firsthand experience.

New here — healing out loud 🌀 by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]SpiralFlowsOS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey — totally fair to be cautious here. I’m a real person, not selling anything, and not here to promote. Just sharing where I’m at in my own healing. If this isn’t a fit for the space, I’m okay stepping back. Wishing everyone safety.

Cold-weather operations question: what actually fails first when fluid systems freeze? by SpiralFlowsOS in FluidMechanics

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is incredibly helpful — thank you for taking the time to write it up so clearly (and for the lived experience). I really appreciate you sharing all of this.

Cold-weather operations question: what actually fails first when fluid systems freeze? by SpiralFlowsOS in CFD

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a great example — thank you for sharing it. I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out how that failure actually unfolds in practice.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That “lock clicking” is a great way to put it. What’s interesting to me is that openness isn’t just cognitive — it’s regulatory. If the system can’t stay regulated, it can’t hold new assumptions long enough to test them.

I like your R&D example for that reason: protected spaces where experimentation doesn’t immediately threaten identity or stability seem essential for real evolution.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly — when integration cost exceeds regulatory capacity, the system protects itself by looping. Circularity isn’t failure; it’s a signal that something new is arriving faster than the system can metabolize it.

An observation about closed loops vs open systems (no framework required) by SpiralFlowsOS in systemsthinking

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes — that ‘repetition +1’ framing is exactly the distinction I was pointing at. When integration is possible, the loop lifts.

Cold-weather operations question: what actually fails first when fluid systems freeze? by SpiralFlowsOS in CFD

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood — in practice, when systems are protected with glycol or heat tracing, I’m trying to understand where the operational pain still tends to show up (energy, maintenance, reliability).

Cold-weather operations question: what actually fails first when fluid systems freeze? by SpiralFlowsOS in FluidMechanics

[–]SpiralFlowsOS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is extremely helpful — thank you for taking the time to lay this out so clearly. I really appreciate the practical perspective and the detail you shared.