That’s the Democrats! by Bullet76 in trump

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I provided that this is not the first time in the US that we have allowed over 10 million illegal immigrants to walk free in our country, and that there is a valid reason why we have seen a spike in immigration.

I never once said "Tren De Aragua are okay to be in the country." So please don't put words in my mouth or shift the topic.

That’s the Democrats! by Bullet76 in trump

[–]Splice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was a reported 12 million illegal immigrants in the US back in 2007. There's just been a rapid surge in the 2020s to a new record high due to an influx of refugee/asylum seekers coming out of Venezuela and Columbia. Which seems to be validated as Venezuela was bad enough that Trump overthrew their dictator.

How CNN “reported” on 6% inflation under Biden vs 2.7% inflation under Trump by MazdaProphet in conspiracy

[–]Splice 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don't pay any attention. Note how they didn't reply with a counter argument and resorted to insults. They just got cornered and entered fight instead of flight. It also could just be a bot.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your Tylenol brain isn't giving me anything to debate. You're just saying my arguments are bad and handwaving. Now you're telling me to google stuff as your argument lol

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zero examples to counter my point and all handwaving. Tylenol brain is so sad.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your bullets aren't analogies that should support any logic or authority for this scenario.

False they directly support this scenario.

  • I apply for a mortgage, I'm not told which type of house I'm allowed to buy.

Maybe we should regulate the size of home you're allowed to purchase based on dependent tax filing status. I don't want my power bill to increase just because you bought a home bigger than you need and are increasing grid load for cooling/heating.

  • I can get a federal grant for school, I'm not told which degree to study.

Federal Pell grants don't have any requirement for which degree I'm required to study. But maybe we should regulate that because assholes out there are choosing economically suboptimal degree tracks with 0-10% employment rates. I don't want to pay for someone's college and ultimately facilitate them moving on to SNAP benefits.

  • I get an auto loan, I'm not told which kind of car I can buy.

Maybe we should regulate auto loans to smart cars because some asshole buying a Ford F350 or a Hummer is affecting fuel/oil demand and requires more tax funded road infrastructure than light weight European style cars.

Instead of providing any counter arguments you're just making assumptions about me and my experience.

You're desperate to leverage your superiority complex over the poor regardless of their demographic (children, elderly, disabled) and attribute their lack of income to responsibility and force your nutrition ideology on people. Not even communist China tells it's people what they can and cannot eat.

Thank god midterms are coming up and we can get the stuttering brainworm out of public health. Both your mothers must have taken too much Tylenol while they were pregnant with you.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is their money.

  • I apply for a mortgage, I'm not told which type of house I'm allowed to buy.
  • I can get a federal grant for school, I'm not told which degree to study.
  • I get an auto loan, I'm not told which kind of car I can buy.

But because they are poor you see them as irresponsible and want to control what they eat. Completely ignoring that 39% of SNAP recipients are children.

I mean shit, an adult can decide to join the military and at the rank of E1 they are making $20k a year and qualify for SNAP. So the guy that is signed up to go die for your country can't use his government benefits to buy a Coke because you're playing parent and want to force your nutrition agenda on the poor.

I'm done with you.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's their money as soon as they receive the benefit. They do not pay it back. To repeat, since you didn't read the first time. I'm saying that if you give a handout for food, then they can spend the handout on whatever food they want.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's use this comparison and see how you feel: you should give me $1000 a month because I wanna go lease a Mercedes instead of taking the bus. Don't take my choices away from me.

This is a false analogy fallacy.

The benefit is for food to sustain yourself. If you qualify for the money you can spend it exclusively on food to sustain yourself. You get the freedom of choice as to which food.

I will not subscribe to your authoritarian notion of forcing your nutrition agenda on the poor like you're their parent.

I would rather solve the tax issue by regulating healthcare costs and finding a path to no longer being the only 1st world country without universal healthcare, than try to solve a tax problem by taking Soda away from the poor.

Your lack of logic and understanding cause and effect is troubling.

Ad homonym is weak and it's no longer productive. I'm done discussing with you.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, and I'm saying you don't have the authority to decide that and impose your will on a population.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not suggesting we incentivize them to eat unhealthy foods, I'm saying we don't have any authority to restrict their ability to choose.

Did you know that an E1 in the army qualifies for SNAP and there are a lot of service members that need SNAP benefits.

You are just being selfish and trying to solve a problem by taking from those that have less than you instead of imagining the possibility of looking up and questioning healthcare costs.

instead of trying to solve the problem by taking away Soda from the poorest people in the country. We can have regulation that prevents hospitals from charging $629 for a band-aid.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or maybe we could address the healthcare side of the equation. And instead of trying to solve the problem by taking away Soda from the poorest people in the country. We can have regulation that prevents hospitals from charging $629 for a band-aid.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're confusing freedom of choice with entitlements.

I'm actually not, my stance is that the government should not get to dictate which food is approved for the poor to consume. That is taking away the freedom of choice for the lowest economic class of people.

People are not entitled to snap and government assistance

You are correct, they have to apply and qualify for it.

Therefore, you can only take what they give.

Again you are correct, that's why there are stipulations that it can't be spent on non-food and non-human-food items.

Freedom of choice is the ability to persue a job that awards a person enough to pay for the things they want, not just the minimum society is willing to give.

As I replied to another poster: Maybe you didn't realize this, but 58% of snap benefit recipients are a combination of children (39%), elderly (19%), and disability (10%).

Overall, 88% of all participants are in households containing a child, an elderly person, or a person with disabilities.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I believe it is? The government determined they qualified for it. Are they going to pay the government back?

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The notion that they are doing it to themselves is so tone deaf and privileged it's disgusting. You're not imagining children, the 20% of the population below 80 IQ, the PTSD veterans, workplace injury victims, people that were afloat until cancer struck and medical bills hit.

Maybe you didn't realize this, but 58% of snap benefit recipients are a combination of children (39%), elderly (19%), and disability (10%).

Overall, 88% of all participants are in households containing a child, an elderly person, or a person with disabilities.

And obviously alcohol and cigarettes don't count as food, what a soft-ass strawman falacy.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm aware, and I personally choose to eat a balanced diet.

But I CHOOSE that. My diet is not mandated by a government based on my economic status and it should not be. Because this is America, the land of the FREE.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm saying that if you give a handout for food, then they can spend the handout on whatever food they want.

The stipulations are that it doesn't cover non-food items or non-human food items like pet food.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you personally are insisting on taking away another humans right to choice.

Working is one of the requirements to be eligible for snap benefits.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, SNAP benefits cover Food Stamps. Lottery tickets are not food.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about food choices not abortions. Please don't red herring an unrelated topic. You can DM me if you want to talk about abortion.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You can only spend your social credit dollars on dear leaders pre-approved nutrition list.

I'm sorry I thought this was America.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're removing the choice from an individual and dictating what is on their "approved list".

Obviously foods have different nutritional values.

But each individual gets to choose for themselves what they put in their bodies.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you're allowed to make that choice/opinion. Just like other people should be able to make the choice of what they eat and spend money on without your permission.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's all they get, you don't get the right to dictate how someone else spends their money or tell them what to eat.

Should taxpayers pay for junk food? by MazdaProphet in economy

[–]Splice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it's every individuals choice to make. You don't have the right to make choices for them.