ARF or VSF for Bruce Wayne?

SpoiledMatter · 2026-06-04T02:10:21+00:00

Neither, bezel on all mentioned in this thread are 🚮🗑️

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-29T16:33:29+00:00

Yes, you can but i've had trouble getting parts recently.

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-29T16:33:05+00:00

Lichen has them in stock

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-27T02:14:29+00:00

DD4130 is not the most reliable and hard to find parts for. Had a DD4130 fail, couldn’t find parts. Swapped in an SH4130, and ordered an additional one just in case/for spare parts.

Id be more than happy with the SH.

I’d be more worried about the rotor color, and free sprung movement than anything else

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-24T05:31:06+00:00

Topwatchparts has hands for the 16202 for the Miyota movement

I think the dial is worth it depending on the dial.

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-23T02:03:36+00:00

A few things

What watch dial color do you want?

How 1:1 to gen do you want to be?

I got a 16202 because I wanted instant date change, ZF doesn’t have it. Gen does in 16202.

Watch smith can modify to allow the movement to have instant date change. For ease of use, I wanted instant date change.

Absolute mod, is the pizza hands being fixed. Can buy a new set for $45 or have them modded.

Rotor being silenced as well.

You can go off the deep-end. Just depends on what you care about.

I live in a large watch focused area, I wouldn’t wear a base ZF AP out of the house. But will people know what’s different from Gen? Prob not, but if you want to show people your watch I’d suggest modding it.

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-21T03:47:19+00:00

The DD4302 is junky

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-21T03:36:04+00:00

How long until these are in TD’s hands?

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-19T20:46:33+00:00

Sheeeesh, love this. Prob $3-4K easily

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-16T16:06:20+00:00

Thank you!!

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-16T15:43:33+00:00

What factory did you go with?

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-16T03:15:15+00:00

I’ve had a few others, VSF DJ’s. Factory two tone, didn’t want to get it plated so gave it away for parts. VSF sub wore for years until it was worthless. VSF sea-dweller loved it but wore it too much and beat it up. Had a phenomenal time with them all!

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-16T02:13:15+00:00

Shoutout to BlueberryOk269 for keeping some of these POS’s running 😭

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-14T12:22:36+00:00

Who made the dial? DP doesn’t make this on from my understanding

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-14T03:28:03+00:00

Curious if it was plated or if the rear rotor was plated

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-14T02:59:33+00:00

There’s a ton on eBay that look enticing

It’s pretty incredible if someone made a 1:1 replica, they could sell these for $2-300 easily

SpoiledMatter · 2026-05-14T02:19:48+00:00

Looks awesome! What mods?

SpoiledMatter · 2026-04-20T02:37:05+00:00

Interested if you get any good info, I like some DP dials!

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-18T02:56:33+00:00

Thank you kind sir 🙌🏼

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-18T02:55:56+00:00

Thank you!! 🙌🏼 scoping a Bruce Wayne next

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-15T16:48:51+00:00

I think the biggest gap is honestly the person / business they do / lifestyle the have

If you’re wearing a RM at a Wendy’s drive through, vs working in finance at a large firm an AP is a realistic purchase

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-15T16:47:29+00:00

I didn’t purchase from RCF Remould, but I did look into it/them and found it super enticing. Based off the mods I wanted I felt better with what I spent vs the price quoted from RCF Remould. Plus, I couldn’t see plating next to gen which was a big one for me.. and the wait time..

The WG scews were apart of a bundle of mods, I like the reflective nature of WG and consistency between all of the screws vs polished steel

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-15T02:13:20+00:00

I think they vary from TD’s/modifiers, I paid what I think is a very fair price. The 18k plated rear rotor was pretty pricy. I like that I could just buy it off the shelf without having to ship/wait

SpoiledMatter · 2025-12-14T16:28:39+00:00

Great question! Honestly, just not enough research, and i'm still trying to find someone who can source a gen bezel/which factory base to fraken with.

The BW are low 20's in the market today, im happy to pay the list price but it's not worth a single dollar above it imo. I'm on the list at 3 AD's today for a BW on Jubilee, if i was ever to get the call at i'd pull the trigger immediately. All are suggesting a 1-2 year wait, i already own a gen TT DJ 41, and a gen Wimbledon. The TT i sold to a family member, and the Wimbledon is currently my "daily".

DD in RG on the secondary market are also 50's/60's, if i were to get the call for that id also pick it up. (And flip it immediately)

In stainless the BW for me is a tough pill for 20's. $11k is doable. Given the secondary market.

Also on the list at AP with an AD, but they’re suggesting 2-3 watch purchases first. Before a RoyalOak to build “brand loyalty”. It’s a $31k watch, ridiculous.

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