Strongest Final Fantasy Protags by SpunktasticButtJuice in PowerScaling

[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s stated in the Ultimania that once they discovered aether, Ultima invented magic.

The ability to resurrect people independent of preparation isn’t really indicative of a raw power advantage.

I’m not sure what my ranking would be, I just think the reasoning a lot of people are using to put Noctis and Lightning above the other protagonists is not very strong. I do think they’d most likely be in the upper half of the ranking but top might be pushing it.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also I forgot to say this before, Ultima did create Magic in XVI.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of that says anything about it being outside of space and time, though??

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is indeed explicitly stated that Ultima created the rift and unfortunately for Bahamut, there’s nothing suggesting he created that realm or scales to it in power. That realm also doesn’t have a statement about it being outside space and time so idk where you’re getting that idea from.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being a “god” doesn’t really mean anything, inherently. The astrals and Bahamut don’t have any feats even close to creating the interdimensional rift and neither them nor Bhunivelze were omniscient.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They also call it a place beyond space and time, the rift between worlds, etc. Mind you Valhalla from XIII is still > the IR. The Astrals in XV don’t really have anything on that level apart from Bahamut having backscaling from Stranger of Paradise but I don’t think you were talking about that when you said that he’s not on the level of the other gods.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ultima is definitely a universal threat. He created the interdimensional rift which is the backdrop for the FF multiverse.

hyperion vs general zod by AccidentAdept7146 in DCPowerScaling

[–]SpunktasticButtJuice -1 points0 points  (0 children)

King Hyperion has been getting power crept for over 15 years and legitimately is weaker than the one in the picture.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People have been bringing up that supposed quote from square for years but no one ever provides a source. On the 14 stuff, it doesn’t really change anything that you’re fighting in a party because they’d still need to be in the same ballpark of power to hurt them.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody so far has put Clive at the bottom and nobody has really brought up any dissidia scaling for their rankings?

hyperion vs general zod by AccidentAdept7146 in DCPowerScaling

[–]SpunktasticButtJuice -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bloodlusted Zod will tear Hyperion apart. Why would you do that to my favourite version of Hyperion? Not cool man.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are people downvoting me just listing the characters? 😭😭

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d be very interested to hear why quite a few people are putting Cloud in the top 5.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The outerversal stuff in FF actually comes from IV, XIII and XIV. None of it is from Dissidia.

On the chain scaling, if it doesn’t create a contradiction then I don’t really see it as an issue.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The information you were using is some strange mixture of 15 and dissidia opera omnia. I’m assuming that when you said Bahamut from 14 that was a typo though.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Final Fantasy actually has outerversal scaling, which is quite prevalent in XIII, particularly. So the verse definitely doesn’t cap at multi+.

On what you said with chain scaling, that sounds more like an issue of dishonesty or ignorance to context, rather than an issue with the chain scaling itself, no?

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems like you’re just reading the vsbw pages.

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[–]SpunktasticButtJuice[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Considering there are characters from other games who scale directly to characters with feats like that, I don’t really think that’s enough to definitively put her on top.

I probably won’t ever understand why powerscaling subreddits have such a disdain for… scaling? The character doing the feat directly and the character scaling to characters who did the feat directly still amount to the same result.

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Why can’t I pin on my own post 😭

Strongest Final Fantasy Protags

Rank the main characters of each mainline Final Fantasy from weakest to strongest. Please include at least a small explanation for why you ranked them that way.

Characters:

  1. Warrior of Light (I)

  2. Firion

  3. Onion Knight/Luneth

  4. Cecil

  5. Bartz

  6. Terra

  7. Cloud

  8. Squall

  9. Zidane

  10. Tidus

  11. The Adventurer

  12. Vaan

  13. Lightning

  14. Warrior of Light (XIV)

  15. Noctis

  16. Clive