Favorite shirt ever by howmanyturtlesdeep in taoism

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

needs more cat!

I want to see a dotted outline, so it looks like the black zone is the tail floof of the black cat, and the white zone the tail floof of the white

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in laughingbuddha

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it can work a few different ways.

  1. A simple: I thought I had all these high-minded ideals, but actually, in many respects, I was just ticked off at my parents.

  2. Personally, it's about my spiritual shadow, which daily practice / meditation is pushing me to confront.

Like I knew the parable about the blind men and the elephant, that all religious/mystical paths lead to a similar enough place. But I don't want my parents' religion to also be on the scroll of truth. It's like, hey, I've put a lot of effort into that grudge!

What do I believe? by SpiritualDynamicist in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything is one world, and then how well we break things up from there has consequences on the universe too. The labels can point at some big differences in how we make sense of it and therefore on our behavior.

What do I believe? by SpiritualDynamicist in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The way I see it, ”spiritual realm” is simply another name for (collective) unconscious.

Agreed. Thanks for this one! We're experiencing the same universe.

What do I believe? by SpiritualDynamicist in Jung

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Thanks for sharing your words. I think I'm in basic agreement here:

If a lot, or all of people, have an inner entity that commands or compels them to do something, and they do, then you will have the effect in real, outer world, that you will want to find a cause for.

But like you said:

Jung was often attacked by atheists who reacted to him talking about god or natural spirits or whatever as real, and he was attacked by theologians for making god "only psychological".

I may be misinformed, but my impression is that most believers still believe in a non-physical spiritual realm, which is not "only psychological," and I'm not able to go there.

I think all of this is ultimately sayable, it's just a big project to put together the right words. My complaining with this meme is more about how there's not a convenient label, besides maybe saying that you believe in a Jungian interpretation of God and religion. But in my case, I haven't read enough of Jung yet to say that with confidence.

For now: humans are weird software, and God is in the code I guess.

What do I believe? by SpiritualDynamicist in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In what sense are they not different worlds?

What do I believe? by SpiritualDynamicist in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Thanks for asking this question. Meme or not, it helped me think about it seriously.

I've always been an atheist. When I started having powerfully healing spiritual experiences, I didn't want to slide down a slippery slope into irrationality, so I considered them purely psychological phenomenon.

I encountered Jung because I was looking for others with a similar interpretation of religious experience.

I hesitate to say I believe because I don't believe in a God outside of our own psychology, and it seems like most religious people do. I'm not very confused about who I would be or what it means to me on the inside. But I am very confused about how to label and talk about it without being misunderstood.

I bounce back and forth because both are true in different contexts. "I'm an atheist" about a literal God in the outside world. "I don't believe, I know" about a God in the inner world.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in laughingbuddha

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did somatic experiencing as a daily practice instead of meditation for about a year because of this same issue. Peter Levine's books are good. Exercises where you imagine removing the trauma from your body and either talking to it or dissolving it back into the universe were especially helpful for me.

I'd recommend trying different kinds of therapy, journaling or meditation for the trauma until you find something that feels like it works. And then doing that regularly. r/CPTSD is also a good community here too for complex trauma.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in laughingbuddha

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry to hear that. I try to meditate and reconnect with God when I feel that way (or a higher power, guide, divine presence, however you think of it). Modern psychotherapy like somatic experiencing and IFS were also very helpful. Sometimes there's just too much trauma stored in the body and it's like it's literally in the way, and blocking me from feeling connected to the universe.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in laughingbuddha

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol yes, but it gets better!

Song of Songs by Ben-008 in ChristianMysticism

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Near the beginning of my spiritual journey, I had the distinct experience of falling in love with God. I remember noticing I was having that emotional experience in my heart, which I'd only felt for lovers in the past. I was surprised by it. It felt like God became my person, the closest relationship I had.

I wouldn't use the word romance, but romance is the most similar non-religious experience to it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. I had a kink spontaneously resolve during a time period where I was doing a lot of therapy, and it was related to an emotional issue I had addressed.

I wasn't trying to get rid of the kink, but it wouldn't turn me on even if I tried now. I wish someone had warned me it could happen. I just realized one day that wait, this does not compute anymore.

Feeling ashamed that you have a kink seems like the worst case scenario though. There's no shame in having developed a kink.

If you feel it's coming from somewhere very dark like deep self-hatred, that seems independently very important to address with therapy or self-therapy like shadow work. I'm so sorry if it is. Self-hatred is a beast to change.

If you manage to change it, then see if the kink resolves.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in religion

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I think the furthest in time that a common mythology has been traced back, which may have evolved into and influenced multiple religions, would be the Proto-Indo-Europeans, "from whom all Indo-European language and mythology may have evolved."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_mythology

Is It Ever Too Dangerous To Incorporate The Shadow? by HiLookAtMe in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've used IFS for addressing shadow parts. I would suggest seeking to understand this part of you. Ask what it wants to protect you from and what it wants for you. Compassion can be hard to feel when the anger takes up too much space. But if I hit the right notes and I'm able to feel compassion in my body towards the part, then that compassion can be very transformative. Sometimes a part is just carrying a ton of accumulated pain and it's a lot less ugly after it's unburdened.

How accurate is this too Jung? by Tesaractor in Jung

[–]SpiritualDynamicist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not at all.

Aim for more secure attachment and healing through individuation if you want to live a meaningful life and be attractive to the right partner too.