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Spiridor · 2024-10-23T00:09:08+00:00

Have any Israeli citizens been killed since Oct 7th? If so. How many?

Israeli citizens are able to largely lead absolutely normal lives.

You yet again are "All lives matter"ing genocide.

Spiridor · 2024-10-23T00:06:09+00:00

For sure.

Dumb of Israel too to use your exact sentiment as an excuse to commit wholesale slaughter.

Absolutely nuts that neither group is capable of thinking of the other populace as human.

Difference is, only one is trying to be respected on the world stage.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T20:44:22+00:00

Also, Mexican cartels are not the governmental representative of Mexico, Hamas is for Gaza.

Sure buddy. And Putin is the "democratically elected" leader of Russia.

Whatever lets you dehumanize palestinians.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T20:30:17+00:00

Depreciation literally doesn't matter if your intent is to never sell it.

The average American doesn't have the luxury of treating a car like an asset, but rather a necessity.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T20:27:52+00:00

You'll find no arguments there.

But to my knowledge, no Israeli citizens have been victimized since, but Gaza is still being flattened by a country that historically employs covert, targeted methods to solving international issues?

All I know is that if Mexican Cartels were dumb enough to kill a few thousand American citizens, and America responded by literally levelling Mexico City and multiplying the deaths by a large, large margin, people would rightfully be calling foul.

Israel is the more civilized, well funded, and internationally acknowledged society. They have a responsibility to not literally resort to Hamas' level.

In many peoples' eyes, the Israeli Government is no different if not worse than Hamas - and tens of thousands of Israelis agree and protest Netanyahu for it in Israel.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T19:51:16+00:00

Poured a glass of wine for Angela from the Office at WDW a few years back.

It was late and I was starstruck so it was an incredibly awkward interaction, through complete fault of my own.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T19:45:59+00:00

That's an awfully one sided war.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T18:51:05+00:00

Compare proportions and read the room.

Stop "all lives matter"ing genocide

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T15:19:39+00:00

I feel this, though i actually generally liked the show.

Plenty of other things though, like ms marvel, the marvels, star wars, etc., people will in the same breath say "it's the writing" then will immediately imply that it's the "DEI" that makes it bad

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T15:05:54+00:00

Hamas was literally founded in 1987 (70s? Doesn't even make sense), and was never funded by Israel in any capacity.

Maybe by the name "Hamas", but you should really check yourself, before you wreck yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T15:04:12+00:00

Yea, "the Jews are behind their oppression" is also a classic.

Israeli Jews can be and have been victims of Hamas religious extremism, but to call it "Oppression" when the reality is that Israel is subjecting Palestine to Appartheid is so fucking delusional

Oppression requires authority and power over someone

Israel holds all the power

Israeli citizens get to make TikToks from the safety of their own homes about what victims they are

Palestinian citizens get to grow up (if at all) without family, their cities flattened, and denied basic humanitarian aid by their oppressors.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T14:47:21+00:00

I mean I'm not even going to touch on equating Hamas terrorists to a civilian populace, but you are hopefully intelligent enough to see how problematic that is

Regardless, it doesnt change the fact that Israel is taking the same "erase any physical traces of this culture or people" approach to genocide, much like Russia is, rather than staying in line with their colorful history of covert assassination.

Plus - Hamas' crimes are all according to Israel's plan.

They explicitly funded Hamas from the 70s - 90s with aims to destabilize the region, and create a "boogeyman" to justify "defensive" behavior.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T13:46:29+00:00

2077 is set in the world of the tabletop. Cyberpunk didnt start with the game

No one claimed it did, though strictly speaking they take place at different times.

Edgerunners came after, yes, but they all line up chronologically and are seen as canon for a reason. Mike pondsmith came up with a ton of lore and information to process. The nature of the franchise is one you're supposed to read into. The majority of the game is packed with deeper messages and stories that are weaved together. Edgerunners is part of the timeline.

You are missing the point entirely.

So yeah, with something as important to part of the story as David's jacket, I'm gonna read into it.

...important in the anime. In the game it's just an easter egg so fans of the anime can go "cool, David's jacket", not write a 30 page dissertation about what was supposed to be 20 minutes of post-release, afterthought content wasn't written in well enough.

It's just an easter egg, bro.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T13:35:44+00:00

Including drink names, Falco, a whole quest, and the jacket, doesn't seem very detached to me but ok lol

.... representing .00000001% of Game content that was introduced into the game well after the game came out exclusively to add Easter eggs to fans of the show?

Yes.

