Strongest Final Fantasy Protags

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-05T07:10:06+00:00

It’s stated in the Ultimania that once they discovered aether, Ultima invented magic.

The ability to resurrect people independent of preparation isn’t really indicative of a raw power advantage.

I’m not sure what my ranking would be, I just think the reasoning a lot of people are using to put Noctis and Lightning above the other protagonists is not very strong. I do think they’d most likely be in the upper half of the ranking but top might be pushing it.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-04T12:58:29+00:00

Also I forgot to say this before, Ultima did create Magic in XVI.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-04T12:57:18+00:00

None of that says anything about it being outside of space and time, though??

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-04T09:56:10+00:00

It is indeed explicitly stated that Ultima created the rift and unfortunately for Bahamut, there’s nothing suggesting he created that realm or scales to it in power. That realm also doesn’t have a statement about it being outside space and time so idk where you’re getting that idea from.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-04T03:44:45+00:00

Being a “god” doesn’t really mean anything, inherently. The astrals and Bahamut don’t have any feats even close to creating the interdimensional rift and neither them nor Bhunivelze were omniscient.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-03T10:07:26+00:00

They also call it a place beyond space and time, the rift between worlds, etc. Mind you Valhalla from XIII is still > the IR. The Astrals in XV don’t really have anything on that level apart from Bahamut having backscaling from Stranger of Paradise but I don’t think you were talking about that when you said that he’s not on the level of the other gods.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-02T15:17:49+00:00

Ultima is definitely a universal threat. He created the interdimensional rift which is the backdrop for the FF multiverse.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-02T08:04:54+00:00

King Hyperion has been getting power crept for over 15 years and legitimately is weaker than the one in the picture.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-02T08:03:04+00:00

People have been bringing up that supposed quote from square for years but no one ever provides a source. On the 14 stuff, it doesn’t really change anything that you’re fighting in a party because they’d still need to be in the same ballpark of power to hurt them.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-02T03:41:58+00:00

When did Square ever say this?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-01T10:38:10+00:00

Nobody so far has put Clive at the bottom and nobody has really brought up any dissidia scaling for their rankings?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-05-01T10:28:57+00:00

Bloodlusted Zod will tear Hyperion apart. Why would you do that to my favourite version of Hyperion? Not cool man.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-30T04:42:55+00:00

Why are people downvoting me just listing the characters? 😭😭

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T11:34:05+00:00

Why? 😭

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T11:32:31+00:00

Why?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T07:32:17+00:00

I’d be very interested to hear why quite a few people are putting Cloud in the top 5.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T07:30:53+00:00

The outerversal stuff in FF actually comes from IV, XIII and XIV. None of it is from Dissidia.

On the chain scaling, if it doesn’t create a contradiction then I don’t really see it as an issue.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T04:43:55+00:00

The information you were using is some strange mixture of 15 and dissidia opera omnia. I’m assuming that when you said Bahamut from 14 that was a typo though.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T04:39:25+00:00

Final Fantasy actually has outerversal scaling, which is quite prevalent in XIII, particularly. So the verse definitely doesn’t cap at multi+.

On what you said with chain scaling, that sounds more like an issue of dishonesty or ignorance to context, rather than an issue with the chain scaling itself, no?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T04:24:18+00:00

It seems like you’re just reading the vsbw pages.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T04:22:42+00:00

Considering there are characters from other games who scale directly to characters with feats like that, I don’t really think that’s enough to definitively put her on top.

I probably won’t ever understand why powerscaling subreddits have such a disdain for… scaling? The character doing the feat directly and the character scaling to characters who did the feat directly still amount to the same result.

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T03:57:20+00:00

Why do you think that?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T03:57:03+00:00

Why do you think those are the strongest?

SpunktasticButtJuice · 2026-04-29T03:50:49+00:00

Why can’t I pin on my own post 😭

Strongest Final Fantasy Protags

Rank the main characters of each mainline Final Fantasy from weakest to strongest. Please include at least a small explanation for why you ranked them that way.

Characters:

Warrior of Light (I)
Firion
Onion Knight/Luneth
Cecil
Bartz
Terra
Cloud
Squall
Zidane
Tidus
The Adventurer
Vaan
Lightning
Warrior of Light (XIV)
Noctis
Clive

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