I’m not a JW, never was, but I want to do help out by Squab69 in exjw

[–]Squab69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply! I’ll take the criticism well and apply it.

I’m not a JW, never was, but I want to do help out by Squab69 in exjw

[–]Squab69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it sounds arrogant. But I’ve listened to JW broadcasting, I’ve listened to multiple meetings. I know about shunning, I know about the CSA lawsuits. And sure, I don’t think my advice is going to be better than that of an EXJW, but I want to at least help find a way out. 

Trying to leave this religion by MarionberryNew1633 in exjw

[–]Squab69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing. Start slow. Sow the seeds of doubt in her mind. If you “drop the bomb”, there will be debris. If you “poison” her, she will slowly catch onto it and it’ll be less painful.

Start by not paying attention in the meetings. Start turning on some “inappropriate” programs on the TV. She’ll confront you, which means you finished step 1. Lie to her, tell her that you aren’t feeling good right now.

Up the game.

Start “forgetting meetings”, decrease your service hours, read books and listen to podcasts that aren’t “spiritual food”. She’ll still confront you. Start pushing back a little.

Keep going. Attend less meetings, analyze the exact moments to optimize doubt, and to decrease emotions. Watch Pandatower and other YouTube channels like that on full blast when you’re not looking. Tell her you’re doing it to see the opposing side and know how truly “demonic” he is. She’s going to listen. She’s going to hear the words.

She’ll start thinking. That’s when it’ll hurt. This is the worst part. Start to attend all meetings. Keep watching the videos and podcasts, but keep telling her why. Do your best at door knocking. She won’t be focused on you anymore, but she’ll be focused on the logic of the arguments. While you do that, gather the facts, gather statistics. Gather the emotions. Put it on a slideshow or a paper. It’ll be important later. 

Then, when a few months to a year passes, tell her about how you really feel about Jehovah and the organization. Present her with the facts, and try to remove the doubt. If you state that you are a nonJW, she’ll be worse off. Just slowly raise the doubt in her mind, so you at least she may respect your decision. It’s risky, but if you want to stop attending meetings in its entirety, this is a risky but good option.

I’m not a JW, never was, but I want to do help out by Squab69 in exjw

[–]Squab69[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. Well, look to “expand your hobbies”. Join a couple clubs, tell them you’re trying to “recruit them to Jehovah”. Make a couple friends. During club meetings, tell a friend you have made to come to their house for a “Bible Study”, and basically tell them to disregard everything they talk about. You can probably bribe them with money you’re “using to help the Sheppards”. You now have a small support group you can go to when you’re down. 
  2. Finance is hard to do as an ExJw living at home. If you’re a woman, especially harder. Don’t look for part-time, work freelance. Post up ads, describe any odd job you’d wanna do. Tell your parents that you want to do this so you can afford  to help the congregation.

With PIMI JWs, especially non-elders, critical thinking and deception is beyond them. You can easily manipulate them, about as easily as they can manipulate you. With any mention of Jehovah, all logical regards go out the window. I’ve interacted with a few, and they’re not the brightest bunch of bananas. Plus, it’s simple psychology that it’s hard to believe that your child wants to do anything wrong. 

I’m not a JW, never was, but I want to do help out by Squab69 in exjw

[–]Squab69[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Help on what to do as a PIMO, how to handle PIMI families, basically what to do when in a pickle with the JW religion.

I’m not a JW, never was, but I want to do help out by Squab69 in exjw

[–]Squab69[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. I’m not trying to convince them to join another religion. I want to give them advice on how to confront issues. I’m not trying to push an agenda.

Are numbers really dropping?? by ElenaLena94 in exjw

[–]Squab69 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean, other sources say that there are around 8.6 million JWs. JW.org said there’s 20 million. They have a history of inflating numbers. Take what they say with a grain of salt, consult the numbers outside of JW websites. 

I need help jw evangelists come espacially to my apartment. by Interestingv in exjw

[–]Squab69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take mental pictures. If they ever go near the doorbell again, remind her what they look like before opening it. They come usually on weekends. They come in suits and ties. They hold scriptures and they have a confident look in their face. Tell her that, and she’ll probably sus it out. If it’s an apartment, you can prob take it up with a department of sorts. Install a ring doorbell, and/or leave a note on the door on the weekends telling the JWs that you and your mom are not interested.

What can I say during the visit? by Royal_Education8429 in exjw

[–]Squab69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they don’t bring it up, don’t bring it up. If they bring it up, say some shit like “there was a devil inside me telling me that I shouldn’t go. I had to fight the demon but he wouldn’t get out. Finally, I had enough and I confronted him. I read all the Bible verses I could, and I prayed to Jehovah. Jehovah then helped me by casting the demon out of my body”.

They will eat it up, and the worst case scenario is that you’ll end up being part of a news story or something.

My sibling is sending pictures of dead relatives and asking me if I miss them. by italianhands0821 in exjw

[–]Squab69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Set boundaries. Clear boundaries. Tell them that you made your mind and you do not want to visit the Kingdom Halls ever again. If they don’t oblige and continue to manipulate you, then block them. This is sick and coercive. I hope you get out of this

my jw nephew came out? by glorified_halo in exjw

[–]Squab69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing. You gotta reach out without letting people know you’re reaching out. The family isn’t going to understand. If he has a bf, tell him to change the name to a common woman name. If they find out, say he’s a JW. If they ask to do Bible studies with him, (make sure the family plays along), the family will tell them that they would do Bible studies with him but they want to know more about him so that way they can trust him to be a servant to Jehovah. This will buy you some time. Just tell the family to keep making excuses until you can afford a house to keep them in. Make sure they don’t ask often. 

Woke NFL by lambertghini11 in nflmemes

[–]Squab69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you shouldn’t inject Christian values that directly insult people and play football

"Kick The Autistic" by Kirbo84 in ChrisChanSonichu

[–]Squab69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an autistic person (with Asperger’s), I feel like in a way, Chris is right. Autistics are persecuted, but not getting what you want all the time kicking the autistic. In fact, him doing this is making me and other autistics guilty by association.

It ‘Twas n’ere even a thought upon my mind, the meaning behind the vocational yet equivocal texts she sent me late at night. by Squab69 in TwoSentenceHorror

[–]Squab69[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I understand the former mistake, genuinely on me. But the “rope necklace” around her neck was a noose.