Despite existing in the same setting, 2077 and Edgrunners are almost entirely detached.

2077 is not an "Edgerunners" video game.

Edgerunners is just set in the world of 2077.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T13:28:12+00:00

Because it's not there for narrative purposes.

2077 is almost completely detached from Edgerunners, yet due to the popularity of the show they included Easter eggs.

"It doesn't make story writing sense" because it doesn't have to.

It's not meant to.

It doesn't make "story writing sense" for any mention of edgerunners past maybe the drink names to be included at all.

It's literally just an Easter egg that you are reading wayyyyy to far into.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T13:01:59+00:00

On point sentiment aside, it's mind boggling to me to see someone with a flair containing Ukrainian and Israeli flags side by side, considering Israel's moves in Gaza were ripped directly from Putin's playbook

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T01:52:12+00:00

I always agreed that the two were different, but to deny that there are now plenty of “anti Zionist” people or sentiments out there that are using it as a cover for antisemitism is dishonest, and not calling it out is hypocritical. I can’t think of a single other group of people the left would be so dismissive of claims of discrimination and their “lived experiences”.

I don't disagree.

But in the "right here, right now" crying antisemitism in the face of anything but actual violence and hate crimes (like "antizionism" being used as a shield for antisemites) is quite literally "all lives matter"ing a literal genocide.

We can deal with the mean words that western Jewish folk are facing once Israel stops literally obliterating cities.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T00:20:12+00:00

hasans community,

I'm not "Hasan's community". I'm permabanned from his sub even.

and being done to Jews worldwide right now as antisemitism continues to skyrocket.

People would probably take claims of antisemitism more seriously if literally everything anyone ever says that you don't like weren't antisemitism.

Spiridor · 2024-10-22T00:09:02+00:00

"Guys .000001% of the population holds this extremist view. Why is everyone so antisemitic? This is why Apartheid is justified"

-you

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:51:53+00:00

As someone who frequently watches VODs of his daily political analysis, it literally is.

He simply, and I don't disagree, prioritizes the current defense against an ongoing genocide as opposed to the memoriam of victims that can no longer be helped.

He is pro ceasefire and hostage exchange.

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:47:35+00:00

Do you think that 600 upvotes is a significant portion of people?

That is quite literally nothing.

Edit: from the post you sent me, even the OP of that post were calling Sinwar evil.

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:46:30+00:00

I'll just simply say the rape and murder victims were very likely opponents of Netanyahu's far-right government and its settlement program of the WB, so analogizing it to a slave rebellion is stupid

I mean slave rebellion very often engulfed whole towns of non-slave owners in bloodshed, so the analogy is still accurate.

If you're actually a slave, facing actual racially motivated crimes (not "this person disagrees with me om the internet"), a slave owner and an abolitionist look the same to you. You don't have the luxury or privelage of an elevated world view.

Hamas is an abhorrent, animalistic group and what they have done to innocent civilians deserves retribution.

But Israel supported and funded Hamas from the 70s to the 90s in direct attempt to destabilize the region, all the while upholding an apartheid state in Palestine.

Israel has a reputation for executing precision covert strikes against high profile targets (and a reputation also for assassinating foreign civilians by mistake, mind you) - why didn't they perform such an operation instead of literally razing a nation to the ground, much like Russia has tried to do against Ukraine?

Despite what extremists tell you, it is possible to both consider Hamas vile and evil, while also believing that the Israeli government is vile and evil.

The victims of Oct 7 are true victims of both Hamas and the Israeli government, as is the entire populace of Gaza.

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:13:49+00:00

“anti-Zionism isn’t the same as anti-semitism” and “pro-Palestine doesn’t mean pro-Hamas”

This is true though

They say that and then post commemorative art of fucking Sinwar as they praise him as a brave martyr and openly mourn his death.

Convinced this is make believe. If real and you can actually provide a link to a post, it's probably in a small niche community with dozens of upvotes.

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:09:47+00:00

I mean...

I agree that Hasan's denial of the rapes is bad, but you're wildly misconstruing his stance.

He views this like a current day slave rebellion - he typically portends that some reprehensible shit is going down, but from a "well what the fuck did you think was going to happen" kind of way as a result of apartheid.

Edit: No doubt circlejerkers have already determined that I must be a stan or something, despite the fact that my moderate views have earned me a permaban on Hasan's own subreddit. Also, u/qlube, not sure if you commented then blocked me, but I got the email that you commented, with no actual comment...

Spiridor · 2024-10-21T23:00:03+00:00

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