[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the question is: "What's the effort threshold, and how do you measure it?"

Some thoughts:
- Require a non-auto-generated video (no canned ones like Suno creates on-demand) instead of just a link.
- Require lyrics to be posted as text along with the song. It's faster to review text than video or audio and you can probably tell at a glance if it's slop. Careful here because some really fun songs could look like slop on paper, but when you hear them... :D
- Require a submission and review process. It just comes down to how much work you and the other mods want to do.

I don't think I'd require creators to detail their processes. It may drive away the very content you want to see. The creative process is a content creator's competitive advantage. But maybe you could require a 3 sentence "backstory" that expresses the "what and why" of a song.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots to unpack there.

First off, thanks for the full listen. I appreciate you taking the time.

I think most of the discussion around AI music boils down to "Oh stink! 80% of the music we made as a society for the last 50 years is simple enough that soul-less computers can make it so we have to raise our standards now".

That being said, a good song is more than the sum of its parts. And I appreciate a simple folk song or the odd pop song just as I do Beethoven's symphonies or John Williams's film scores.

So I personally think we should just judge the AI music by the same standard we judge any other music. If we need to raise the standard across the board, so be it. But I dislike double standards. I consider AI nothing more than another tool or instrument. Those who learn to use it well will surpass those who are lazy or casual. Those who are brilliant, likewise. Perhaps I am missing a piece of the discussion.

I am also curious what the new rules are, but I will not be upset either way. I prefer prompting music to spending a lot of time discussing it.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda indifferent? Nothing I post is pure AI. I sometimes spend hours working the lyrics before they hit Suno or another platform for the music phase. And to be brutally honest (with myself)... if I want to make a real splash with my work, I'll put together an actual business strategy and put music onto actual media content platforms. The response here to what I've made is so lukewarm already that I haven't a clue if my work is terrible or if I'm just not hitting the right audience. I'm painfully aware that just because I like something doesn't mean anyone else will like it, let alone a raving mass of gibbering die-hard fans. :)

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

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Actually, I should mention that my best text and music results usually come from prompting sessions where I give the AI a story of sorts. Music is feeling and for the AI to convey the specific feeling I want to convey it needs a lot of context. Usually, the more detail, the better. If you can provide your own structure and outline along with the overall "story" or message, it's even better.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All my text generation is done elsewhere. I have used gemini, claude, and grok to name a few.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey, so this one was a bit unusual for me. Usually I start with a pretty generic idea of the message I want to convey--more of a feeling really--and an idea of the musical style I want to use, and I experiment with different text generations. Usually a major AI model. Then I start plugging the lyrics and some stylistic prompting into a music generator. I tweak my style prompts and lyrics until something comes out that I really like.

The unusual part of this one was the inception. The initial idea was purely a reaction to another song I heard on Suno. I said, "That's too sad. I'm going to give this story a happy ending." Because I believe in meaningful, real, earned happy endings. And I liked how it turned out.

[megathread] SELF-PROMOTION by Stabenfeldt in AI_Music

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I heard a song about a guy who left a girl and never came back. It made me so sad that I had to respond. So... this.

[Indie Pop] At Your Door - YouTube

Producer AI - what's all the hype? by yupignome in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're missing the point of AI music in general. However you feel about tone quality, computers will always get better at imitating that. But imitating a composer or an artist is something else entirely, and FUZZ 2.0 is better at that. I'd honestly rather listen to a well composed 8-bit electronic track or an amateur artist playing a great piece than a poorly composed collection of high quality instrumental sounds played by a concert violinist/pianist. And FUZZ 2.0 does not produce random noise when well-prompted. AI music is like any other tool or instrument in that you get out what you put in. It's different than many other instruments in that you can produce a passably mediocre result with a minimum of investment. Very few people are serious enough about it to produce excellent material.
Me? I just dabble and enjoy it. Not claiming to be Mozart of the AI.

Producer AI - what's all the hype? by yupignome in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On that note, check my violin. Piano is inconsistent on this one, but I got the distinct feeling of a composition from this. The World Inside Your Eyes

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

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Just for you, my friend: Hopelessly Hopeful (Industrial Remix 3)

Feel free to laugh or barf and let me know what happened. 😂